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23 minutes ago, oustaristocrats said:

1 Taiwanese rather than 20 Chinese I mean of course

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Thailand's faultering economy has been a self-inflicted wound.

Thailand exports of goods and services (G&S) in % of GDP in 2012 was about 69%.

2013 was marred by massive street anti-democratic (demand unconstitutional change in government by other than election) protests aimed at regime change through disruption/shutdown of many government functions to somewhat lower G&S to about 67%.

Following the May 2014 military coup GDP for G&S rose to about 68%, likely due to pro-military Street protests to back off their disruption of government functions.

Then the junta apparently redirected the Thai economy focused more on Chinese tourism, causing (perhaps impacted by the Covid pandemic) by a steep decline by 2020 GDP for G&S to about 21%. 

https://wits.worldbank.org

Exports of G&S in 2022 was about 66%.

By 2023Q3 fell 0.23%. In any case no recovery to the 2012 level with substantial increase in public debt.

Compare now the new 2023 government's economic priorities: tourism, more debt and long-term infrastructure.

The government needs more GDP innovation and action in the G&S sectors. Such needs may not agree with China.

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1 hour ago, oustaristocrats said:

 

Yes, but they do so in Chinese owned guest houses, Chinese owned restaurants, transportation companies with Chinese roots and worse Chinese managed gambling houses. The few independent you mention are backpackers who dare to go alone, they are the exceptions from the thousands and thousands you have seen at Suvarnabhumi airport, you probably remember, one lady, mostly red dress in the front, long flag in the air, then dozens following in a straight line, like in the army.  They do need even dare to leave a gap in the row, these people will never go alone.  The few backpackers do exist, but they go on a limited budget.

Thank you for educating this lost person the Chinese only use there own kind and all that money goes straight back to China nothing much for Thais, they waste everyone's ones sitting behind buses and blocking out 7/11s everywhere. 

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3 hours ago, DjSilver said:

I want to see a total amount of tourists that is less than during the lockdown in Thailand.

 

I believe Thailand and the Thai people needs to learn not to scam foreigners, or they will pay deeply for it.

 

What you want is not relevant.

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1 hour ago, oustaristocrats said:

 

Yes, but they do so in Chinese owned guest houses, Chinese owned restaurants, transportation companies with Chinese roots and worse Chinese managed gambling houses. The few independent you mention are backpackers who dare to go alone, they are the exceptions from the thousands and thousands you have seen at Suvarnabhumi airport, you probably remember, one lady, mostly red dress in the front, long flag in the air, then dozens following in a straight line, like in the army.  They do need even dare to leave a gap in the row, these people will never go alone.  The few backpackers do exist, but they go on a limited budget.

     Sorry, your information is incorrect.  You're simply repeating false information you have read, or incorrect tidbits picked up here or there, along with your false observations.  In the latter, you see a number of groups being lead by someone with a flag, and you think, all Chinese travel in tours.  Incorrect.  And, they may not even be from China; they could be from Korea or Taiwan.  Of course, a big group is far more visible than a couple traveling, or three or four friends traveling, but perception is not always reality.

   As I said in my earlier post, the majority of the Chinese tourists in 2019 were independent travelers and, no, they were not 6 million backpackers.  6 million, by the way, is not, as you say, a 'few independent' travelers, it's a lot.  Like far more than the visitors from any other country. 

    Chinese tourists spent 543 billion baht in Thailand in 2019 and, once again no, the 543 billion did not end up back in China, no matter what so and so says.  Had that been the case, why would Thailand be trying so hard to get the Chinese back?  If there's no money in it, why make the effort?  This is not brain surgery.

    

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1 hour ago, khunjeff said:

 

"Chinese tourists now prefer to travel independently. Currently, up to 90% of Chinese tourists entering Thailand are Free Independent Travellers (FIT), while the market for Chinese tour groups accounts for only 10%."

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/tourism/40028934

Interesting.  In 2019 it was 60% of the Chinese traveling independently, and not in tour groups.

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6 hours ago, oustaristocrats said:

 

Yes, but they do so in Chinese owned guest houses, Chinese owned restaurants, transportation companies with Chinese roots and worse Chinese managed gambling houses. The few independent you mention are backpackers who dare to go alone, they are the exceptions from the thousands and thousands you have seen at Suvarnabhumi airport, you probably remember, one lady, mostly red dress in the front, long flag in the air, then dozens following in a straight line, like in the army.  They do need even dare to leave a gap in the row, these people will never go alone.  The few backpackers do exist, but they go on a limited budget.

These zero dollar tours were happening with Chinese tourists in Australia also,before the pandemic.I don't know if it's  still happening,or even what the state of Chinese tourism to Australia is these days

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