freedomnow Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Any of you there feel things are bit more active with tourist numbers into CM - or still feels nothing like pre-covid ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I went a few times this year. So so. I liked it. Less the better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedomnow Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 mid-2022 was quite gloomy when I was over though low season and masking abound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Be good now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dcheech Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 There are a lot of people in town right now. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post novacova Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dcheech said: There are a lot of people in town right now. …too many 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roo860 Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, Dcheech said: There are a lot of people in town right now. Excellent, great for Thai people trying to make a living. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedomnow Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 Nice, as 2022 was a bit of a mis-fire / feeling any buzz like pre-covid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, bignok said: I went a few times this year. So so. I liked it. Less the better. Me too. Having both lived and visited for many years I get both perspectives, as can many here. CM is great with or without tourists, but as a tourist, though clearly more expensive, it is more fun with high numbers. When one is living there, not so much so when numpties are posing for photos in the street etc. Mid 2022 was nice as a reboot for me visiting after so many years, all chilled but missing something. I just don't want that magnificent place going pre-covid numbers! Edited December 1, 2023 by daveAustin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Dec. and Jan. are usually fairly busy. The weather is mild and no smoke yet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 gradually getting busier but seems less so than in the past... friends w/stores have customers, but not a lot of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcheech Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said: gradually getting busier but seems less so than in the past... friends w/stores have customers, but not a lot of them Correct less tourists than in 2018, 2017, 2016 etc. However about the same as 2019, when celestial tourists did not come in force as problems with boat sinkings & airport beat downs led to bad talk on Weibo, ---- Oh, and then there was Wuhan Flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I was in CM for a week mid November. Flights to/from Samui were full. Hotel so so. Walking around the Old City there were lots of tourists. Restaurants and bars were also busy. Nimman are was very lively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Isn't it like Jazz week or something now? I think that might bring in Thai tourists but also with Loy Krathong just ending probably busy at the moment Traffic on Canal was insane this time last year...Hopefully not as bad this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 13 hours ago, daveAustin said: Me too. Having both lived and visited for many years I get both perspectives, as can many here. CM is great with or without tourists, but as a tourist, though clearly more expensive, it is more fun with high numbers. When one is living there, not so much so when numpties are posing for photos in the street etc. Mid 2022 was nice as a reboot for me visiting after so many years, all chilled but missing something. I just don't want that magnificent place going pre-covid numbers! 1. Many / the more the merrier tourists are good for the local traders. They need money to survive too. 2. Most of us who live permanently in CM have little contact with the tourists and little if anything to be concerned about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Was there in Feb and October this year. NOTICABLY more tourists both trips this year than the 4 previous trips last year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prubangboy Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Hotel rates are up by a third since the spring. Grabcab fares about the same. Eating out, at least 20% more. Christmas and the 3 weeks after it will be huge. Nimman completely packs out on the weekends, with many Bangkok people flying up for the the EDM raves that happen every weekend out in the sticks. I went to one; it's like The Beach circa '96. All nationalities partying together, more mushrooms than MDMA. The Chinese have been light here of late, but they were def back in force for the lantern festival. They're big ravers too. Relatedly, a friend just got back from Pai and said the walking street was wall to wall people. In the middle of the week. Even Chiang Dao is a bit busy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 On 12/2/2023 at 12:10 PM, scorecard said: 1. Many / the more the merrier tourists are good for the local traders. They need money to survive too. 2. Most of us who live permanently in CM have little contact with the tourists and little if anything to be concerned about. You would think so, but: 1) more customers, more traders appear, the money per business remains the same. Example: elephant trousers stands and coffee shops that seem to mushroom everywhere. 2) I do not interact with tourists in the sense of talking to them, but I am concerned if I have to avoid certain roads or supermarkets due to their numbers. Not to mention prices and availability of domestic flights, and the number of bloody tuk-tuks/rot daeng and rental scooters on the roads. There should be an optimum balance, November was kind of ok for me, let's see xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, arithai12 said: You would think so, but: 1) more customers, more traders appear, the money per business remains the same. Example: elephant trousers stands and coffee shops that seem to mushroom everywhere. 2) I do not interact with tourists in the sense of talking to them, but I am concerned if I have to avoid certain roads or supermarkets due to their numbers. Not to mention prices and availability of domestic flights, and the number of bloody tuk-tuks/rot daeng and rental scooters on the roads. There should be an optimum balance, November was kind of ok for me, let's see xmas. Suggest you're overthinking the situation. So what's your strategy... Edited December 4, 2023 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Half the shops in town are still closed. Walk down moonmung soi 1 and loi Kroh, many bars and restaurants closed and shuttered, most of the open places completely empty of customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amexpat Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Very sad the gogo bars are gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/4/2023 at 9:19 AM, Prubangboy said: Hotel rates are up by a third since the spring. Grabcab fares about the same. Eating out, at least 20% more. Christmas and the 3 weeks after it will be huge. Nimman completely packs out on the weekends, with many Bangkok people flying up for the the EDM raves that happen every weekend out in the sticks. I went to one; it's like The Beach circa '96. All nationalities partying together, more mushrooms than MDMA. The Chinese have been light here of late, but they were def back in force for the lantern festival. They're big ravers too. Relatedly, a friend just got back from Pai and said the walking street was wall to wall people. In the middle of the week. Even Chiang Dao is a bit busy. Has Nimman become the new tourist hot spot, leaving the rest of the city with fewer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lister Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 hours ago, amexpat said: Very sad the gogo bars are gone. Best thing that ever happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lister Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 55 minutes ago, heybruce said: Has Nimman become the new tourist hot spot, leaving the rest of the city with fewer? Pretty much, that and the old city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prubangboy Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Nimman is a big draw for Asian tourists and a second entertainment district. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amexpat Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, Mike Lister said: Best thing that ever happened here. Your imaginary friend loves you for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 20 hours ago, Mike Lister said: Pretty much, that and the old city. Too bad. Hopefully Santitham won't suffer that fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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