Chinese police patrols plan dumped by ministers quickly after public backlash threatened to erupt

[herfiehandbag]

32 minutes ago, sumongkhwai said:

Seemed reasonable although they'd have to build several proper police stations to house the coppers. And then with their train coming through soon maybe a military base or two to protect the train say Lopburi and Bangkok. Kind of an insidious way way to get a foot hold IMO.

Infrastructure security will be the biggie...

[Homburg]

I guess this means that the Chinese Police in Thailand will have to remain under cover.

[gargamon]

10 minutes ago, Homburg said:

I guess this means that the Chinese Police in Thailand will have to remain under cover.

Like they are in Canada and the US at least? Check recent news about Chinese police stations there... 

 

 

[Chongalulu]

49 minutes ago, bob smith said:

I sometimes think that the way policy works in Thailand begins with a leak from some official in government, then they wait to see the reaction from the public and decide to whether or not to proceed.

Not really here,just not that sophisticated. Think Dunning - Kruger effect.

[Sig]

Someone in government showed symptoms of common sense!? I hope that's contagious! And hope they don't snap out of it.
How on earth could one ever think having foreign police on your soil would be a good idea, especially from mafia-like communist tyrants whom the citizens under their thumb might actually be glad to be out from under their purview for a bit and be able to relax and enjoy life on vacation for a bit???

[Sydebolle]

What a pity but then again, the local boys do not want anyone else feasting on the monetary flesh pots of Thailand's highways .......... 

[smedly]

having an effective  police presence on the streets of Thailand would be a nice change but....................... 

 

not really workable 

 

what would be more effective is if the Thai police understood what their ### job was and did it

[smedly]

27 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Like they are in Canada and the US at least? Check recent news about Chinese police stations there... 

 

 

there is a difference between having Chinese police operating on foreign soil and Chinese people making up a police presence in a community in what is effectively their home, I don't agree with either, recruiting from across the community for a balanced approach is always best, shouldn'tmake a difference if the law is being enforced but it is a good look 

[VocalNeal]

They could teach some tourist police to speak Chinese and give them a special vest?

[PB172111]

2 hours ago, BE88 said:

This confirms that TAT reads ASEAN

Hmmm…if this was the case the Thai prisons would be full 😎

[Katipo]

New Government. Same foot in mouth. 

[brianthainess]

What has been left out is the Chinese cops were being invited, maybe they refused the invitation, lose of face for the Thais, and maybe the Chinese tourists aren't coming back because they heard about this idea and thought, stuff that I aint going to Thailand now, with our cops there.     

[topdude]

The touristic reason for Chinese police active in Thailand is trivial compared to two other major considerations:

 

1. There is a *huge* amount of Chinese organised crime in Thailand ..  this is far more worthy of Chinese authorities presence here, rather than a tourist driven publicity stunt.

 

2.  There is *huge* concern in several western countries about semi-official and also unauthorised covert 'Chinese Police' stations used as bases to project state power and intimidate (or more) Chinese citizens resident in democratic countries.

 

Noting that there are already documented cases of Chinese nationals suspected of being kidnapped by Chinese authorities *in Thailand*, the argument for formally allowing their officials to operate in Thailand needs serious examination.

 

 

[stix40]

Road Sign

U Turn in 20 minutes ! 

[chilli42]

There are covert Chinese police stationed everywhere already … USA, Canada and Europe.  The purpose is to keep a watchful eye on criminals and any Chinese national that thinks they can say what they like.  If I were Chinese I would get no comfort or sense of safety from people spying on me.

[findlay13]

Hub of U- turns !

[digger70]

8 hours ago, Artisi said:

Just another about-face.

When will these idiots learn to engage brain before opening mouth? 

How would they do that, It takes ages to turn on their brain. some do not even have the Luxury to own one.

[phitsanulokjohn]

The Thai government.

U-Turn specialists.

All brought about by not thinking before opening their traps.

[Jing Joe]

As "bobthegimp" said in the similar article:- "Will Thailand be the next Hong Kong? "

But Bob, wait there's  more:-  The Solomon Islands P.M. has welcomed Chinese Police there, and supplying their arms to the local police, to quell any political backlash about all the Chinese infrastructure happening, including Naval.

Thaland (for the present) seems to have nipped in the bud what the beautiful ordinary Solomon Islanders couldnt.

How about the silent 'invasion" of other Pacific countries.

How about the dubious huge Naval vessell deal between China and Thailand?

How about the chinese Navy are now literally pushing Phillipine fishing boats away?

Watch this space people the worst is yet to come

[Arthur Mullard]

With respect nobody has grasped what I believe this is about, understandably. It's not connected IMO with the police stations as an earlier poster commented. The report seems to read that the TAT Governor made the proposal in light of falling tourism (therefore her/his attempt to rectify it) and here's the key bit "...following discussion in China with tour groups" - which tells you everything about how the world outside the borders of a largely cut-off country culturally, and 'inter-connectedly', sees the free world, eg Thailand. Also how rife poorly informed online gossip floods their social media about how bad this country is.... how unsafe that country is... whether Thailand, USA, Laos, the UK.... an utterly cosseted people. The TAT Gov has clearly been cajoled into thinking of ways to extend the nanny state into the freer world, 'so that tour groups will feel safer'.... as Roger Waters put it..... "PATHetic".

[Xonax]

7 hours ago, bob smith said:

Now just waiting for the inevitable flip flop on the ridiculous digital wallet scheme!

 

they seem to be drawing that one out at the moment..

No longer possible. The heavy loaded brown envelopes have most likely already been distributed by the digital wallet owners.

[freedomnow]

It would have interfered with brown envelope collections..haha.

[DjSilver]

How can those who makes decisions in Thailand be so incompetent all the time? All the time, they first make a decision to implement some new rule, only a few days after change it.

 

This is something that is mostly wrong with Asia, the incompetence all over.

[retayl]

If I was a Chinese tourist the last place I’d visit is somewhere swarming with Chinese cops. Shame they’ve backtracked on the idea.

[TigerGuardian]

There was absolutely no way this was ever going to be a good idea. I'm glad PM stepped forward and quickly put a end to such nonsense. The governor of TIT would be well advised to stay in her own lane.

[Andycoops]

Thailand for the Thais.

Excellent news, the tourism minister Muppet should now be told to stick to his portfolio or be sacked.

[bizboi]

On 11/4/2023 at 7:45 AM, billd766 said:

Then you need to add in 2 retirement visas through Immigration, any transport costs. hire or buy a car, unless the resort has its own fleet of vehicles and drivers.

 

90 day reports to immigration unless you can do it inline.

 

Perhaps a pc, tablet etc.

 

2 mobile smart phones with international connection apps.

 

If you want English food you can probably order it at the resort, alternatively there are British food shop online.

 

Medicines, doctors and hospital fees. You will pay farang prices for sure. Not to forget that at their age they will need health insurance, which unless they already have it, and it can be extended. will be expensive and hard to find.

 

Also, if they are honest and declare that they now live in Thailand, their pension will be frozen.

 

All little things that I have not seen mentioned in the thread so far.

 

But the little things add up.

 

They will have, at least IMO, a better and more comfortable life than in damp and dreary UK. Life will be better for them.

 

10 hours ago, 2baht said:

I wonder how many of the Russian insurgents in Phuket are cops?

One things for sure - not many of em are soldiers!!!

[Blumpie]

9 hours ago, topdude said:

The touristic reason for Chinese police active in Thailand is trivial compared to two other major considerations:

 

1. There is a *huge* amount of Chinese organised crime in Thailand ..  this is far more worthy of Chinese authorities presence here, rather than a tourist driven publicity stunt.

 

2.  There is *huge* concern in several western countries about semi-official and also unauthorised covert 'Chinese Police' stations used as bases to project state power and intimidate (or more) Chinese citizens resident in democratic countries.

 

Noting that there are already documented cases of Chinese nationals suspected of being kidnapped by Chinese authorities *in Thailand*, the argument for formally allowing their officials to operate in Thailand needs serious examination.

 

 

All the more reason to understand that the entire country is corrupt.  Everyone knows it, hell dogs know it walking in the street.  

They like it this way.  

[candide]

9 hours ago, topdude said:

The touristic reason for Chinese police active in Thailand is trivial compared to two other major considerations:

 

1. There is a *huge* amount of Chinese organised crime in Thailand ..  this is far more worthy of Chinese authorities presence here, rather than a tourist driven publicity stunt.

 

2.  There is *huge* concern in several western countries about semi-official and also unauthorised covert 'Chinese Police' stations used as bases to project state power and intimidate (or more) Chinese citizens resident in democratic countries.

 

Noting that there are already documented cases of Chinese nationals suspected of being kidnapped by Chinese authorities *in Thailand*, the argument for formally allowing their officials to operate in Thailand needs serious examination.

 

 

I agree with the relevance of these two issues. However, about the first one, it should be noted that there is also a huge amount of organised crime in China which is only selectively repressed by the Chinese police.

[BobBKK]

No "public backlash"  translate = the Police Chief didn't like it