RanongCat Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Morch said: I think that you are cherry picking and deflecting. There were atrocities, murders and whatnot carried out by Arabs vs Jews well before 1947. You choose and arbitrary point to start your 'argument'. Both sides have their long lists of bad things the other side did unto them. If you feel that the Hamas attack was 'justified' you're pretty much out there. Yet again you join the ranks of those that are incapable of differentiating the genuine aspects of debate without resorting eventually to accusation of partisan allegiance not compatible with your own despite very deliberate attempts to present balanced opinion but always with the taint of bias . My allegiance is towards humanitarian outcome which unfortunately is often at odds with the predominant infliction of aggressive superior power. Too often that does not align with geopolitical agenda regardless of humanitarian concern. I am surprised you did not/have not resorted to the defeatist retort of " Whataboutism etc" that so often gets inserted by some ignorants on many topics . So in granting that you are not an ignorant elucidate the forum community on the gambit of atrocities "the other side " did to each other prior to the infliction of the Israeli Nation State" . Be sure to include major community insults rather than individual crimes in that if you can. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 52 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: Guess who own's the Metro??? 🤣🤣🤣 Dear Jeff the Chef, unlike yourself, I do not find the need for guesswork, or deflecting from information on the basis of where it was published; this recording is widely available on many news outlets, although I’m sure you won’t bother to listen to it because it is exactly what you do not want to be true. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Yet again you join the ranks of those that are incapable of differentiating the genuine aspects of debate without resorting eventually to accusation of partisan allegiance not compatible with your own despite very deliberate attempts to present balanced opinion but always with the taint of bias . My allegiance is towards humanitarian outcome which unfortunately is often at odds with the predominant infliction of aggressive superior power. Too often that does not align with geopolitical agenda regardless of humanitarian concern. I am surprised you did not/have not resorted to the defeatist retort of " Whataboutism etc" that so often gets inserted by some ignorants on many topics . So in granting that you are not an ignorant elucidate the forum community on the gambit of atrocities "the other side " did to each other prior to the infliction of the Israeli Nation State" . Be sure to include major community insults rather than individual crimes in that if you can. Yep, you're cornered...................🤭 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, RanongCat said: So in granting that you are not an ignorant elucidate the forum community on the gambit of atrocities "the other side " did to each other prior to the infliction of the Israeli Nation State" . Be sure to include major community insults rather than individual crimes in that if you can. What on earth are you waffling on about ? What in heavens name is a "ignorant elucidate" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: What on earth are you waffling on about ? What in heavens name is a "ignorant elucidate" If you need to correct my grammar to extract meaning then indeed you are not "Eloquent" . 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Yet again you join the ranks of those that are incapable of differentiating the genuine aspects of debate without resorting eventually to accusation of partisan allegiance not compatible with your own despite very deliberate attempts to present balanced opinion but always with the taint of bias . My allegiance is towards humanitarian outcome which unfortunately is often at odds with the predominant infliction of aggressive superior power. Too often that does not align with geopolitical agenda regardless of humanitarian concern. I am surprised you did not/have not resorted to the defeatist retort of " Whataboutism etc" that so often gets inserted by some ignorants on many topics . So in granting that you are not an ignorant elucidate the forum community on the gambit of atrocities "the other side " did to each other prior to the infliction of the Israeli Nation State" . Be sure to include major community insults rather than individual crimes in that if you can. You claim to be concerned with thing 'humanitarian'. Yet, somehow, most of what you post is basically a host of accusations leveled at Israel, and peppered with similarly one sided anecdotes. When confronted with facts, you throw a hissy fit. You're welcome to look up topic, as there are at least several posts (mine and other posters') relating the details mentioned. The topic is not about the entire history of the conflict, though, even if some try to make it so. I will add, that it is impossible to claim knowledge about the history of the conflict, without being aware of these things. Eager to learn what 'community insults' are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I've just had a cracking idea, lets kill all the Arabs and Israeli's in the Middle East and leave all the oil to the good ole US of A which is what this is all about which ever way you want to cut this cake. Human Beings are so funny, if it wasn't for the fact I was crying for humanity. Flame away people , flame away. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said: I've just had a cracking idea, lets kill all the Arabs and Israeli's in the Middle East and leave all the oil to the good ole US of A which is what this is all about which ever way you want to cut this cake. Human Beings are so funny, if it wasn't for the fact I was crying for humanity. Flame away people , flame away. That's the best you can do, really? 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: I've just had a cracking idea, lets kill all the Arabs and Israeli's in the Middle East and leave all the oil to the good ole US of A which is what this is all about which ever way you want to cut this cake. Not campaigning for the Nobel Peace Prize this year then Jeff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: That's the best you can do, really? You got a better idea then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: You got a better idea then? Yes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 Crystal clear up close video of intact hospital, from local Gazans. Warning: video contains broken windows and a burnt tree. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Not campaigning for the Nobel Peace Prize this year then Jeff. Campaigning for peace, maybe, chances of peace ever happening in this world, no chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Morch said: You claim to be concerned with thing 'humanitarian'. Yet, somehow, most of what you post is basically a host of accusations leveled at Israel, and peppered with similarly one sided anecdotes. When confronted with facts, you throw a hissy fit. You're welcome to look up topic, as there are at least several posts (mine and other posters') relating the details mentioned. The topic is not about the entire history of the conflict, though, even if some try to make it so. I will add, that it is impossible to claim knowledge about the history of the conflict, without being aware of these things. Eager to learn what 'community insults' are. Once more you attempt to denigrate . Can you not comprehend that the origins of the historical conflict are based in combinations of insult to a population displaced by the imposed dictate of a distant authority to mandate mass occupation of a religious denomination devoid in most ways of regional culture ? To this day that is the basis of internal disruption of the dominant ruling sector. Your posts (including sympathetic other) invariably avoid the most pertinent details behind the reality of tenuous control of an artificial state. It is that infliction that has created "extremism". Extremism has created a role for military "intervention." Intervention creates a need for industrial support. Industrial support involves Multi national Corporate involvement. The people who die enmasse are not usually major shareholders so who gives a flying monkey ....? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said: Campaigning for peace, maybe, chances of peace ever happening in this world, no chance. By killing "...all the Arabs and Israeli's in the Middle East..."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Yet again you join the ranks of those that are incapable of differentiating the genuine aspects of debate without resorting eventually to accusation of partisan allegiance not compatible with your own despite very deliberate attempts to present balanced opinion but always with the taint of bias . My allegiance is towards humanitarian outcome which unfortunately is often at odds with the predominant infliction of aggressive superior power. Too often that does not align with geopolitical agenda regardless of humanitarian concern. I am surprised you did not/have not resorted to the defeatist retort of " Whataboutism etc" that so often gets inserted by some ignorants on many topics . So in granting that you are not an ignorant elucidate the forum community on the gambit of atrocities "the other side " did to each other prior to the infliction of the Israeli Nation State" . Be sure to include major community insults rather than individual crimes in that if you can. Sounds a bit like you're denigrating... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Once more you attempt to denigrate . Can you not comprehend that the origins of the historical conflict are based in combinations of insult to a population displaced by the imposed dictate of a distant authority to mandate mass occupation of a religious denomination devoid in most ways of regional culture ? To this day that is the basis of internal disruption of the dominant ruling sector. Your posts (including sympathetic other) invariably avoid the most pertinent details behind the reality of tenuous control of an artificial state. It is that infliction that has created "extremism". Extremism has created a role for military "intervention." Intervention creates a need for industrial support. Industrial support involves Multi national Corporate involvement. The people who die enmasse are not usually major shareholders so who gives a flying monkey ....? And more denigration.... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, RanongCat said: Once more you attempt to denigrate . Can you not comprehend that the origins of the historical conflict are based in combinations of insult to a population displaced by the imposed dictate of a distant authority to mandate mass occupation of a religious denomination devoid in most ways of regional culture ? To this day that is the basis of internal disruption of the dominant ruling sector. Your posts (including sympathetic other) invariably avoid the most pertinent details behind the reality of tenuous control of an artificial state. It is that infliction that has created "extremism". Extremism has created a role for military "intervention." Intervention creates a need for industrial support. Industrial support involves Multi national Corporate involvement. The people who die enmasse are not usually major shareholders so who gives a flying monkey ....? Simple question ... do you support Hamas and the attack they made on Israel on Saturday 7th October 2023 ? .... no deflection/ history / whataboutery / context, just an answer .... thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: You got a better idea then? 11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Yes Care to share it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanongCat Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Simple question ... do you support Hamas and the attack they made on Israel on Saturday 7th October 2023 ? .... no deflection/ history / whataboutery / context, just an answer .... thanks No ! Not in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Here's the source to the intercepted recording: So the Hamas rocket launcher was positioned on the parking lot of the hospital. The same rocket that was launched broke in the air, misfired and came back within 25m radius on the parking lot? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 The Occupation of Palestine: A Short History Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: Care to share it? To what end? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thorgal said: So the Hamas rocket launcher was positioned on the parking lot of the hospital. The same rocket that was launched broke in the air, misfired and came back within 25m radius on the parking lot? Your making things up. 25 meters? Where does it mention that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, RanongCat said: No ! Not in the slightest. Right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Thorgal said: So the Hamas rocket launcher was positioned on the parking lot of the hospital. The same rocket that was launched broke in the air, misfired and came back within 25m radius on the parking lot? Do you really not bother digesting any information before you make puerile comments (rhetorical) The rocket was launched from a cemetery adjacent to the hospital. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Your making things up. 25 meters? Where does it mention that The cemetery (next to the hospital) is +/- 25 m from the place of impact (crater). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Thorgal said: The cemetery (next to the hospital) is +/- 25 m from the place of impact (crater). Dream on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Thorgal said: The cemetery (next to the hospital) is +/- 25 m from the place of impact (crater). Go and stand in the corner. There is no crater, which is a defining part of the evidence that it was not hit by a bomb ….. are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really find it difficult to follow reports Edit: or did you not even read any report Edited October 18, 2023 by Eloquent pilgrim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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