Giving up

[4MyEgo]

On 5/5/2024 at 11:40 AM, KhunHeineken said:

Weren't you the one that begged me to "come out and play" and boasted how you "shamed me" and I left with my "tail between my legs." 

 

For someone who believes their "interpretation" is right, and everyone else's is wrong, you have been quiet lately.  I guess that's out of embarrassment. 

 

The shame is all yours, as you never admitted you were wrong, because of your ego.

 

Everyone agrees with my interpretation except you.

 

Been quiet lately because I have been away enjoying the coast with my lovely wife, no embarrassment here, I cross my T's and dot my i's.

 

Your are absolutely no fun at all.

[KhunHeineken]

11 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

The shame is all yours, as you never admitted you were wrong, because of your ego.

 

Everyone agrees with my interpretation except you.

 

Been quiet lately because I have been away enjoying the coast with my lovely wife, no embarrassment here, I cross my T's and dot my i's.

 

Your are absolutely no fun at all.

Article 18 relies on the Provisions of Article 19.  When I asked for your "interpretation" of the Provisions, your reply was, and I quote, "Forget about Article 19."  It's laughable.  I merely said I would like to research more on the Provisions of Article 19, and their effect on Article 18. 

 

It wouldn't matter how many people on here agree with your interpretation, it's how the law is applied, and the way the ATO and Court/s implement that law. 

 

"Forget about Article 19" isn't exactly "crossing T's and dotting I's" is it? 

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

12 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

I enjoy the comforts of the house that I had built on my wife's land for us to enjoy, I also purchased the land for her, we have lived in her house for about a decade now.

I enjoy the same comforts, if not more, in my condo, which is near the beach, not in a rural Issan village.  Location location. 

 

You are the one that suggested I had been stung before, yet you are the one at risk, not me. 

 

12 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

I knew exactly what I was getting into, you see, here I own nothing, but had I done this back in my home country, she would be entitled to at least 50%, that's 50% of what it would cost me to build back there, e.g. $1,000,000, then there's the land, another $1,500,000, so here, she gets the 100%, the house which costs me 2,000,000 baht, the land 120,000 baht back in the day, and the car 800,000 baht, which I could have put in my name because I have a yellow book, but why bother, it's all chumps change. So I think I have done very well considering.

You are justifying your actions by stating the affordability of rural land, and construction in Thailand. 

 

The fact still remains that you have exposed yourself to being "stung" and I have not, but then you seem to think I have been. 

 

Your posts about how you have a caveat on the property etc etc was just great entertainment from you.  It gave me a good laugh. 

 

12 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Tomorrow if needed, I could walk away easily, you see I only invest as much as I am prepared to lose, plan B will lead me to 90% of my assets which are overseas.

 

If I ever did leave my wife, which will never happen, or visa a versa, I will feel more than comfortable knowing I left her something, and would also continue to support her financially, you see there is this thing called love, and unfortunately most people just go on in life not finding it, they think they had it, but it all went south because they never had it, it's a bit like those people that don't admit that they are wrong, they never learn.

 

Yet, some of us simply don't "invest" here, so stand to lose nothing.  The money for the purchase price of my condo is making more of a return for me back in Australia than the monthly rent costs me.  The monthly rent is well worth having no property and maintenance costs, and the freedom to move should I want to / need to. 

 

It might be different if the rent was depleting my asset portfolio at a rapid rate, but it's not.  Condo owners cringe when they see more and more development because it negatively effects the value of their condo.  I smile because it's not only keeping rents low, but also driving rents down.   

 

A nice little story about love, but time and priorities, as well as health and family can change.  Sometimes slowly, and sometimes in a split second. Who knows about tomorrow?  Maybe one of her family members accrues big gambling debts, or gets locked up, and she has to sell the house.  Maybe someone in the family gets sick and needs an expensive life saving operation and she sells the house.  As mentioned previously, maybe she dies before you.  Anything can happen.  Yet, you post here how the house is yours because you can put a caveat on it.  

 

The question whether she would have still "loved" you had you not bought her land and a house is for another thread, but most would agree that had you not, you probably wouldn't be together right now.  Not exactly a solid foundation for a relationship, yet, you want to preach on here about "love." 

Edited May 7 by KhunHeineken

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

I enjoy the same comforts, if not more, in my condo, which is near the beach, not in a rural Issan village.  Location location. 

 

You are the one that suggested I had been stung before, yet you are the one at risk, not me. 

 

You are justifying your actions by stating the affordability of rural land, and construction in Thailand. 

 

The fact still remains that you have exposed yourself to being "stung" and I have not, but then you seem to think I have been. 

 

Your posts about how you have a caveat on the property etc etc was just great entertainment from you.  It gave me a good laugh. 

 

Yet, some of us simply don't "invest" here, so stand to lose nothing.  The money for the purchase price of my condo is making more of a return for me back in Australia than the monthly rent costs me.  The monthly rent is well worth having no property and maintenance costs, and the freedom to move should I want to / need to. 

 

It might be different if the rent was depleting my asset portfolio at a rapid rate, but it's not.  Condo owners cringe when they see more and more development because it negatively effects the value of their condo.  I smile because it's not only keeping rents low, but also driving rents down.   

 

A nice little story about love, but time and priorities, as well as health and family can change.  Sometimes slowly, and sometimes in a split second. Who knows about tomorrow?  Maybe one of her family members accrues big gambling debts, or gets locked up, and she has to sell the house.  Maybe someone in the family gets sick and needs an expensive life saving operation and she sells the house.  As mentioned previously, maybe she dies before you.  Anything can happen.  Yet, you post here how the house is yours because you can put a caveat on it.  

 

The question whether she would have still "loved" you had you not bought her land and a house is for another thread, but most would agree that had you not, you probably wouldn't be together right now.  Not exactly a solid foundation for a relationship, yet, you want to preach on here about "love." 

I agree with you, keep your hands on your cash.

Although I did give mine a 15% deposit on a house, and make the 10kbht monthly repayments.

But maybe 4MyEgo's 3mbht is nothing to him, as was the 300kbht I risked on mine.

I couldn't afford to drop 3Mbht all that often.

[Celsius]

I wish i had 30,000 baht

[4MyEgo]

23 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

I enjoy the same comforts, if not more, in my condo, which is near the beach, not in a rural Issan village.  Location location. 

 

Well good for you, I would suggest that it all depends where you want to live and, you have chosen to live in a condo building with others, which is near the beach, as opposed to a rural Issan village, nothing wrong with either, just depends on your preferences.

 

You might enjoy having people living above you, or below you and or to your side in your condo, you may also like living in built up areas, whereas I don't.

 

It's a matter of choice, for me, I can't live in a condo, a villa or a townhouse, nor can I live with neighbor's to close to me, i.e. I don't have neighbors to either side for at least 50 metres, no neighbors behind me or across the road, it's very private and quiet and, I don't want to see people unless I want to, i.e. when I feel like socialising, or when I go shopping, call me a hermit if you like, but that is my preference, and I have lived in condo's, villa's and townhouses, they are not for me, hence the reason I decided for rural living, regardless if I don't own it or rent it or whatever.

 

Rural living is for people who don't want to live in built up areas, and built up areas are for those who want to live in built up areas, simple really, I do believe you said, location, location, that would mean rural for me and built up for you.

 

23 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

You are the one that suggested I had been stung before, yet you are the one at risk, not me

 

No risk, so don't try to suggest that there is, as stated before, I invested what I am prepared to lose.

 

23 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

You are justifying your actions by stating the affordability of rural land, and construction in Thailand. 

 

You obviously didn't get what I was saying, so I am not going to try to explain it again to you because I know you are the type that just doesn't get it.

 

23 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

The fact still remains that you have exposed yourself to being "stung" and I have not, but then you seem to think I have been. 

 

Whatever you think.

 

23 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Your posts about how you have a caveat on the property etc etc was just great entertainment from you.  It gave me a good laugh. 

 

No idea what you are on about, what caveat and on what property, don't bother, it's trivial coming from you.

 

23 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Yet, some of us simply don't "invest" here, so stand to lose nothing.  The money for the purchase price of my condo is making more of a return for me back in Australia than the monthly rent costs me.  The monthly rent is well worth having no property and maintenance costs, and the freedom to move should I want to / need to. 

 

It might be different if the rent was depleting my asset portfolio at a rapid rate, but it's not.  Condo owners cringe when they see more and more development because it negatively effects the value of their condo.  I smile because it's not only keeping rents low, but also driving rents down.   

 

A nice little story about love, but time and priorities, as well as health and family can change.  Sometimes slowly, and sometimes in a split second. Who knows about tomorrow?  Maybe one of her family members accrues big gambling debts, or gets locked up, and she has to sell the house.  Maybe someone in the family gets sick and needs an expensive life saving operation and she sells the house.  As mentioned previously, maybe she dies before you.  Anything can happen.  Yet, you post here how the house is yours because you can put a caveat on it.  

 

The question whether she would have still "loved" you had you not bought her land and a house is for another thread, but most would agree that had you not, you probably wouldn't be together right now.  Not exactly a solid foundation for a relationship, yet, you want to preach on here about "love." 

 

I would hate to live in your delusional world.

 

Time for me to move on and find that ignore user button once again as too much time wasted again with you, go find someone else to annoy as I know you get off on that.

 

 

Edited May 8 by 4MyEgo

[KhunHeineken]

6 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Well good for you, I would suggest that it all depends where you want to live and, you have chosen to live in a condo building with others, which is near the beach, as opposed to a rural Issan village, nothing wrong with either, just depends on your preferences.

 

You might enjoy having people living above you, or below you and or to your side in your condo, you may also like living in built up areas, whereas I don't.

 

It's a matter of choice, for me, I can't live in a condo, a villa or a townhouse, nor can I live with neighbor's to close to me, i.e. I don't have neighbors to either side for at least 50 metres, no neighbors behind me or across the road, it's very private and quiet and, I don't want to see people unless I want to, i.e. when I feel like socialising, or when I go shopping, call me a hermit if you like, but that is my preference, and I have lived in condo's, villa's and townhouses, they are not for me, hence the reason I decided for rural living, regardless if I don't own it or rent it or whatever.

 

Rural living is for people who don't want to live in built up areas, and built up areas are for those who want to live in built up areas, simple really, I do believe you said, location, location, that would mean rural for me and built up for you.

This has been debated on many other threads, over many years.  In short, the fact is, no one flew into Thailand for their first time, and made their way straight to a rural village in Issan for their first ever visit to Thailand.  They were introduced to the village by their Thai spouse, with many eventually getting trapped there, either financially, emotionally, or both. 

 

Who works all their life to aspire to reside in their twilight years before departing this world in a rural village of Issan? 

 

I've met some of these guys.  They know absolutely nothing about farming, yet here they are, saying how happy they are with rural life.  Of course, they appear in very poor health because they do everyday is drink. 

 

Met a guy one time who was boasting about his produce.  I asked how much it is selling for a kilo these days.  He didn't even know, just a blank look on his face.  I'd had a few beers and couldn't control myself and just laughed.  

 

There are your own words. " Been quiet lately because I have been away enjoying the coast."  Most of us get to enjoy the coast everyday. 

 

7 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

No risk, so don't try to suggest that there is, as stated before, I invested what I am prepared to lose.

You are the one that put money down on something you don't own.  You tool the classic short cut and are exposed.  A loss is a loss, no matter the amount. 

 

7 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Time for me to move on and find that ignore user button once again

You are the one that just weeks ago begged me to, and I quote, "come out and play."  Now you have a sulk and pick up your bat and ball a go home. 

 

You may fool some of the people some of the time with your "interpretations" of the law and love stories, but you fool me none of the time. 

[KhunHeineken]

On 5/7/2024 at 5:17 AM, BritManToo said:

I agree with you, keep your hands on your cash.

Although I did give mine a 15% deposit on a house, and make the 10kbht monthly repayments.

But maybe 4MyEgo's 3mbht is nothing to him, as was the 300kbht I risked on mine.

I couldn't afford to drop 3Mbht all that often.

That's a common way of "owning" a property here.  It's better than the shortcuts many guys take by just buying the property outright, in the Thai girl's name. 

 

You bring up an interesting point about economies of scale. Land and property construction is a pitance up in Issan, but to live there, no way.  As mentioned in another post, who works all their life to spend their retirement in near solitude, compounded by being surrounded by non English speakers, and by choice?  Many have committed financially and emotionally to Issan, led like a sheep. 

 

A loss to a Thai girl because one put money down and everything in her name is still a loss, regardless of economy of scales.  These guys wouldn't even contemplate a similar idea in their home country, but in Thailand, with a younger Thai women, they lose their sh*t. 

 

Renting and pays as you go gives you longevity and sustainability in Thailand, and you become no one's fool. 

[KhunHeineken]

On 5/7/2024 at 5:24 AM, Celsius said:

I wish i had 30,000 baht

30,000 baht is a good night out. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

On 5/8/2024 at 4:46 PM, KhunHeineken said:

Renting and pays as you go gives you longevity and sustainability in Thailand, and you become no one's fool. 

But you die alone with no one to look after you.

[KhunHeineken]

On 6/3/2024 at 3:00 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

But you die alone with no one to look after you.

How so? 

 

It's pay as you go.  No need to buy a pig farm in Issan, just to see the girl run off. 

 

Just pay a monthly salary for "care."  No need for a lump sum up front.  

[TroubleandGrumpy]

10 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

How so? 

It's pay as you go.  No need to buy a pig farm in Issan, just to see the girl run off. 

Just pay a monthly salary for "care."  No need for a lump sum up front.  

So negative - troll much??

[KhunHeineken]

12 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

So negative - troll much??

How so? 

 

How many guys, from all around the world, have been done over because they paid up front?  Eg  houses, condo, farms, land, gold, shops, bars etc etc.   Many end up in the balcony flying club, or do you deny this?

 

Pay as you go ensures longevity here.