Aircraft departing from Thailand's Utapao Airport crashed in Afghanistan

[billd766]

35 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Nonsense.  13,000kms?

A Google search showed this information.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=falcon+10+range+with+full+fuel+load&sca_esv=600366984&sxsrf=ACQVn0-7t1qWKNKZxobyGPk56CLmrS4rqg%3A1705914922407&source=hp&ei=KjKuZcSJF6-XnesPqJWMMA&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZa5AOsG9UU2onq_a8PRzQ4DnVL-LL4c_&oq=Falcon+10&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz

 

It is powered by two Honeywell TFE 731-2-1C engines, providing 3,230 pounds of thrust and a full range of 1,520 nm. The Falcon 10 also has exceptional performance, with a maximum payload of 1,975 pounds and maximum cruise speed of 490 knots.

 

https://www.theunitconverter.com/nautical-miles-to-kilometers-conversion/1520-nautical-miles-to-kilometers.html

 

1520 Nautical Miles (Nm) = 2815.04 Kilometers (km)

 

Not quite the same as 13,000 kms.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 minutes ago, billd766 said:

A Google search showed this information.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=falcon+10+range+with+full+fuel+load&sca_esv=600366984&sxsrf=ACQVn0-7t1qWKNKZxobyGPk56CLmrS4rqg%3A1705914922407&source=hp&ei=KjKuZcSJF6-XnesPqJWMMA&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZa5AOsG9UU2onq_a8PRzQ4DnVL-LL4c_&oq=Falcon+10&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz

 

It is powered by two Honeywell TFE 731-2-1C engines, providing 3,230 pounds of thrust and a full range of 1,520 nm. The Falcon 10 also has exceptional performance, with a maximum payload of 1,975 pounds and maximum cruise speed of 490 knots.

 

https://www.theunitconverter.com/nautical-miles-to-kilometers-conversion/1520-nautical-miles-to-kilometers.html

 

1520 Nautical Miles (Nm) = 2815.04 Kilometers (km)

 

Not quite the same as 13,000 kms.

I know, hence my post!

[tjintx]

19 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Hardly enough fuel to go from Pattaya to Moscow .... 

 The distance between Moscow and Pattaya is 7163 km.

Perhaps, the pilot was dyslexic, got the numbers right between the aircraft's range and necessary distance but jumbled the order?

[steven100]

10 minutes ago, billd766 said:

A Google search showed this information.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=falcon+10+range+with+full+fuel+load&sca_esv=600366984&sxsrf=ACQVn0-7t1qWKNKZxobyGPk56CLmrS4rqg%3A1705914922407&source=hp&ei=KjKuZcSJF6-XnesPqJWMMA&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZa5AOsG9UU2onq_a8PRzQ4DnVL-LL4c_&oq=Falcon+10&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IglGYWxjb24gMTAqAggAMgQQIxgnMgQQABgDMgsQABiABBiKBRiRAjIEEAAYAzIEEAAYAzILEAAYgAQYigUYkQIyCxAAGIAEGIoFGJECMgsQABiABBiKBRiRAjILEAAYgAQYigUYkQIyBRAAGIAESOQ4UABY0x5wAHgAkAEAmAFnoAG6BqoBAzcuMrgBAcgBAPgBAcICChAjGIAEGIoFGCfCAhYQLhiABBiKBRhDGLEDGIMBGMcBGNEDwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICERAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGMcBGNEDwgIWEC4YQxiDARjHARixAxjRAxiABBiKBcICChAuGIAEGIoFGEPCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICEBAuGIAEGBQYhwIYsQMYgwHCAhAQLhiABBgUGIcCGMcBGK8BwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAgUQLhiABMICChAAGIAEGIoFGEPCAhAQLhgUGK8BGMcBGIcCGIAEwgILEC4YrwEYxwEYgAQ&sclient=gws-wiz

 

It is powered by two Honeywell TFE 731-2-1C engines, providing 3,230 pounds of thrust and a full range of 1,520 nm. The Falcon 10 also has exceptional performance, with a maximum payload of 1,975 pounds and maximum cruise speed of 490 knots.

 

https://www.theunitconverter.com/nautical-miles-to-kilometers-conversion/1520-nautical-miles-to-kilometers.html

 

1520 Nautical Miles (Nm) = 2815.04 Kilometers (km)

 

Not quite the same as 13,000 kms.

you are late to the party as usual ....  we quoted the Falcon 10X  ....   not the Falcon 10 

as everyone knows except you ...    sorry for the mistake.

[2ndhomepattaya]

Read the Reuters report..it did not attempt to fly direct.

"

The plane was a charter ambulance flight travelling from Thailand's Utapao Airport in Pattaya to Moscow via India and Uzbekistan on a French-made Dassault Aviation (AM.PA)"

[GroveHillWanderer]

58 minutes ago, quake said:

Maybe the plane had a serious failure and was on auto pilot.

but all were already dead onboard before the fuel run out.

who know.

As stated in the Reuters article linked to in @Rimmer's post, four people, including the pilot, survived. 

[Woof999]

6 hours ago, retarius said:

On most things I certainly trust Russian media much more than the true western media who only report facts, like the WMDs in Iraq.....and not this rabid stupidity "from a Russian Propaganda outlet" shyte. Why even print this story, where is the propaganda? I guess you idiots will say Putin poisoned the wife, and then bombed the plane in mid flight. You have lost all touch with reality.

 

In that case I guess it was a Special Planetary Operation.

[GroveHillWanderer]

6 hours ago, ballpoint said:

From the Reuters link above:

 

"The Taliban-run Afghan aviation ministry said in a statement on X that the plane’s planned route did not include passing through Afghanistan’s air space and that "probably due to technical issues" the plane had diverted from its planned route."

 

I wonder what "technical" issues would cause a pilot to take a longer route and outfly his fuel range?

As far as I can tell looking at the map, if flying from Gaya, India to Tashkent, Uzbekistan, the shortest route would take you over North-Eastern Afghanistan. 

 

The fact that the planned route did not include flying over Afghan airspace but the plane ended up there, seems to suggest the pilot was actually trying to take a shorter, more direct route.

[Hamus Yaigh]

6 hours ago, retarius said:

where is the propaganda

Everything is propaganda from Russia. Factual based news will get you locked up.

[steven100]

were there any survivors? 

[Walker88]

6 hours ago, retarius said:

On most things I certainly trust Russian media much more than the true western media who only report facts, like the WMDs in Iraq.....and not this rabid stupidity "from a Russian Propaganda outlet" shyte. Why even print this story, where is the propaganda? I guess you idiots will say Putin poisoned the wife, and then bombed the plane in mid flight. You have lost all touch with reality. 

So then you think former comedian-turned-President Zelenskyy is a Nazi, putin's invasion of Ukraine has the best interest of Ukrainian civilians at heart, and journalist and putin critic Anna Politkovskaya was shot by muggers, not putin's goons?

 

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

[Walker88]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

So it went splut ... splut ..splut ... zzzz..bang.   The Falcon 10 jet aircraft has a distance range with full tank of 13,000klms

...  seems they didn't do their fuel / distance calculations very good.

I've flown in the Falcon 10. It's an old model and quite small. I doubt it's range is any more than 3500km fully loaded. Now if you want to take out the seats and install a giant fuel bladder, maybe you can hit 6000km, but please don't smoke in the left seat!

[steven100]

does anyone know if there were any survivors because if there were the Taliban will shoot them most probably. 

[quake]

57 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

As stated in the Reuters article linked to in @Rimmer's post, four people, including the pilot, survived. 

 

Ha Ha, i missed that. 

[charleskerins]

7 hours ago, Rimmer said:

 

This would seem to be correct, it was chartered commercially for medivac. The aircraft ran out of fuel whilst trying to reach Tajikistan.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/report-plane-crash-northern-afghanistans-badakhshan-province-police-2024-01-21/

 

 

JFC

[Nick Carter icp]

7 hours ago, retarius said:

? I guess you idiots will say Putin poisoned the wife, and then bombed the plane in mid flight. You have lost all touch with reality. 

 

   No one has said that , some think that the plane may have been shot down by the Taliban .

A straw mans argument there , mentioning Putins wife 

[Liverpool Lou]

25 minutes ago, steven100 said:

does anyone know if there were any survivors...

 

45 minutes ago, steven100 said:

were there any survivors? 

It is covered in the thread by the Reuters report.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

some think that the plane may have been shot down by the Taliban .

Why would anyone who has read the thread, in which the pilot confirms that it ran out of fuel, think that?

[steven100]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

 

It is covered in the thread by the Reuters report.

so you aren't going to tell me,  your making me go back and read the whole story.  

[steven100]

1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

As stated in the Reuters article linked to in @Rimmer's post, four people, including the pilot, survived. 

so four people, including the pilot survived the crash. 

they won't last 10 minutes in that rugged terrain,  the Taliban will execute them as soon as they are spotted.  

[Liverpool Lou]

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

A straw mans argument there

He's not a straw man, although he used a "straw man argument".

[Liverpool Lou]

4 minutes ago, steven100 said:

so you aren't going to tell me,  your making me go back and read the whole story.  

Indeed. It was covered in one comment.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's not a straw man, although he used a "straw man argument".

 

  Yeah, that is what I said 

[Liverpool Lou]

3 minutes ago, steven100 said:

so four people, including the pilot survived the crash. 

they won't last 10 minutes in that rugged terrain,  the Taliban will execute them as soon as they are spotted.  

Obviously, they did last and they were not executed as the pilot has reported on what happened, after they were located.

Edited January 22 by Liverpool Lou

[GroveHillWanderer]

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

No one has said that , some think that the plane may have been shot down by the Taliban .

A straw mans argument there , mentioning Putins wife 

OK, but I also haven't seen anyone suggesting the Taliban shot it down either. One person (see below) suggesting they might shoot the survivors, however.

 

34 minutes ago, steven100 said:

does anyone know if there were any survivors because if there were the Taliban will shoot them most probably. 

Have a look at the Reuters article - four survivors and no suggestion that the Taliban were doing anything to them, other than to "provide assistance to the remaining individuals."

[Liverpool Lou]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's not a straw man, although he used a "straw man argument".

 

  Yeah, that is what I said 

No you posted that it was a "straw man's argument", it was a straw man argument!

[steven100]

lots more to come on this exciting story ... 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

No you posted that it was a "straw man's argument", it was a straw man argument!

 

   The apostrophe appeared automatically and I couldn't be bothered to delete it , I'm surprised that you could be bothered to post about it mentioning it 

[steven100]

I wonder if the Taliban will feed them. 

[connda]

The plane has been found, 4 survivors, patient and husband not found and assumed dead.
Easily found on a Internet search.