Who could replace Biden ?

[nobodysfriend]

He is too old .

And  he made big mistakes recently .

I am afraid that Trump might win ...

Blinken could , may be , do the job ?

Or Kamala Harris ?

Need a younger one if the dems want to win .

[allane]

I am not American, so maybe I should not be commenting. For whatever it is worth, I agree. Some person(s) in the Democratic party need to help or persuade Biden to find a graceful exit.   In terms of a possible replacement, no one seems to be suggesting Kamala Harris as a possible replacement.  This would be the normal alternative, and the fact that she is almost never mentioned is a huge slap in the face to her.

[retarius]

16 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

He is too old .

And  he made big mistakes recently .

I am afraid that Trump might win ...

Blinken could , may be , do the job ?

Or Kamala Harris ?

Need a younger one if the dems want to win .

Blinken? That lying, warmongering, mealy-mouthed, so-called diplomat? I don't think so. 

Kamala the Laughing Hyena, I don't think so. 

People talk about Newsom, but far from making California Great Again he is killing it off. Many more people are leaving the state than coming to it. Soon, like Illinois, this exodus will start hitting the local tax base.

Who else? Just a bunch of woke losers that's all.

They could exhume Hillary Hillary and give her another losing run out.

Trump's the man I hope, America has no chance without Trump. Biden has driven it into the ground. 

[FritsSikkink]

Michelle Obama

[Trippy]

Joe Manchin

 

We need someone that is more middle of the road than extreme either way.

[Screaming]

I think almost anyone could replace him and do a better job.

 

[UWEB]

34 minutes ago, retarius said:

Blinken? That lying, warmongering, mealy-mouthed, so-called diplomat? I don't think so. 

Kamala the Laughing Hyena, I don't think so. 

People talk about Newsom, but far from making California Great Again he is killing it off. Many more people are leaving the state than coming to it. Soon, like Illinois, this exodus will start hitting the local tax base.

Who else? Just a bunch of woke losers that's all.

They could exhume Hillary Hillary and give her another losing run out.

Trump's the man I hope, America has no chance without Trump. Biden has driven it into the ground. 

So you like a criminal as President?

[KhunLA]

Except for these 5 ex presidents:

... Jimmy Carter, 39th U.S. President.

... Bill Clinton, 42nd U.S. President.

... George W. Bush, 43rd U.S. President.

... Barack Obama, 44th U.S. President.

... Donald Trump, 45th U.S. President.

 

anyone of the other ex presidents could do as poorly and certainly not any worse of a job than biden ... 

[bamnutsak]

In no particular order:

 

Gavin Newsom

Gretchen Whitmer

J,B. Pritzker

Josh Shapiro

Amy Klobuchar

Pete Buttigieg

 

 

 

 

[GypsyT]

It's very sad there's nobody.

 

Non "normal" sane person will not go through mean and nasty election process.

 

 

[Jingthing]

19 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

In no particular order:

 

Gavin Newsom

Gretchen Whitmer

J,B. Pritzker

Josh Shapiro

Amy Klobuchar

Pete Buttigieg

 

 

 

 

A realistic list but back to reality:

 

Biden is old BUT

 

He's the incumbent

He's objectively had a successful first term

The economy is in great shape even though the people don't perceive that (very low unemployment, recession avoided, stock market booming, inflation under control)

Historically no incumbent in such a position wouldn't run (and they would usually win)

Trump is on the path to be nominated and Biden beat him before

Biden has hinted he might exit if it isn't trump, but it looks like it will be trump

 

Yes, things could change.

Trump could be in jail.

Either candidate's health could fall apart.

 

But as it stands now, dream on, Biden is running.

 

 

 

[thaicurious]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

"THE BIDEN-HARRISRECORD

When President Biden and Vice President Harris took office, our country faced unprecedented crises - a raging pandemic, economic crisis, climate crisis, and racial injustice. The President and Vice President ran for office on the promise to move quickly to tackle these crises head-on and deliver results for working families. That’s what the Biden-Harris Administration has done.

 

TOP ACCOMPLISHMENTS

Lowering Costs of Families’ Everyday Expenses

More People Are Working Than At Any Point in American History

Making More in America

Rescued the Economy and Changed the Course of the Pandemic

Rebuilding our Infrastructure

Historic Expansion of Benefits and Services for Toxic Exposed Veterans

The First Meaningful Gun Violence Reduction Legislation in 30 Years

Protected Marriage for LGBTQI+ and Interracial Couples

Historic Confirmation of Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson and Federal Judges of Diverse Backgrounds

Rallied the World to Support Ukraine in Response to Putin’s Aggression

Strengthened Alliances and Partnerships to Deliver for the American People

Successful Counterterrorism Missions Against the Leaders of Al Qaeda and ISIS

Executive Orders Protecting Reproductive Rights

Historic Student Debt Relief for Middle- and Working-Class Families

Ending our Failed Approach to Marijuana

Advancing Equity and Racial Justice, Including Historic Criminal Justice Reform

Delivering on the Most Aggressive Climate and Environmental Justice Agenda in American History

More People with Health Insurance Than Ever Before

 

OK, now you guys list what you've done in your 70s.

[impulse]

On 1/17/2024 at 7:13 PM, thaicurious said:

 

OK, now you guys list what you've done in your 70s

 

Not quite into my 70's yet, but I didn't spend trillions of dollars and I didn't break the southern border and allow in millions and millions of unvetted illegals with no idea who they are, their criminal histories, where they're from, what ailments they're bringing with them, or what their employment prospects are.

The effect of both of those are likely to linger for years, maybe even decades.

 

 

[mikebike]

On 1/17/2024 at 2:28 PM, Jingthing said:

A realistic list but back to reality:

 

Biden is old BUT

 

He's the incumbent

He's objectively had a successful first term

The economy is in great shape even though the people don't perceive that (very low unemployment, recession avoided, stock market booming, inflation under control)

Historically no incumbent in such a position wouldn't run (and they would usually win)

Trump is on the path to be nominated and Biden beat him before

Biden has hinted he might exit if it isn't trump, but it looks like it will be trump

 

Yes, things could change.

Trump could be in jail.

Either candidate's health could fall apart.

 

But as it stands now, dream on, Biden is running.

 

 

 

He has been BETTER than I expected. 

 

But. 

 

He delivered LITTLE of what he ran on. 

 

AND

 

 He ran on being TRANSITIONAL

 

45 sucked and should never be allowed near the levers of power again. But 46 aint no jewel in America's crown. There are better candidates out there. Get over your fear. 

[novacova]

On 1/16/2024 at 5:06 PM, nobodysfriend said:

I am afraid that Trump might win

Good. Hope the fear comes true, given that fear is usually a self fulfilling prophecy.

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, mikebike said:

He has been BETTER than I expected. 

 

But. 

 

He delivered LITTLE of what he ran on. 

 

AND

 

 He ran on being TRANSITIONAL

 

45 sucked and should never be allowed near the levers of power again. But 46 aint no jewel in America's crown. There are better candidates out there. Get over your fear. 

Why are you addressing me?

Talk to Biden.

He's running so that's who we've got against Trump.

It's beyond the time where there will be an alternative.

DId I personally ever say I wouldn't prefer an alternative?

You're living in the past.

[KhunLA]

On 1/17/2024 at 2:16 PM, GypsyT said:

It's very sad there's nobody.

 

Non "normal" sane person will not go through mean and nasty election process.

Anyone actually qualified, wouldn't bother to take that large a pay cut, and don't need to enhance their finance as most seem to do by becoming president.

 

Net worth before & after Presidency (source ???):

Donald Trump

Before: $3 billion

After: $2.3 billion

 

Barack Obama

Before: $1.3 million

After: $70 million

 

George W. Bush

Before: $20 million

After: $40 million

 

Bill Clinton

Before: $1.3 million

After: $241.5 million

 

George H.W. Bush

Before: $4 million

After: $23 million

 

 

[jas007]

Biden may be the president, but not really. Clearly, others are now running the country.  As for who could replace him on the ticket? Is Hillary still interested?  It would be fun to watch her lose again. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, jas007 said:

Biden may be the president, but not really. Clearly, others are now running the country.  As for who could replace him on the ticket? Is Hillary still interested?  It would be fun to watch her lose again. 

 

 

How ridiculous.

Of course Biden is the president. REALLY. To say he isn't is crazy maga propaganda.

Nobody is going to replace him on the ticket.

No Hillary is out of the question even if she was interested.

This isn't about your fun, buddy.

[couchpotato]

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Biden may be the president, but not really. Clearly, others are now running the country.  As for who could replace him on the ticket? Is Hillary still interested?  It would be fun to watch her lose again. 

 

 

Taylor Swift.

[jas007]

My fun?  It is fun. That’s sad, but you can’t say it isn’t fun to watch.

 

Anyway, Biden is obviously not making any real decisions.  He can’t even find his way off stage without someone leading him.  

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

My fun?  It is fun. That’s sad, but you can’t say it isn’t fun to watch.

 

Anyway, Biden is obviously not making any real decisions.  He can’t even find his way off stage without someone leading him.  

Just propaganda. 

[mogandave]

How about Ilhan Omar or AOC? They seem really smart for Democrats. 

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

I think the main issue is which politician from the DEMs would anybody in the MAGA crowd vote for?

And that is a serious problem. I have no insider knowledge from those MAGAs but I find it hard to believe that they would vote for any DEM.

 

So, yes, Biden is not good, but who would convince any of those 70,000,000 Trumpers to vote DEMs?

 

I know the numbers look bad. But I would love to see a third-party candidate win. Then maybe, maybe the two parties would start to realize that it's time for them to listen to the people and not only to their rich donors - or should I call them investors?

[jas007]

I wouldn’t vote for a Democrat at this point, mainly because they aren’t real Democrats any more.  They lost the plot somewhere along the way.  At this point, they’ve simply scary.  Authoritarian war mongers, and that’s to put it politely. And so I would vote for Trump, simply to oppose the Democrats.  
 

What’s wrong with RFK Jr?  He makes more sense than either Biden or Trump.  The day he announced his candidacy, I donated money.  If he wins, great.  If he takes votes away from Biden, great.  Either way, it’s a win.  

[Jingthing]

26 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I wouldn’t vote for a Democrat at this point, mainly because they aren’t real Democrats any more.  They lost the plot somewhere along the way.  At this point, they’ve simply scary.  Authoritarian war mongers, and that’s to put it politely. And so I would vote for Trump, simply to oppose the Democrats.  
 

What’s wrong with RFK Jr?  He makes more sense than either Biden or Trump.  The day he announced his candidacy, I donated money.  If he wins, great.  If he takes votes away from Biden, great.  Either way, it’s a win.  

Uh oh!

RFK Jr. Poll Spells Disaster for Donald Trump (newsweek.com)

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think the main issue is which politician from the DEMs would anybody in the MAGA crowd vote for?

And that is a serious problem. I have no insider knowledge from those MAGAs but I find it hard to believe that they would vote for any DEM.

 

So, yes, Biden is not good, but who would convince any of those 70,000,000 Trumpers to vote DEMs?

 

I know the numbers look bad. But I would love to see a third-party candidate win. Then maybe, maybe the two parties would start to realize that it's time for them to listen to the people and not only to their rich donors - or should I call them investors?

You're being silly.

It's not about converting magas.

They are a minority.

It's about getting out the vote of everyone else!

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

How about Ilhan Omar or AOC? They seem really smart for Democrats. 

 

 

How about Marjorie Greene for the Putin party?

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

I wouldn’t vote for a Democrat at this point, mainly because they aren’t real Democrats any more.  They lost the plot somewhere along the way.  At this point, they’ve simply scary.  Authoritarian war mongers, and that’s to put it politely. And so I would vote for Trump, simply to oppose the Democrats.  
 

What’s wrong with RFK Jr?  He makes more sense than either Biden or Trump.  The day he announced his candidacy, I donated money.  If he wins, great.  If he takes votes away from Biden, great.  Either way, it’s a win.  

And how about the GOP? Are they still the conservatives with conservative values? Or are 90% of them Trump fanboys and/or scared of losing their jobs.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And how about the GOP? Are they still the conservatives with conservative values? Or are 90% of them Trump fanboys and/or scared of losing their jobs.

Magas are not conservative.

Magas are a cult of personality of Donald Trump.

They don't have an ideology except to follow whatever Trump is saying at the moment.