French mother demands justice for son sexually assaulted by Thai man in Koh Samui

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

I believe that ALL sexual predators and peadophiles found guilty should be castrated. 

Is that all? They deserve torture and death. 

 

 

[Rimmer]

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[Liverpool Lou]

22 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

23 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yeah right.

 

"I never said that I would file a defamation suit".

Well, you did post this threat, "I am  no Pedo ... you suggest that with your post ? be careful , defamation laws ..."

So what ...?

So that's why I posted my comment.   Gawd...

Edited October 10, 2023 by Liverpool Lou

[bizboi]

6 hours ago, Colabamumbai said:

No justice here, take the law into your own hands, you are the law. 

..who do you think she is Ronda Rousey? Ridiculous statement!!!

[nobodysfriend]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

So that's why I posted my comment!

Better you learn to read and stop suggesting something that did not happen .

 

[nobodysfriend]

5 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

Better you learn to read and stop suggesting something that did not happen .

 

Pooh ... I am out of here , tired of dealing with Idiots ... thanks smiley ... 55

[jvs]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Yep, sending a 7yo out alone in a foreign country is a bit silly.

Could have been abducted, run over, got lost.

10 meters from the hotel?and they had stayed there awhile?

 

[jvs]

2 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

I believe that ALL sexual predators and peadophiles found guilty should be castrated. 

That will only slow a few down,there are better ways to stop them from doing it.

[newnative]

33 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, they cannot interfere in criminal cases, neither can they provide legal assistance except by recommending lawyers to do that.

    While an embassy can't interfere in legal cases, I think it has the right to get involved, if it so chooses.  From the US Embassy website:

 

If arrested or detained: visit you in detention, advocate for your rights under Thai law, ensure access to the prison’s healthcare system, and assist with communication with your family or loved one

 

    'Advocate' is a rather broad term, perhaps intentionally.  So, at least with an American, the Embassy can step in and 'advocate' on your behalf--which could involve 'advocating' a compromise. 

    The French website says French consulates 'intervene' when a French citizen is arrested to insure their rights are respected.  'Intervene' is also not too specific but, in both instances, it seems like there is some leeway in what can be attempted to assist a citizen.

     Having said all that, after some dealings I've had with the American Embassy, I would expect the assistance to be the bare minimum.  Although a case drawing wide publicity might, perhaps, spur a more helpful response.

[jvs]

1 hour ago, jaideedave said:

I also agree with you.If at home in a familiar place ok, but not in a foreign country.

A very naive comment.

[paulbrow]

18 hours ago, phetphet said:

She should check to see if the shop has CCTV.

Read the story!

[phetphet]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You should read the full OP.

I know. Several others have already commented. I didn't see the link. 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Once again, a ridiculous over-generalisation and something that "we all" certainly do not know.

I'm betting you don't have children.

[phetphet]

46 minutes ago, paulbrow said:

Read the story!

<deleted> me. Another one.

Perhaps you should read the whole thread too! You are fourth one to tell me. Sorry, but I missed the link to the Thaiger story.

[spidermike007]

Many years ago, my sister in law, was involved with a rather dodgy Brit, while living on Samui. When she finally ditched him, he was livid, and just could not handle it. He ended up coming one night, at 3:30am, and burning down her bungalow, which was made of wood and thatch. It went up like a bomb. Fortunately, neither she, nor her roommate were there at the time, or they would have either died, or ended up with major 3rd degree burns all over their bodies, which I believe was his intention. In most countries, this would be treated as attempted murder, correct? The police were able to find a video of him racing away from the scene, at around 3:35am, as there was a CCTV camera in front of the police station, only a few hundred meters away from her bungalow. They took him in, and told him he would have to leave Thailand, and could never return. Not sure what exchanged hands, for him to not have been arrested. He was also told he would have to pay my sister in law 120,000 baht for the destruction of her gold, cash, and possessions. Same for her friend. He did pay. We know that for a fact, as we were friendly with a couple of his friends.

 

When she went to the police station to collect, she was told that he never paid, and he was already back in Thailand. But, that they had advocated for her, and made sure he could never come back to Thailand! When she pushed, and told them that she knew for a fact that he had paid them, she was told that her life was now in danger, and that she needed to back down, and go away, or her safety could not be guaranteed.

 

That is the Samui police. Some things never change. They re-define both corruption and a lack of real law enforcement. 

 

[SunsetT]

7 hours ago, Spock said:

Thai males would quite openly give a young boy a quick fiddle

Yes. I have seen it a couple of times in Esaan. Same as a quick tickle under the chin with index finger but under the penis instead. Quite openly in a public place because it was a part of Thai or Esaan culture. Dont know if it still is.

 

But this case is quite different. Quite clearly peadophilia.

Edited October 10, 2023 by SunsetT

[sambum]

20 hours ago, phetphet said:

She should check to see if the shop has CCTV.

"Sorry - CCTV not work - broken"!

[Graham8888]

5 hours ago, Lopburikid said:

I have heard so many bad things happening to foreigners in Phuket and Koh Samui that I can't understand why people go there.

I visited this summer for the first time in 20 years and found still the same friendly courteous people across the island from the hotel staff to taxi drivers and in restaurants. It’s a stunning place to visit.

[pp00]

7 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

 

 

 

Sickos are everywhere ... she should have known this and gone back to the store herself or , at least , accompany her son .

No serious harm was done , just learn from this , and let it be this time ....

That is serious harm

[pacovl46]

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Yep, sending a 7yo out alone in a foreign country is a bit silly.

Could have been abducted, run over, got lost.

The shop was literally only 10 meters away. .

[pacovl46]

53 minutes ago, sambum said:

"Sorry - CCTV not work - broken"!

He unplugged it...

[pacovl46]

5 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Paedophilic men are fundamentally different than standard humans in their reaction to exposure to the underage and it is incurable. Not saying life jail in cases but they need to be permanently separated from society. Perhaps a remote Thai island where they will never “ever” experience another chance to encounter a child for the rest of their natural lives. 
 

 

Yeah, their brains are wired differently. Normally when people see young children the part of the brain that is responsible for a sense of protection gets activated, but in pedophiles it's the sexual arousal area gets activated. It's quite strange, but it is what it is.

[pacovl46]

21 hours ago, phetphet said:

She should check to see if the shop has CCTV.

The article literally states that the guy unplugged it beforehand. 

[Captain Monday]

53 minutes ago, pacovl46 said:

Yeah, their brains are wired differently. Normally when people see young children the part of the brain that is responsible for a sense of protection gets activated, but in pedophiles it's the sexual arousal area gets activated. It's quite strange, but it is what it is.

Exactly.
 

A normal person sees a child lost or in distress immediately calls a policeman, customer service in a mall or airport, looks for the parent. These demons hype out uncontrollable looking how to drag the child to a room somewhere. I have read there are peados who can control their foul urges due fear of capture. These are the ones INMHO  who end up in developing countries to buy or snatch because they think they can get away with it.  
 

Many of these threads are soon infested with them. The defense of noncery, equivocations and whataboutisms. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by Captain Monday

[pacovl46]

3 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

Exactly.
 

A normal person sees a child lost or in distress immediately calls a policeman, customer service in a mall or airport, looks for the parent. These demons hype out uncontrollable looking how to drag the child to a room somewhere. I have read there are peados who can control their foul urges due fear of capture. These are the ones INMHO  who end up in developing countries to buy or snatch because they think they can get away with it.  
 

Many of these threads are soon infested with them. The defense of noncery, equivocations and whataboutisms. 

For some it's an urge they can fight off for awhile, but eventually they just have to give in. A lot of them also genuinely regret it afterwards. Imagine you have to live with that! What a nightmare that must be. Others are just psychopaths who don't give a <deleted> at all. They just go do their thing! Those are the really dangerous ones. Either way, one can just be glad to not have these inclinations! 

[Funthai]

Thai man denies sexually assaulting 7 year old French boy in Koh Samui | Thaiger (thethaiger.com)

Edited October 10, 2023 by Funthai

[okok]

 

IF YOU WANT TO HELP :

FOR THIS WOMAN AND HER SON

 

 

https://www.leetchi.com/fr/c/agression-sexuel-sur-mineur-en-thailande-6073204?utm_source=native&utm_medium=social_sharing

AGRESSION SE*XUEL SUR MINEUR EN THAILANDE

GOOGLE TRANSLATION :

 

 

 

I speak to you today with a heavy heart, in the hope that you can help us through an extremely difficult time of life in Thailand. While we were on vacation, my son, my reason for living, was faced with an unbearable situation when he was sexually assaulted by a local grocer while I was 20 meters away from him. This experience left deep wounds in my child's heart, leaving him traumatized and afraid.

So that justice can be served and my son can begin the long process of healing, I am fighting for him by hiring lawyers and going to appointments with the prosecutor. However, these steps come at a considerable cost. Each appointment with the prosecutor requires around 10,000 baht, and there are likely to be three to come. In addition, we need interpreters to facilitate communication, which adds additional expenses of around a hundred euros to each appointment. Not to mention the cost of lawyers on site.

Currently, we find ourselves alone with these expenses. We have received no assistance from the French Embassy in Thailand, which leaves us helpless amid these financial challenges.

This is why we are launching this prize pool. Every contribution, no matter the amount, brings us one step closer to achieving justice for my son and giving him the chance to heal. I would like to assure you that if, through an act of generosity, the costs incurred must be reimbursed in the future, we are committed to returning the money collected to all donors who wish it.

Every euro, every baht counts, and your generosity can make a significant difference in my son's life and ours.

 

 

Edited October 10, 2023 by okok

[geisha]

14 hours ago, newnative said:

     I think if you read the more complete story--although, still sketchy--rather than the AN synopsis, you get a somewhat fuller picture and the police actions make more sense.  There are two separate issues.  First, the assault charge against the French woman.  The woman slapped the Thai man, which she admits doing, and he filed an assault charge.  With her confession, the police charged her with the assault and confiscated her passport to prevent her from leaving the country before the case is heard.  Makes sense to me.  Assaulting someone can have consequences.  She will have the opportunity to explain her actions, and perhaps win her case, when it comes to trial.

     The second issue is the alleged assault on her son.  There is no  CCTV evidence and, apparently, no witnesses other than her son.  So, essentially, it's one person's word, a foreigner, against another person's word, a Thai citizen.  And, the son is no longer in Thailand to provide evidence or testimony.   A prosecutor might very well decide to not go forward with such a lack of evidence.  

     The action, or inaction, of the French Embassy is the mystery to me--although we may not have all the details.  They have a French citizen in trouble and it seems they could be doing more in the way of support.  An embassy representative might also be able to step in and perhaps negotiate a resolution where charges against the woman are dropped if she drops her charges and agrees to leave the country.   She admits she has no job and no financial resources and, while it may not be the justice she wants, it may be the best she can hope for at this point.

Who wouldn’t whack this man if he touched their child ? 
Was he hurt , no mention !  
couldn’t the police have been more understanding seeing it was a case of probably child abuse ?
No empathy in obliging the 7 year old !!!! child to a reenactment !!! Disgusting.

The little boy is sent home to family while the mother has her passport confiscated, what do you expect , keep the child in Thailand with more anxiety ?? 
The French Embassy cannot intervene , they can advise a lawyer. 
So, this mother is stuck in Thailand , doesn’t have the money to extend her stay which could be long ,  ( we all know what lawyers cost / hôtel new flight etc ) 
All fault and horreur for her, and none at all for the presumed child attacker ???

This is not invented , in what interest would the mother behave like this on their last day in Thailand ??
The police have certainly taken sides here. 
 

[geisha]

So apparently the man admitted touching the child twice on the bottom but that is «  normal when you love children ».That’s his story. ! Lots of misunderstandings here and too fast to condemn the mother. There was a horrible article concerning a young French girl traveler who got into really hot water in one  of the UAE countries, her English wasn’t the best and neither was the immigration police. Stories like these can spiral out of control.

[norfolkandchance]

22 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

Yeah right ... I never said that I would file a defamation suit . Why would I ?

Posters here can be identified by their IP address if police becomes involved .

Perhaps he doesn't live here.