Morch Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 32 minutes ago, Voodoochile said: Best way to get a fresh new start for anything is to “wipe” it clean and build/breed again from scratch. 100% percent behind Israel on this. That's not really Israel's position, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 29 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Which of these 2 numbers is larger than the other do you think? 1. UNHCR assistance for humanitarian causes provided by voluntary donor nations. 2. Qatari funds designed to help Hamas build itself into a military force? By how much? At a guess? Bonus question. Which is most likely to be audited? 1 or 2? @ozimoron You made a comment you cannot back up in any factual or meaningful way. Rather than admit it, or even ignore it and go on, you dig deeper. You stated something as fact. Now you're asking others to 'guess'. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochile Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Morch said: That's not really Israel's position, though. Not officially🤫 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 hours ago, Voodoochile said: Not officially🤫 That is obviously not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochile Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 11 hours ago, Morch said: That is obviously not true. Ok, can please explain what makes it so “obvious” ? since they apparently don’t care about humanitarian organizations or other countries opinions that consider what they are doing to be excessive. Edited January 21 by Voodoochile 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 51 minutes ago, Voodoochile said: Ok, can please explain what makes it so “obvious” ? since they apparently don’t care about humanitarian organizations or other countries opinions that consider what they are doing to be excessive. That was what you posted: Quote Best way to get a fresh new start for anything is to “wipe” it clean and build/breed again from scratch. 100% percent behind Israel on this. This is not what's happening, this is not Israel's policy. If it was the Palestinian death toll would be way way higher, and there would be far less IDF casualties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochile Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 12 hours ago, Morch said: That was what you posted: This is not what's happening, this is not Israel's policy. If it was the Palestinian death toll would be way way higher, and there would be far less IDF casualties. Yes I know exactly what I posted thanks, And I don’t see any contradictions. “Best way to get a fresh new start for anything is to “wipe” it clean and build/breed again from scratch.” Is my personal opinion “100% percent behind Israel on this.” means that even if there is a lost generation of Palestinians and weather it is Israels goal or not I am 100% percent behind them what ever there decision to continue attacking be it measured or not. “Palestinian death toll would be way higher” Death toll is climbing everyday, the conflict is not over. like I said before if it is Israel goal to completely wipe out Palestine they are obviously not going to come flat out and say it (officially) and drop a nuke or any other weapon of mass destruction on them for at least one good reason And that being the uproar(at least official) it would cause in the international community , humanitarian institutions, but especially from other Muslim nations that support the Palestine and its anti Israeli views which would very likely create even more hostility and hatred towards Israel resulting in more attacks on them. they would have to choose the long way to achieve this and it is not impossible that is why I do not agree with the fact that you find this is “obviously” not the case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 A member of Israel’s War Cabinet, former army chief Gadi Eisenkot, said last week that the only way to free the remaining hostages was through a cease-fire. In an implicit criticism of Netanyahu, he said claims to the contrary amounted to “illusions.” Hamas has said it will not free more hostages until Israel ends its offensive. https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-01-21-2024-02caafa092668ecc7ff122229c166807 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Voodoochile said: Ok, can please explain what makes it so “obvious” ? since they apparently don’t care about humanitarian organizations or other countries opinions that consider what they are doing to be excessive. Israel is an independent Nation and doe what it sees fit , just like all other Countries . No other Country in the World does what other Countries tell them to do, so why should Israel ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Work In Progress. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochile Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 6 hours ago, Ben Zioner said: Work In Progress. 😁Keep up the good work👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/20/2024 at 6:56 PM, animalmagic said: The UN has spent billions on the development of Gaza. It would have been good if they had paid attention to where the money was being spent. Extensive tunnel networks like that require specialist materials and equipment; a regular check on the construction expenditure would have shown disproportionate amounts being spent on 'foundations'. There is probably less concrete above ground than below it! There is probably less concrete above ground than below it! Don't be ridiculous. the concrete above ground is clearly visible in any photos of Gaza cities, though apparently most of it is now rubble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 9 hours ago, Voodoochile said: Yes I know exactly what I posted thanks, And I don’t see any contradictions. “Best way to get a fresh new start for anything is to “wipe” it clean and build/breed again from scratch.” Is my personal opinion With opinions like that from the israeli side is it any wonder Hamas wants to do that exact same thing to israelis? If one goes around proclaiming that all of Gaza should be wiped clean of Palestinians, one can't complain if the opposition want to do the same thing to israelis. It amazes me how many israeli supporters think it's wrong for Palestinians to defend themselves against israeli oppression, illegal land theft, murder, destruction of infrastructure and collective punishment. Edited January 21 by thaibeachlovers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: There is probably less concrete above ground than below it! Don't be ridiculous. the concrete above ground is clearly visible in any photos of Gaza cities, though apparently most of it is now rubble. There was a touch of sarcasm you missed there. However he was not far wrong..............the concrete and resources needed for below ground was massive. "This is where Hamas held hostages. IDF soldiers operated in a tunnel located at the heart of a civilian area in Khan Yunis that was used to hold about 20 hostages at different times. The tunnel was about 830 meters long and about 20 meters deep. We cannot and will not rest knowing innocent civilians are being held in compounds like this one. We will not stop operating until we bring the hostages home." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: There is probably less concrete above ground than below it! Don't be ridiculous. the concrete above ground is clearly visible in any photos of Gaza cities, though apparently most of it is now rubble. I wouldn't take everything you read too literally! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: With opinions like that from the israeli side is it any wonder Hamas wants to do that exact same thing to israelis? I do think that he's just pretending to support Israel and he's really pro Palestinian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I see the poster you quoted to is resorting to the same BS insults that anyone that doesn't support israel bombing the infrastructure to smithereens and killing thousands of defenseless people is a Hamas sympathiser. I couldn't be bothered to keep reporting them, so I put the ones that like to insult on ignore. Not all of them resort to petty insults though, so I still see their posts. Your last sentence is entirely appropriate IMO, though I wouldn't have included a "please". Crash and burn. Too funny. Read the exchange, understand the context. You're cheer-leading someone ever more extreme than those you wrongly label 'extreme'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: With opinions like that from the israeli side is it any wonder Hamas wants to do that exact same thing to israelis? If one goes around proclaiming that all of Gaza should be wiped clean of Palestinians, one can't complain if the opposition want to do the same thing to israelis. It amazes me how many israeli supporters think it's wrong for Palestinians to defend themselves against israeli oppression, illegal land theft, murder, destruction of infrastructure and collective punishment. By your reasoning, Israel may do unto the Palestinians whatever, because they hold such extreme views. But, of course, you allow this to apply only in a one-sided manner. Guess your argument would be 'not all the Palestinians' or something.... As for the poster representing anything, maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Being a newcomer to these topics, it's kinda hard to tell if he's genuine nutter or a troll. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Inflammatory posts and replies contravening our Community Standards have been removed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 14 hours ago, Voodoochile said: Ok, can please explain what makes it so “obvious” ? since they apparently don’t care about humanitarian organizations or other countries opinions that consider what they are doing to be excessive. Exactly. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Voodoochile Posted January 22 Popular Post Share Posted January 22 (edited) 14 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: With opinions like that from the israeli side is it any wonder Hamas wants to do that exact same thing to israelis? If one goes around proclaiming that all of Gaza should be wiped clean of Palestinians, one can't complain if the opposition want to do the same thing to israelis. It amazes me how many israeli supporters think it's wrong for Palestinians to defend themselves against israeli oppression, illegal land theft, murder, destruction of infrastructure and collective punishment. Palestinians defend themselves through a terrorist organization using terrorist tactics Israeli forces are a democratic nations army, they do not rape, torture, put babies in ovens etc. Palestinian schools teach children from a very young age to hate Israel and that they must be eliminated. Israeli schools do not. it amazes me that some people can even compare the two. if you prefer to support a terrorism at least have the balls to say it out loud. Edited January 22 by Voodoochile 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Voodoochile said: Palestinians defend themselves through a terrorist organization using terrorist tactics Israeli forces are a democratic nations army, they do not rape, torture, put babies in ovens etc. Palestinian schools teach children from a very young age to hate Israel and that they must be eliminated. Israeli schools do not. it amazes me that some people can even compare the two. if you prefer to support a terrorism at least have the balls to say it out loud. Evidently some Israelis must have taught themselves if the schools didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Voodoochile said: Forging your own opinion about a something is different then being taught something (brainwashed) from childhood. Of course the Palestinians are incapable of forming their own opinions in the way Israelis can. Utterly racist stereotyping. Edited January 22 by ozimoron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochile Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, ozimoron said: Of course the Palestinians are incapable of forming their own opinions in the way Israelis can. Someone who is taught something repetitively from a very young age has obviously been influenced and therefore it is more difficult (they are less capable) to form their own opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Voodoochile said: Someone who is taught something repetitively from a very young age has obviously been influenced and therefore it is more difficult (they are less capable) to form their own opinions. Netanyahu has been preaching divide and conquer for almost a generation. It doesn't get much more hateful than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Of course the Palestinians are incapable of forming their own opinions in the way Israelis can. Utterly racist stereotyping. You are of course correct.... Palestinians are conditioned to hate and kill Israelis and that is not racist but fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Netanyahu has been preaching divide and conquer for almost a generation. It doesn't get much more hateful than that. Oh how wrong you are. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Oh how wrong you are. I just posted a quote from 2019 proving that divide and conquer has always been Netanyahu's policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I just posted a quote from 2019 proving that divide and conquer has always been Netanyahu's policy. Like I said, how wrong you are, 13 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Netanyahu has been preaching divide and conquer for almost a generation. It doesn't get much more hateful than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted January 22 Popular Post Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Irrelevant. The policy was not benign. Indeed, everything is irrelevant when the extermination of the Jews is at stake, yes? 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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