ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[RanongCat]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

I think that you are cherry picking and deflecting.

 

There were atrocities, murders and whatnot carried out by Arabs vs Jews well before 1947. You choose and arbitrary point to start your 'argument'. Both sides have their long lists of bad things the other side did unto them.

 

If you feel that the Hamas attack was 'justified' you're pretty much out there.

Yet again you  join the ranks of those that are incapable of differentiating  the  genuine aspects of debate without  resorting eventually to accusation of  partisan allegiance not compatible with  your own  despite very deliberate attempts to present  balanced opinion but always with  the taint of  bias .

My  allegiance is towards humanitarian outcome which unfortunately is often at odds with the predominant infliction of aggressive superior power. Too often that does not align with geopolitical agenda  regardless of  humanitarian concern.

I am surprised  you  did not/have not resorted to the defeatist retort  of " Whataboutism  etc" that so often gets inserted by some ignorants on many  topics .

So in granting that you are not an ignorant elucidate the forum community  on the gambit of atrocities "the other side " did  to each other prior to the infliction of the Israeli Nation State" .

Be sure to  include major community insults  rather than individual crimes in that  if  you can.

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

52 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Guess who own's the Metro??? 🤣🤣🤣

Dear Jeff the Chef, unlike yourself, I do not find the need for guesswork, or deflecting from information on the basis of where it was published; this recording is widely available on many news outlets, although I’m sure you won’t bother to listen to it because it is exactly what you do not want to be true.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

Yet again you  join the ranks of those that are incapable of differentiating  the  genuine aspects of debate without  resorting eventually to accusation of  partisan allegiance not compatible with  your own  despite very deliberate attempts to present  balanced opinion but always with  the taint of  bias .

My  allegiance is towards humanitarian outcome which unfortunately is often at odds with the predominant infliction of aggressive superior power. Too often that does not align with geopolitical agenda  regardless of  humanitarian concern.

I am surprised  you  did not/have not resorted to the defeatist retort  of " Whataboutism  etc" that so often gets inserted by some ignorants on many  topics .

So in granting that you are not an ignorant elucidate the forum community  on the gambit of atrocities "the other side " did  to each other prior to the infliction of the Israeli Nation State" .

Be sure to  include major community insults  rather than individual crimes in that  if  you can.

 

Yep, you're cornered...................🤭

[metisdead]

Some troll posts contravening our Community Standards have been removed.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

8 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

So in granting that you are not an ignorant elucidate the forum community  on the gambit of atrocities "the other side " did  to each other prior to the infliction of the Israeli Nation State" .

Be sure to  include major community insults  rather than individual crimes in that  if  you can.

What on earth are you waffling on about  ? What in heavens name is a "ignorant elucidate"  

[RanongCat]

1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

What on earth are you waffling on about  ? What in heavens name is a "ignorant elucidate"  

If  you  need to correct my grammar to  extract meaning then indeed  you are not "Eloquent" .

[Morch]

6 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

Yet again you  join the ranks of those that are incapable of differentiating  the  genuine aspects of debate without  resorting eventually to accusation of  partisan allegiance not compatible with  your own  despite very deliberate attempts to present  balanced opinion but always with  the taint of  bias .

My  allegiance is towards humanitarian outcome which unfortunately is often at odds with the predominant infliction of aggressive superior power. Too often that does not align with geopolitical agenda  regardless of  humanitarian concern.

I am surprised  you  did not/have not resorted to the defeatist retort  of " Whataboutism  etc" that so often gets inserted by some ignorants on many  topics .

So in granting that you are not an ignorant elucidate the forum community  on the gambit of atrocities "the other side " did  to each other prior to the infliction of the Israeli Nation State" .

Be sure to  include major community insults  rather than individual crimes in that  if  you can.

 

You claim to be concerned with thing 'humanitarian'. Yet, somehow, most of what you post is basically a host of accusations leveled at Israel, and peppered with similarly one sided anecdotes. When confronted with facts, you throw a hissy fit.

 

You're welcome to look up topic, as there are at least several posts (mine and other posters') relating the details mentioned. The topic is not about the entire history of the conflict, though, even if some try to make it so. I will add, that it is impossible to claim knowledge about the history of the conflict, without being aware of these things.

 

Eager to learn what  'community insults' are.

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

I've just had a cracking idea, lets kill all the Arabs and Israeli's in the Middle East and leave all the oil to the good ole US of A which is what this is all about which ever way you want to cut this cake.

 

Human Beings are so funny, if it wasn't for the fact I was crying for humanity.

 

Flame away people , flame away.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I've just had a cracking idea, lets kill all the Arabs and Israeli's in the Middle East and leave all the oil to the good ole US of A which is what this is all about which ever way you want to cut this cake.

 

Human Beings are so funny, if it wasn't for the fact I was crying for humanity.

 

Flame away people , flame away.

That's the best you can do, really? 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I've just had a cracking idea, lets kill all the Arabs and Israeli's in the Middle East and leave all the oil to the good ole US of A which is what this is all about which ever way you want to cut this cake.

 

Not campaigning for the Nobel Peace Prize this year then Jeff.

[Jeff the Chef]

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That's the best you can do, really? 

You got a better idea then?

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

You got a better idea then?

Yes

[rabas]

Crystal clear up close video of intact hospital, from local Gazans. 

 

Warning: video contains broken windows and a burnt tree.

 

[Jeff the Chef]

1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Not campaigning for the Nobel Peace Prize this year then Jeff.

Campaigning for peace, maybe, chances of peace ever happening in this world, no chance.

[RanongCat]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

You claim to be concerned with thing 'humanitarian'. Yet, somehow, most of what you post is basically a host of accusations leveled at Israel, and peppered with similarly one sided anecdotes. When confronted with facts, you throw a hissy fit.

 

You're welcome to look up topic, as there are at least several posts (mine and other posters') relating the details mentioned. The topic is not about the entire history of the conflict, though, even if some try to make it so. I will add, that it is impossible to claim knowledge about the history of the conflict, without being aware of these things.

 

Eager to learn what  'community insults' are.

 

 

Once more you attempt to denigrate . Can you not comprehend that the origins of the historical conflict are based  in combinations of insult to a population displaced by the imposed dictate of a distant authority to mandate  mass occupation of a religious denomination devoid in most  ways of regional culture ? To this day that is the  basis of  internal disruption of the  dominant ruling sector.

Your posts  (including sympathetic  other) invariably avoid the  most pertinent details  behind the  reality of tenuous control of an  artificial  state.

It is that infliction that has created "extremism".

Extremism  has created a role for military "intervention."

Intervention creates a need for industrial support.

Industrial support involves  Multi national Corporate involvement.

The people  who die  enmasse are not  usually  major shareholders so who gives a flying monkey ....?

 

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Campaigning for peace, maybe, chances of peace ever happening in this world, no chance.

By killing "...all the Arabs and Israeli's in the Middle East..."?

[Yellowtail]

33 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

Yet again you  join the ranks of those that are incapable of differentiating  the  genuine aspects of debate without  resorting eventually to accusation of  partisan allegiance not compatible with  your own  despite very deliberate attempts to present  balanced opinion but always with  the taint of  bias .

My  allegiance is towards humanitarian outcome which unfortunately is often at odds with the predominant infliction of aggressive superior power. Too often that does not align with geopolitical agenda  regardless of  humanitarian concern.

I am surprised  you  did not/have not resorted to the defeatist retort  of " Whataboutism  etc" that so often gets inserted by some ignorants on many  topics .

So in granting that you are not an ignorant elucidate the forum community  on the gambit of atrocities "the other side " did  to each other prior to the infliction of the Israeli Nation State" .

Be sure to  include major community insults  rather than individual crimes in that  if  you can.

 

Sounds a bit like you're denigrating...

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

Once more you attempt to denigrate . Can you not comprehend that the origins of the historical conflict are based  in combinations of insult to a population displaced by the imposed dictate of a distant authority to mandate  mass occupation of a religious denomination devoid in most  ways of regional culture ? To this day that is the  basis of  internal disruption of the  dominant ruling sector.

Your posts  (including sympathetic  other) invariably avoid the  most pertinent details  behind the  reality of tenuous control of an  artificial  state.

It is that infliction that has created "extremism".

Extremism  has created a role for military "intervention."

Intervention creates a need for industrial support.

Industrial support involves  Multi national Corporate involvement.

The people  who die  enmasse are not  usually  major shareholders so who gives a flying monkey ....?

 

 

 

 

And more denigration....

[Eloquent pilgrim]

2 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

Once more you attempt to denigrate . Can you not comprehend that the origins of the historical conflict are based  in combinations of insult to a population displaced by the imposed dictate of a distant authority to mandate  mass occupation of a religious denomination devoid in most  ways of regional culture ? To this day that is the  basis of  internal disruption of the  dominant ruling sector.

Your posts  (including sympathetic  other) invariably avoid the  most pertinent details  behind the  reality of tenuous control of an  artificial  state.

It is that infliction that has created "extremism".

Extremism  has created a role for military "intervention."

Intervention creates a need for industrial support.

Industrial support involves  Multi national Corporate involvement.

The people  who die  enmasse are not  usually  major shareholders so who gives a flying monkey ....?

 

 

 

 

Simple question ... do you support Hamas and the attack they made on Israel on Saturday 7th October 2023  ? .... no deflection/ history / whataboutery / context, just an answer .... thanks 

[Jeff the Chef]

14 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

You got a better idea then?

 

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes

Care to share it?

[RanongCat]

2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Simple question ... do you support Hamas and the attack they made on Israel on Saturday 7th October 2023  ? .... no deflection/ history / whataboutery / context, just an answer .... thanks 

No ! Not in the slightest.

[Thorgal]

44 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Here's the source to the intercepted recording:

 

 

So the Hamas rocket launcher was positioned on the parking lot of the hospital.

 

The same rocket that was launched broke in the air, misfired and came back within 25m radius on the parking lot?

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

The Occupation of Palestine: A Short History

 

 

[Yellowtail]

9 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Care to share it?

To what end? 

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

So the Hamas rocket launcher was positioned on the parking lot of the hospital.

 

The same rocket that was launched broke in the air, misfired and came back within 25m radius on the parking lot?

 

 

Your making things up. 25 meters? Where does it mention that

[Yellowtail]

10 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

No ! Not in the slightest.

Right

[Eloquent pilgrim]

7 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

So the Hamas rocket launcher was positioned on the parking lot of the hospital.

 

The same rocket that was launched broke in the air, misfired and came back within 25m radius on the parking lot?

 

 

Do you really not bother digesting any information before you make puerile comments (rhetorical)

 

The rocket was launched from a cemetery adjacent to the hospital.

[Thorgal]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Your making things up. 25 meters? Where does it mention that

The cemetery (next to the hospital) is +/- 25 m from the place of impact (crater).

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Thorgal said:

The cemetery (next to the hospital) is +/- 25 m from the place of impact (crater).

Dream on

[Eloquent pilgrim]

4 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

The cemetery (next to the hospital) is +/- 25 m from the place of impact (crater).

Go and stand in the corner. There is no crater, which is a defining part of the evidence that it was not hit by a bomb ….. are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really find it difficult to follow reports Edit: or did you not even read any report 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Eloquent pilgrim