ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[BarraMarra]

2 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

I'm also baffled by these points that you've raised.

 

I'm always open for a constructive discussion to debunk all of them!

How can you react to powered hang gliders coming over a fence? or bulldozers smashing through a fence ?

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, coolcarer said:

I know it’s not easy after your constant denials of being antisemitic only then to be caught spreading antisemitic conspiracy website links.

 

How about one of their other articles where they claim US special forces have been killed in Gaza?

Not easy? 

I'm most certainly not antisemitic, I even say a Jewish prayer befits I get out of bed each day. 

I, and other members have asked if you can post one sentence from the said link that is antisemitic, and we are still waiting. 

If you can't, then please apologise, you can't go throwing accusations like that just because you don't like what is said. 

[transam]

Just now, Thorgal said:

 

Again, please, don't ask me any more questions in the future, as my answers would be labelled as deflecting or off topic...

 

Case closed...

You're off then, keep your head down over there.......................

[BarraMarra]

1 minute ago, Thorgal said:

 

Again, please, don't ask me any more questions in the future, as my answers would be labelled as deflecting or off topic...

 

Case closed...

Im happy that you are now my first member to be put on my ignore list. Iv'e had enough of your B/S.

[Neeranam]

53 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Here it is :

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/?do=findComment&comment=18470865

 

Please, don't ask me any more questions in the future especially to me, as my answers would be labelled as deflecting or off topic...

 

😂😂😂😅🤣🤣🤣

[placeholder]

58 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Were not here discussing Amnesty International placeholder so move on to the Topic.

The topic is israel is at war. A claim was made by Amnesty International that phosphorous bombs were used in this war. The legitimacy of the claims from Amnesty international was questioned by Morch. So if you got a problem, it's with him. Or, you can report this to the moderators. 

[Neeranam]

5 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Again, please, don't ask me any more questions in the future, as my answers would be labelled as deflecting or off topic...

 

Case closed...

Don't let the rude, abusive fundamentalists stop you from posting, you add a lot to this thread. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

28 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I'm most certainly not antisemitic, I even say a Jewish prayer befits I get out of bed each day.

 

Seriously, how many times are you going to tell everyone this; and you forgot to mention your Rabbit friend this time 😬

Edited November 4, 2023 by Eloquent pilgrim

[owl sees all]

23 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

I'm also baffled by these points that you've raised.

 

I'm always open for a constructive discussion to debunk all of them!

Could we then take the first of those points.

 

The IDF's terribly slow response to the 'break out'? How could it happen? Supposedly the intelligence service security was so tight that even a cat getting close to a wall would set off a alarm. And that para-gliding?! Did they not practice beforehand? Unnoticed! Did the Egyptians not whisper that something was afoot? Why the 5/6 hour delay. Did someone have a word?

 

Lets get to it Sir.

[transam]

1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

Could we then take the first of those points.

 

The IDF's terribly slow response to the 'break out'? How could it happen? Supposedly the intelligence service security was so tight that even a cat getting close to a wall would set off a alarm. And that para-gliding?! Did they not practice beforehand? Unnoticed! Did the Egyptians not whisper that something was afoot? Why the 5/6 hour delay. Did someone have a word?

 

Lets get to it Sir.

Think we've been there a couple of weeks back....🙄

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Seriously, how many times are you going to tell everyone this; and you forgot to mention your Rabbit friend this time 😬

Yes it's like a man that drinks a couple of bottles of yadong every day repeating himself 'I'm not an alcoholic ya know, am not, hic'.

[coolcarer]

40 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Not easy? 

I'm most certainly not antisemitic, I even say a Jewish prayer befits I get out of bed each day. 

I, and other members have asked if you can post one sentence from the said link that is antisemitic, and we are still waiting. 

If you can't, then please apologise, you can't go throwing accusations like that just because you don't like what is said. 

You protest too much Scotty, more prayers are needed. 100 Hail Marys before bed for you. 

[Morch]

43 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

How can you react to powered hang gliders coming over a fence? or bulldozers smashing through a fence ?

 

How do you mean?

Do you somehow imagine these are unstoppable?

 

[Morch]

19 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Could we then take the first of those points.

 

The IDF's terribly slow response to the 'break out'? How could it happen? Supposedly the intelligence service security was so tight that even a cat getting close to a wall would set off a alarm. And that para-gliding?! Did they not practice beforehand? Unnoticed! Did the Egyptians not whisper that something was afoot? Why the 5/6 hour delay. Did someone have a word?

 

Lets get to it Sir.

 

This was discussed much earlier in the topic, and in detail.

You've even participated in part of that.

 

Now you come back with you insinuations, and pretense this wasn't discussed.

Get under your bridge.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, steevjee said:

Wise up Freddie, The Palestinians are not necessarily HAMAS, in fact the vast majority are not, so dont refer to all Palestinians as the terrorist Hamas group even if you are pro "The Butcher of Jerusalem" and his genocide plan

 

   I didn't refer to ALL Palestinians as Hamas though , and my name isn't Freddie either and it was the Palestinians  who had the genocide plan 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

This was discussed much earlier in the topic, and in detail.

You've even participated in part of that.

 

Now you come back with you insinuations, and pretense this wasn't discussed.

Get under your bridge.

 

Indeed; the Bridge of Sighs

[Wobblybob]

Just now, placeholder said:

Well, if you're expecting me to follow you devotedly, you're going to disappointed. And once again, you engage in these invidious generalities which are basically personal attacks that would take a huge amount of time to refute. So, I'm going to go on commenting on what I see that you've written without backtracking to read all that you've written. 

Are you mojo's replacement? 🥱

[Thorgal]

3 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Could we then take the first of those points.

 

The IDF's terribly slow response to the 'break out'? How could it happen? Supposedly the intelligence service security was so tight that even a cat getting close to a wall would set off a alarm. And that para-gliding?! Did they not practice beforehand? Unnoticed! Did the Egyptians not whisper that something was afoot? Why the 5/6 hour delay. Did someone have a word?

 

Lets get to it Sir.

 

For sure, Mister OSA

 

I've seen that day within the first 2 hours of the attack the first clips of the attacks on Telegram apps.

The Merkava tank blown and the 3 guys taken out of the tank.

The 2 IDF soldiers killed just outside the wall.

Killing of Hamas frogmen on speedboats and/or jet ski's by the Israeli navy : I think they were the only branch in the army that did their job as expected : eliminate any threat immediately without any delay.

 

IAF F-16's on low loader trucks taken away in emergency out of the region.

 

This separation wall is reinforced concrete of 6 meters high and 30 meters deep.

These walls have sensors an can provide signals to the operation center in case of intrusion. All personnel of these operation centers were (mostly) killed or taken as hostages.

Some 15 penetrations were made into the wall. None of these explosions created an alarm signal to the operators.

 

We have to believe that the Shabak (Shin Bet) domestic intelligence service didn't receive any tip from the whole preparation of the attack + any logistic information from weapons and/or equipment (tunnel equipment) and training (parachute glider etc...)

 

I didn't see within the first 3 hours :

- backup of Apache helicopters ; only after 4 hours with special forces

- backup of mechanized brigades : no extra tanks from outside conquered perimeter

 

Bonus :

 

- 01/09/2023 Israeli government confiscates all handguns from security people in the Gaza belt. Security people was against this decision, but they had to deliver their hand weapons.

 

- 10/09/2023 : Israeli municipalities received reports that there were predicted possible agitations with Palestinians during the coming Jewish holidays. They've asked for advice for the Gaza community belt to the IDF, but IDF replied that there was nothing to worry.

 

- 29/09/2023 : Egyptian intelligence director phoned personally to Netanyahu on +/- 29th of September that they suspected a near future large scale operation.

 

Summary : some 2.000 to 5.000 Hamas militia went within 6 hours with only AK47's, Para-gliders, pick-up trucks, motorcycles, handguns, RPG's, no tank  to kill 1.400 civilians and bring back some 230 hostages.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Not easy? 

I'm most certainly not antisemitic, I even say a Jewish prayer befits I get out of bed each day. 

I, and other members have asked if you can post one sentence from the said link that is antisemitic, and we are still waiting. 

If you can't, then please apologise, you can't go throwing accusations like that just because you don't like what is said. 

 

   In the said link , it refers to Israeli as an occupying  force, thus it doesn't accept Israel's right to exist and that is regarded as being anti sematic 

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

For sure, Mister OSA

 

I've seen that day within the first 2 hours of the attack the first clips of the attacks on Telegram apps.

The Merkava tank blown and the 3 guys taken out of the tank.

The 2 IDF soldiers killed just outside the wall.

Killing of Hamas frogmen on speedboats and/or jet ski's by the Israeli navy : I think they were the only branch in the army that did their job as expected : eliminate any threat immediately without any delay.

 

IAF F-16's on low loader trucks taken away in emergency out of the region.

 

This separation wall is reinforced concrete of 6 meters high and 30 meters deep.

These walls have sensors an can provide signals to the operation center in case of intrusion. All personnel of these operation centers were (mostly) killed or taken as hostages.

Some 15 penetrations were made into the wall. None of these explosions created an alarm signal to the operators.

 

We have to believe that the Shabak (Shin Bet) domestic intelligence service didn't receive any tip from the whole preparation of the attack + any logistic information from weapons and/or equipment (tunnel equipment) and training (parachute glider etc...)

 

I didn't see within the first 3 hours :

- backup of Apache helicopters ; only after 4 hours with special forces

- backup of mechanized brigades : no extra tanks from outside conquered perimeter

 

Bonus :

 

- 01/09/2023 Israeli government confiscates all handguns from security people in the Gaza belt. Security people was against this decision, but they had to deliver their hand weapons.

 

- 10/09/2023 : Israeli municipalities received reports that there were predicted possible agitations with Palestinians during the coming Jewish holidays. They've asked for advice for the Gaza community belt to the IDF, but IDF replied that there was nothing to worry.

 

- 29/09/2023 : Egyptian intelligence director phoned personally to Netanyahu on +/- 29th of September that they suspected a near future large scale operation.

 

Summary : some 2.000 to 5.000 Hamas militia went within 6 hours with only AK47's, Para-gliders, pick-up trucks, motorcycles, handguns, RPG's, no tank  to kill 1.400 civilians and bring back some 230 hostages.

Wow, there's more to this Oct 7 thing than meets the eye! 

[transam]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Whatever bug it is you're using to track me, get yourself another. This one's defective.

Same ol', same ol'.....You've been "Tango'd" twice today, time for you to have a rethink.. 😬

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Wow, there's more to this Oct 7 thing than meets the eye! 

Oh, no............😬

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Wow, there's more to this Oct 7 thing than meets the eye! 

Thorgal and Neeranam specialist pork family butchers, this weeks offer is quality spam.

 

When you can't do facts what's left but conspiracy, laughable, gullible but not discussable.

[coolcarer]

15 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Wow, there's more to this Oct 7 thing than meets the eye! 

Send it to that fake website of yours, they’re looking for contributions from dodgy sources😅

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, coolcarer said:

Send it to that fake website of yours, they’re looking for contributions from dodgy sources😅

Still waiting for you to say why it is antisemitic. Still reading it?

[Thorgal]

11 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Thorgal and Neeranam specialist pork family butchers, this weeks offer is quality spam.

 

When you can't do facts what's left but conspiracy, laughable, gullible but not discussable.

 

1. Some facts have been made official, but taken back because of insufficient data at the moment of making it public.

example : IDF tweet of the hospital bombing

 

2. More details are available now and have been checked and commented by independent experts or the State representatives.

 

The question came from Mr. Owl Sees All, and his question is OK for me.

 

There's no suggestion of a conspiracy or inside job.

 

But if there was indeed an inside job then it's very bad.

If there wasn't an inside job then it's even worse...

 

 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Thorgal

[Neeranam]

Just now, Thorgal said:

There's no suggestion of a conspiracy or inside job.

 

But if there was indeed an inside job then it's very bad.

If there was an inside job then it's even worse...

 

What have Israel got to gain, apart from land? 

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Thorgal said:

 

1. Some facts have been made official, but taken back because of insufficient data at the moment of making it public.

example : IDF tweet of the hospital bombing

 

2. More details are available now and have been checked and commented by independent experts or the State representatives.

 

The question came from Mr. Owl Sees All, and his question is OK for me.

 

There's no suggestion of a conspiracy or inside job.

 

But if there was indeed an inside job then it's very bad.

If there was an inside job then it's even worse...

 

 

Can you be less opaque and tell us these facts, not into dodgy links and conspiracy theories though.

[transam]

Just now, Neeranam said:

What have Israel got to gain, apart from land? 

I can't believe you wrote that..................😧

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Still waiting for you to say why it is antisemitic. Still reading it?

Still in the kindergarten cover your ears to the truth then.

 

Yea I was reading some more actually, the sick fake news they spread, US special forces being killed in Gaza last few days, the SAS telling media to keep quite about their presence there. No children or babies killed by Hamas on the 7th Oct. Has your rabbi friend read it yet?