ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Jeff the Chef]

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Hundreds and hundreds of them. War crimes.

 

Congrats, you may be salvageable for humanity.

How magnanimous of you, I'll treasure that remark.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The Qassam rocket is a simple, steel artillery rocket developed and deployed by the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military arm of Hamas. These rockets cannot be fired to target specific military objectives in or near civilian areas, and are "indiscriminate when used against targets in population centers". Wikipedia
Length: Qassam 1: 180 cm; Qassam 2: 180 cm; Qassam 3: 220 cm; Qassam 4: 244 cm
Operational range: Qassam 1: 5 km; Qassam 2:12 km; Qassam 3: 16 km
Produced: 2001–current
Propellant: Solid fuel (sugar and potassium nitrate mix)
Used by: Palestinian militants
Warhead: Explosive material with metal bearing balls; standard explosive material

 

Palestinian rocket arsenal is more extensive than that:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_arsenal

 

Regardless, the fuel issue is, I think, less about the rocket fuel, and more about electricity - which is required for launching them. Also used to ventilate underground facilities, run communications, vehicles and so on.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Thorgal said:

 

Stripped naked, tortured: Deported Gazans accuse Israeli troops of abuses • FRANCE 24 English

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qlOAok1v8Y&t=2s

 

War news | Workers from Gaza detained in Israel allege abuse

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN8iM21MKpY

 

 

Allegations are not facts.

Israel already acknowledged that some violations did happen, and are being investigated (that included in the link above).

i don't know why you'd expect them to be treated super nicely right after the 7/10 attack.

[Yagoda]

8 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

How magnanimous of you, I'll treasure that remark.

You should. Im a reasonable, normal human being despite my fondness for weed and Thai girls. The lowest form of life in this world is a medieval minded barbaric terrorist babykilling anti semite and their supporters and apologists and the fact that you just might be salvageable is great. You might be fit for the company of us normal folks if you work on it. Too bad your pal @Thorgal is unfixeable.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Thorgal said:

 

This has been debunked earlier :

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/?do=findComment&comment=18472223

 

 

No, that was just you posting stuff.

[rabas]

5 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Again war propaganda from :

 

Electrical box has 3 phase inverter motor for an elevator motor. This is a typical elevator electrical box.

 

The elevator shaft has rails (guides) and a flat cable. The shaft has casted columns and the interior has been painted.

 

Motorcycle with a scratch has been used on 7th of October? This can't be serious.

 

Add electricity and lifts to the long list of things you have no idea about. (like your schedule 40 pipes "are good for rockets").  You just copycat whatever fits your agenda.

 

Lifting mechanism or not, that shaft is not part of the hospitals normal operation. It's a makeshift arrangement, probably for weapons and other objects. I've worked on lifts, that is a tiny inverter. My condo unit has three phase power. No one that makes a legal, inspectable lift for public use leaves wires and cables dangling around like that, etc.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

9 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Add electricity and lifts to the long list of things you have no idea about. (like your schedule 40 pipes "are good for rockets").  You just copycat whatever fits your agenda.

 

Lifting mechanism or not, that shaft is not part of the hospitals normal operation. It's a makeshift arrangement, probably for weapons and other objects. I've worked on lifts, that is a tiny inverter. My condo unit has three phase power. No one that makes a legal, inspectable lift for public use leaves wires and cables dangling around like that, etc.

 

His specialised field is troll engineering, not civil engineering ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  

[Thorgal]

9 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Add electricity and lifts to the long list of things you have no idea about. (like your schedule 40 pipes "are good for rockets").  You just copycat whatever fits your agenda.

 

Lifting mechanism or not, that shaft is not part of the hospitals normal operation. It's a makeshift arrangement, probably for weapons and other objects. I've worked on lifts, that is a tiny inverter. My condo unit has three phase power. No one that makes a legal, inspectable lift for public use leaves wires and cables dangling around like that, etc.

 

The SH40 pipes (standard pipe schedule) for manufacturing of rockets was in reply of another poster that supposed that Hamas used its own underground water piping system to make/fabricate rockets and this resulted that they've created areas within Gaza without water supply for its own population. Nothing strange to use SH40 underground pipes for water pressure service of max. 10 Bar while some assumed you could use these for rockets.

 

Hamas uses for military purposes round tunnel openings and the tunnel to surface shaft is made of bricks. No casted concrete RC columns. This shaft in the footage is part of the hospital.

 

Cables and wires dangling like that is very common if you work in poor countries and/or regions that are subjected to blockades.

 

Many people like me can see that this is not a person ladder. It's a cables ladder/tray inside the shaft. It's not made to walk on it like a ladder.

 

My list of debunking war propaganda starts to expand in such way that my basic E&M engineering knowledge will be questioned in response. This can be double checked with what other people post with the same logic/criticism as me on other social media.

[CatCage]

1 hour ago, Thorgal said:

 

Again war propaganda from :

 

Electrical box has 3 phase inverter motor for an elevator motor. This is a typical elevator electrical box.

 

The elevator shaft has rails (guides) and a flat cable. The shaft has casted columns and the interior has been painted.

 

Motorcycle with a scratch has been used on 7th of October? This can't be serious.

 

Why is it anything you post is 100% Kosher but anything anyone else puits up it is made up rubbish? 

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, CatCage said:

 

Why is it anything you post is 100% Kosher but anything anyone else puits up it is made up rubbish? 

Hes from the Leuchter/Zundel school of Engineering. Bet some of these guys knows right off the top of their heads who those dudes are.

[Thorgal]

Just now, CatCage said:

 

Why is it anything you post is 100% Kosher but anything anyone else puits up it is made up rubbish? 

 

Because I want cease fire and peace for both sides.

It's as well kosher as hallal...

[Thorgal]

45 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Allegations are not facts.

Israel already acknowledged that some violations did happen, and are being investigated (that included in the link above).

i don't know why you'd expect them to be treated super nicely right after the 7/10 attack.

 

Most of the people in the links are not Hamas militants.

 

They are temporary workers from Gaza that had permission to work in Occupied West Bank and Israel. They didn't participated in the 7th of October attacks. It's collective punishment. The footage I saw that I can't post here due to forum rules are some of these prisoners naked and subjected to perversity of some soldiers.

 

And no, I don't expect these non combatant hostages to be treated that way as per international law.

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/geneva-convention-relative-treatment-prisoners-war#:~:text=Prisoners of war must at,breach of the present Convention.

 

Quote from source :

 

Article 13

Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated. Any unlawful act or omission by the Detaining Power causing death or seriously endangering the health of a prisoner of war in its custody is prohibited, and will be regarded as a serious breach of the present Convention. 

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

Stripped naked, tortured: Deported Gazans accuse Israeli troops of abuses • FRANCE 24 English

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qlOAok1v8Y&t=2s

 

War news | Workers from Gaza detained in Israel allege abuse

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN8iM21MKpY

 

Wow, the whole world is waking up to the atrocities of the IDF, except a few fundamentalist on this thread who strangely refuse to say anything negative about them and want them to eradicate those pesky Palestinians. 

[coolcarer]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Wow, the whole world is waking up to the atrocities of the IDF, except a few fundamentalist on this thread who strangely refuse to say anything negative about them and want them to eradicate those pesky Palestinians. 

The whole world woke up on the 7th Oct to the atrocities Hamas carried out. Those pesky Hamas don’t want peace until Israel is wiped off the face of the earth. You forgot that Scotty.

[CatCage]

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Wow, the whole world is waking up to the atrocities of the IDF, except a few fundamentalist on this thread who strangely refuse to say anything negative about them and want them to eradicate those pesky Palestinians. 

 

Those pesky Palestinians as you put it are homicidal murders helbent on killing everyone that does not agree with their ideology, have you forgoten they attacked and killed peacfull settlers and young kids enjoying a music festival and are now denying IDF aid and fuel to the hospitals. 

 

With respect Mr Neeranham you need to get your head out of the sand

[Eloquent pilgrim]

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Wow, the whole world is waking up to the atrocities of the IDF, except a few fundamentalist on this thread who strangely refuse to say anything negative about them and want them to eradicate those pesky Palestinians. 

 

Ha ha ……… antisemite calls non antisemites fundamentalists, with a breathtaking irony that he probably doesn’t even understand ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Bkk Brian]

What could these Hamas terrorists possibly be doing with an RPG at the Quds Hospital?

 

 

[Thorgal]

16 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

More conspiracy nonsense on what MSM can or cannot post 

 

My quote :

"More disturbing : what they did to the Palestinian workers that worked in Israel and could not come back into Gaza + what has been done with the bodies of the dead Hamas fighters. MSM can't post this."

 

Can I post this or not ? (from YT)

 

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, Thorgal said:

 

My quote :

"More disturbing : what they did to the Palestinian workers that worked in Israel and could not come back into Gaza + what has been done with the bodies of the dead Hamas fighters. MSM can't post this."

 

Can I post this or not ? (from YT)

 

I suggest you ask a moderator, not a wannabe. 

[Thorgal]

1 hour ago, proton said:

I expect the resident apologists will say this is all fake IDF propaganda 

 

 

 

4 machine guns on the floor from 21 killed Hamas soldiers? 

 

[Neeranam]

16 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

The whole world woke up on the 7th Oct to the atrocities Hamas carried out. Those pesky Hamas don’t want peace until Israel is wiped off the face of the earth. You forgot that Scotty.

Hank, why call me Scotty? 

 

Hamas are terrorists, mostly. The babies dying every 10 minutes are not. 

[rabas]

27 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

The SH40 pipes (standard pipe schedule) for manufacturing of rockets was in reply of another poster that supposed that Hamas used its own underground water piping system to make/fabricate rockets and this resulted that they've created areas within Gaza without water supply for its own population. Nothing strange to use SH40 underground pipes for water pressure service of max. 10 Bar while some assumed you could use these for rockets.

 

Hamas uses for military purposes round tunnel openings and the tunnel to surface shaft is made of bricks. No casted concrete RC columns. This shaft in the footage is part of the hospital.

 

Cables and wires dangling like that is very common if you work in poor countries and/or regions that are subjected to blockades.

 

Many people like me can see that this is not a person ladder. It's a cables ladder/tray inside the shaft. It's not made to walk on it like a ladder.

 

My list of debunking war propaganda starts to expand in such way that my basic E&M engineering knowledge will be questioned in response. This can be double checked with what other people post with the same logic/criticism as me on other social media.

 

So... why are none of the cables in your "cable tray"?

 

Anyway, you allege the hospital, not Hamas, uses the shaft and underground complex to store their weapons and explosives? You couldn't make Swiss cheese out of your logic. 

[Jeff the Chef]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

You should. Im a reasonable, normal human being despite my fondness for weed and Thai girls. The lowest form of life in this world is a medieval minded barbaric terrorist babykilling anti semite and their supporters and apologists and the fact that you just might be salvageable is great. You might be fit for the company of us normal folks if you work on it. Too bad your pal @Thorgal is unfixeable.

I like you have a fondness for weed and Thai women, you can have the girls.

I have been branded an antisemite because I totally disagree with the right-wing agenda of Zionists, I have on numerous occasions condemned the atrocities of both Hamas and the IDF. 

As for whether I might be fit for the company of normal folk, if you and your ilk are normal folk I'll pass on that, I have the ability to pick my own friends. 

I have never met Thorgal apart from reading his/her posts on here, I do however agree with the majority of his/her posts.

[Morch]

24 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Most of the people in the links are not Hamas militants.

 

They are temporary workers from Gaza that had permission to work in Occupied West Bank and Israel. They didn't participated in the 7th of October attacks. It's collective punishment. The footage I saw that I can't post here due to forum rules are some of these prisoners naked and subjected to perversity of some soldiers.

 

And no, I don't expect these non combatant hostages to be treated that way as per international law.

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/geneva-convention-relative-treatment-prisoners-war#:~:text=Prisoners of war must at,breach of the present Convention.

 

Quote from source :

 

Article 13

Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated. Any unlawful act or omission by the Detaining Power causing death or seriously endangering the health of a prisoner of war in its custody is prohibited, and will be regarded as a serious breach of the present Convention. 

 

Nobody said they were Hamas, although there were links provided about Hamas using Palestinian workers in Israel to get intel. They are enemy citizens in a time of war, and many of them tried to slip away, breaking the terms of their employment permits. That alone would allow their arrest, by the way.

 

I don't give a hoot about your repeated claims to have seen things. We discuss what can be discussed here, not allegations raised by yourself.

 

As for the rest of your nonsense - was any of the killed? and other than claims - was anyone actually tortured, health seriously endangered and so on? There were cases of abuse - acknowledged and under investigation.

 

You grasping at straws.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Hank, why call me Scotty? 

 

Hamas are terrorists, mostly. The babies dying every 10 minutes are not. 

 

    You falsely accused Israel of making false claims about 40 dead babies and now you are making false claims about dead babies . 

   (The report was about children and you changed children to babies)

You make false claims about dead Palestinian babies whilst accusing Israel of making false claims about dead Israeli babies

 

[Morch]

29 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Wow, the whole world is waking up to the atrocities of the IDF, except a few fundamentalist on this thread who strangely refuse to say anything negative about them and want them to eradicate those pesky Palestinians. 

 

Maybe in your alternative reality. There were links put up just yesterday for EU condemnation of the Hamas, for example.

Also, I don't think you know what 'fundamentalist' means.

The 'eradicate' bit is, again, your own nonsense.

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I like you have a fondness for weed and Thai women, you can have the girls.

I have been branded an antisemite because I totally disagree with the right-wing agenda of Zionists, I have on numerous occasions condemned the atrocities of both Hamas and the IDF. 

As for whether I might be fit for the company of normal folk, if you and your ilk are normal folk I'll pass on that, I have the ability to pick my own friends. 

I have never met Thorgal apart from reading his/her posts on here, I do however agree with the majority of his/her posts.

You are not alone mate. I was called antisemite too, despite studying the Tanakh! 

[Yellowtail]

13 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

I explained that you can define immediately at least 1.000.000 innocent non combatant Palestinians in Gaza that can/could be killed through Israeli disproportionated bombing in the Gaza Strip.

 

People here on AN didn't like that fact and distorted my post to say that 1.000.000 innocent Palestinians died already...

 

This has been explained many times and it's part of the groups game to target an individual.

You're lying again. 

 

[coolcarer]

9 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Hank, why call me Scotty? 

 

Hamas are terrorists, mostly. The babies dying every 10 minutes are not. 

We know Hamas are terrorists that’s not what I asked. Where did you dream up that babies are dying every ten minutes scotty. (Sure by all means refer to me as hank)

[Morch]

15 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Nonsense. So pro-Israeli claims don't need links?

The innocent Gazans did not attack anyone. 

Did you know over 4000 kids have been butchered by the IDF? 

 

Butchered is what Hamas did.

There, now you know the difference.