Popular Post webfact Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 A 30 year old restaurant owner from Nonthaburi suffered a loss of over 600,000 baht during his recent family trip to France. He has shared his harrowing experience to alert others and prevent them from becoming victims. Thalerngsak Khongkwanmuang revealed yesterday, December 12, his ordeal which occurred between November 7 and 21 during his holiday in France with his 48 year old mother and 53 year old aunt. On November 7, they were targeted by a group of criminals in Paris. While travelling on the underground train, the perpetrators targeted his mother who had her handbag in front of her. Due to the crowded nature of the train, the criminals managed to snatch her purse. Subsequently, Thalerngsak reported the theft to the Paris police. It was discovered later that the mother’s credit card was used to purchase goods worth approximately 300,000 baht. He then immediately contacted the bank to cancel the credit card. On November 10, the family was travelling by train to visit the Palace of Versailles. They changed to a weekly ticket but did not sign it. Four individuals, posing as police officers, checked their tickets and claimed that Thalerngsak was sitting rudely by putting his feet on the seat and that he did not sign the ticket. They were fined 500 euros. by Puntid Tantivangphaisal Photo courtesy of KhaoSod Full story: The Thaiger 2023-12-13 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 1 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 you would think he'd be well aware of scams considering where he lives, the EU has been invaded by thieves and scamers in recent years so a warning is not unwarranted 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shuya Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 If the credit card was stolen, it will cost them nothing. If they payed 500 Euro as a fine / bribe / scam, thats 20'000 THB. Nowhere near the 600'000 THB they claim. Sounds more like a scam from their side. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CartagenaWarlock Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, Shuya said: f the credit card was stolen, it will cost them nothing. I'm not sure how much fraud protection Thai credit cards have or how easy it is to claim fraud for charges. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) not to worry. in a few days a lovely french taxi driver will return 1 million euro in cash to some tourists. Edited December 13, 2023 by stoner 2 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) also this story is all kinds of strange. all of these events happened to this single family on 1 holiday ? first - robbed on a train second - extorted on a train third - car broken into and subsequently robbed again fourth - ya i don't buy this BS at all. aaaaaaaaand the story just happens to come out right after TAT boasts about local tourism. now i know i am a stoner and all but i am also a trained customs and immigration officer. this story has red flags galore. just saying. Edited December 13, 2023 by stoner 1 3 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pouatchee Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 Financial loss warning Thalerngsak contacted a Thai restaurant owner in Lyon who helped them report the incident to the police. They then obtained a police report to claim insurance. from 'the thaiger' yup, smells like scam... so his inferred message is, for thais, get insurance so you can scam them and come back home wealthier than when you left. 1 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StayinThailand2much Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 Damn! Thai shenanigans taking hold in France... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 Quote It was discovered later that the mother’s credit card was used to purchase goods worth approximately 300,000 baht. He then immediately contacted the bank to cancel the credit card. So he did not cancel the credit cards until after they had been used? Surely, any normal person would cancel the card immediately after the theft. 2 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 What an adventure, i bet they didn't figure on having so mun fun and excitement in one trip... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, webfact said: Subsequently, Thalerngsak reported the theft to the Paris police. It was discovered later that the mother’s credit card was used to purchase goods worth approximately 300,000 baht. Where was the purchase made? Any CCTV of the person using the card and time of purchase? Does it stand-up to what they say. Or is it just a scam to get insurance to cover the cost of the holiday? 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 56 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said: So he did not cancel the credit cards until after they had been used? Surely, any normal person would cancel the card immediately after the theft. yes when thefts actually occur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bradiston Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 From The Thaiger article: "Thalerngsak contacted the Thai embassy for advice. The embassy spoke to the supposed police officers and informed Thalerngsak that they were not actual officers. However, fearing for the safety of his mother and aunt, he negotiated and gave them 60 euros, which he claimed was all the money he had left." This doesn't add up at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, hotchilli said: Where was the purchase made? Any CCTV of the person using the card and time of purchase? Does it stand-up to what they say. Or is it just a scam to get insurance to cover the cost of the holiday? would be interesting to know the state of their business back in thailand ? how is the restaurant making out ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, smedly said: you would think he'd be well aware of scams considering where he lives, the EU has been invaded by thieves and scamers in recent years so a warning is not unwarranted Because they let everybody in, especially from the middle east.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French mate Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 This repport dont look geniune to me. He combine a real stroke of very bad luck, unlikely event and a great deal of reapeted gullibility to not say stupidity. - Your bag with your credit card got snached, and you dont think to tell your bank about it? -> stupid - Fake policeman: this is a very serious offence in France, and doing that in the train where their have camera everywhere for try to collect fine from tourist wont get you far. -> unlikely to have happen like they said if happen at all. - They park the car a 100 m from a tourist spot and come back from the petrol station ??? was they going to visit the tourist spot or was taking a break in the petrol station who always have is own parking? In both case anyway you never leave your value in a parked car, even less in a place where many people come and go. -> gullibility. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritScot Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 hours ago, stoner said: also this story is all kinds of strange. all of these events happened to this single family on 1 holiday ? first - robbed on a train second - extorted on a train third - car broken into and subsequently robbed again fourth - ya i don't buy this BS at all. aaaaaaaaand the story just happens to come out right after TAT boasts about local tourism. now i know i am a stoner and all but i am also a trained customs and immigration officer. this story has red flags galore. just saying. All that quite often happens to tourists in Thailand. My advice to this family "Don't buy any lotto or raffle tickets for a while". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, BritScot said: All that quite often happens to tourists in Thailand. My advice to this family "Don't buy any lotto or raffle tickets for a while". sure on separate holidays span over a decade. all three of those events in a single holiday though ? and as another commenter pointed out impersonating an officer is a very serious crime in the west. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyB Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: So he did not cancel the credit cards until after they had been used? Surely, any normal person would cancel the card immediately after the theft. Best to keep practical but tight daily spending limits on all cards and adjust ad hoc for the odd, rare larger purchase or withdrawal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 I'll bet after all the thefts, scams and shenanigan's he felt like he hadn't even left Thailand. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 All very possible for those not used to travelling in foreign climes, and Thais are generally polite and obliging by default (and typically decent middle class and up folks holidaying overseas), so easy pickings for thieving scum. Paris is a bit of a hole like that and has only gotten worse with the massive influx of undesirables--no, I understand they're not all bad, but many pile in to do this kind of thing. Guess they won't be going to froggyland again for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: So he did not cancel the credit cards until after they had been used? Surely, any normal person would cancel the card immediately after the theft. my immediate thoughts also .... if your wallet is stolen or a bag or anything with CC's, passport or doc's .... you would call the bank, embassy and whoever straight away, not wait until it's used or a day later. very strange story .... I'm calling it suspicious ... Edited December 13, 2023 by steven100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 hours ago, stoner said: also this story is all kinds of strange. all of these events happened to this single family on 1 holiday ? first - robbed on a train second - extorted on a train third - car broken into and subsequently robbed again fourth - ya i don't buy this BS at all. aaaaaaaaand the story just happens to come out right after TAT boasts about local tourism. now i know i am a stoner and all but i am also a trained customs and immigration officer. this story has red flags galore. just saying. I'm surprised that this hasn't yet happened to georgiageorgia, aka georgie porgie puddin' & pie.🙃🙃 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Shuya said: If the credit card was stolen, it will cost them nothing. If they payed 500 Euro as a fine / bribe / scam, thats 20'000 THB. Nowhere near the 600'000 THB they claim. Sounds more like a scam from their side. Read the article !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 They negotiated the fine, yer sure in France. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidneyw Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 At least they did not lose any gold to a katoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celsius Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 6 hours ago, stoner said: also this story is all kinds of strange. all of these events happened to this single family on 1 holiday ? first - robbed on a train second - extorted on a train third - car broken into and subsequently robbed again fourth - ya i don't buy this BS at all. aaaaaaaaand the story just happens to come out right after TAT boasts about local tourism. now i know i am a stoner and all but i am also a trained customs and immigration officer. this story has red flags galore. just saying. Maybe.....just maybe.....and bear with me for a moment.....the whole family was stoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, stoner said: also this story is all kinds of strange. all of these events happened to this single family on 1 holiday ? first - robbed on a train second - extorted on a train third - car broken into and subsequently robbed again fourth - ya i don't buy this BS at all. aaaaaaaaand the story just happens to come out right after TAT boasts about local tourism. now i know i am a stoner and all but i am also a trained customs and immigration officer. this story has red flags galore. just saying. i'm with you on this one buddy .... just too much information. warning warning !! danger Will Robinson ! does not compute !! request to fire !! Edited December 13, 2023 by steven100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Celsius said: Maybe.....just maybe.....and bear with me for a moment.....the whole family was stoned. did you come up with that all on your ownsome ? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnet1900 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 7 hours ago, bradiston said: From The Thaiger article: "Thalerngsak contacted the Thai embassy for advice. The embassy spoke to the supposed police officers and informed Thalerngsak that they were not actual officers. However, fearing for the safety of his mother and aunt, he negotiated and gave them 60 euros, which he claimed was all the money he had left." This doesn't add up at all. It adds up if you're Thai. Thai sib story plus money equals complete scams, cheating and lies. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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