sirineou Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: feel like I have answered the question several times. I beg to differ, You said that it does not bother you, "Does not seem like that big a deal to me, " But that's not what I asked you, is it? I asked you " what do you think he meant by " I don't even wait" In debating , the cardinal rule is , you never ask a question if you already don't know the answer. and I am sure you also know the answer, but you can't answered it because it will lead you to the obvious conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 23 minutes ago, sirineou said: I beg to differ, You said that it does not bother you, "Does not seem like that big a deal to me, " But that's not what I asked you, is it? I asked you " what do you think he meant by " I don't even wait" In debating , the cardinal rule is , you never ask a question if you already don't know the answer. and I am sure you also know the answer, but you can't answered it because it will lead you to the obvious conclusion. Again: Again, in the context of the transcript, he claims he does not wait to kiss them, with the "them" being the women that will let him do anything. In the context the transcript, the women he is talking about have already consented to at least come level of physical contact. I think when he says, "I don't even wait", he means that he does not invite them out or whatnot, but just puts the move on them right away, again with "them" being the women that will let him do anything. Is that clear? Why did you answer my question? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Again, in the context of the transcript, he claims he does not wait to kiss them, with the "them" being the women that will let him do anything. No it does he does not, you chose to rephrase it to meet your justification , he never said he can't wait to kiss them He said "I don't even wait. " what does he not even wait for. The jurors in the trial of the Jean Carroll where it was presented as evidence knew. but it seems you do not, or would not like to admit that you do. Good try. but I will not let you of the hook on that. Edited January 31 by sirineou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 minutes ago, sirineou said: No it does he does not, you chose to rephrase it to meet your justification , he never said he can't wait to kiss them He said "I don't even wait. " what does he not even wait for. The jurors in the trial of the Jean Carroll where it was presented as evidence knew. but it seems you do not, or would not like to admit that you do. Good try. but I will not let you of the hook on that. Here it is from the transcript: Okay, you're right, he waits for nothing and grabs every woman's pussy that he sees. Now again, why do you keep refusing to answer my question? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 8 hours ago, Yellowtail said: Here it is from the transcript: Okay, you're right, he waits for nothing and grabs every woman's pussy that he sees. Now again, why do you keep refusing to answer my question? Why are you defending this behavior? Do you believe that every man can do what Trump said he does, or only Trump? Edited January 31 by Danderman123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: Why are you defending this behavior? What behavior, talking smack about how many women let them have your way with them? It's kind of like you in your bargirl thread where you denigrate the women you have sex with. Of course, it's different with you, you have to pay them. 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: Do you believe that every man can do what Trump said he does, or only Trump? Yes, but guys like you have to pay for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: What behavior, talking smack about how many women let them have your way with them? It's kind of like you in your bargirl thread where you denigrate the women you have sex with. Of course, it's different with you, you have to pay them. Yes, but guys like you have to pay for it. Again, the difference is something called "consent". Trump brags about assaulting women without their consent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/29/2024 at 1:23 AM, Yellowtail said: Apparently, the prosecutor and judge used to be work for the same firm and are (alleged) to have something of a history. How funny is that? Sorry, I think this is in one of the other BS cases. How did that talking point work out for Trump? Yet another fail. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Why are you defending this behavior? Do you believe that every man can do what Trump said he does, or only Trump? Before you can say that, you have to prove that he actually did what he was saying or if it was just locker room bragging. Plenty of men make stuff like that up all the time. I'm sure that even you know what a groupie is, and are aware that a groupie does not have to sign a written consent form to engage in such behaviour with the men they covet. Given that Trump is a very rich man and is famous, he will have/ had all the groupies he could "handle", had he chosen to, but to date you have not proven he did it with groupies, or even non groupies. Do you believe that every man can do what Trump said he does, or only Trump? I know a city in a certain country where any man can do that. Perhaps you are unaware of that place? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 7 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Again, the difference is something called "consent". Trump brags about assaulting women without their consent. Some women consent because they choose to go where such behaviour is expected. That is de facto consent. I believe you live in a country where such is a fact of life. Seems strange then that you don't understand that. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat is a type of crazy Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Some women consent because they choose to go where such behaviour is expected. That is de facto consent. I believe you live in a country where such is a fact of life. Seems strange then that you don't understand that. Bizarre. Where would that be. A nightclub? Out for a day looking at antiques? Allowing a man help you pick clothes at a department store? Inviting a man home for a coffee? Is that de facto consent for him to do what he likes? I always found the term grab em by the pussy to be obviously appalling even in a locker room setting. Are we talking about a bowling ball or what. If someone says - I am a stud - it can be funny. But the way he talks is so off. Not to some it seems. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said: Bizarre. Where would that be. A nightclub? Out for a day looking at antiques? Allowing a man help you pick clothes at a department store? Inviting a man home for a coffee? Is that de facto consent for him to do what he likes? I always found the term grab em by the pussy to be obviously appalling even in a locker room setting. Are we talking about a bowling ball or what. If someone says - I am a stud - it can be funny. But the way he talks is so off. Not to some it seems. Seems like you have lived a very sheltered life. Apparently you have never associated with men of a working class ethic, and I can't believe that you ever served in the military. The way he talks that you find so offensive is quite normal among men in my real life experience, but obviously not of the sort that you hang out with. Perhaps you never heard of groupies either. They let men do that. Edited January 31 by thaibeachlovers 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 21 hours ago, Yellowtail said: I lost my job to illegals in 1976 when I was working for Royal Plastics. About ten other guys did the same day. New Zealand needs to build a wall to keep out illegals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: New Zealand needs to build a wall to keep out illegals. NZ doesn't need a wall as is too far away for leaky boats to reach NZ's shores. Must be lucky then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Two of Donald Trump’s political action committees spent an astonishing $29 million in legal consulting and legal fees in the second half of last year, leaving only $5 million in his leadership PAC’s coffers. The expenditures provide a stark illustration of how Trump’s courtroom issues have not just defined his campaign but begun to overwhelm it. In total, the former president spent roughly $50 million in donor funds on legal expenses over the course of 2023. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/31/trump-donor-legal-fees-fec-00138965 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 i see Biden had a nice mumble in his wisconsin speech... but he's tip top condition aye... in no was is dementia setting in! how can you guys defend that, it's blatantly obvious. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 38 minutes ago, frank83628 said: i see Biden had a nice mumble in his wisconsin speech... but he's tip top condition aye... in no was is dementia setting in! how can you guys defend that, it's blatantly obvious. The difference in Biden and Trump speech in Wisconsin was painfully glaring. Biden spoke on policies for the people including rebuilding the old bridge while Trump had his usual grievances and victim hood speech. How you guys defend what was blatantly obvious and pathetic. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: The difference in Biden and Trump speech in Wisconsin was painfully glaring. Biden spoke on policies for the people including rebuilding the old bridge while Trump had his usual grievances and victim hood speech. How you guys defend what was blatantly obvious and pathetic. Mr Eric if I may add something it’s also the results now the United States has the best performing economy on the planet,inflation is being tamped down,real factual positive legislation accomplished there is a bipartisan solution to the border problem that trump is desperately trying to kill because he needs a problem to attack Biden with those are real factual accomplishments and yes Joe Biden has had a lifelong speech impediment i personally admire how well he has overcome it and yes he’s elderly but he and the team are accomplishing a great deal. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) Highly recommended viewing for both sides of the political spectrum Edited February 1 by ozimoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 1/30/2024 at 8:51 PM, Yellowtail said: I lost my job to illegals in 1976 when I was working for Royal Plastics. About ten other guys did the same day. So you lost a job to illegal immigrants at the end of the Nixon/Ford administration. Do you have anything more current? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Tug said: Mr Eric if I may add something it’s also the results now the United States has the best performing economy on the planet,inflation is being tamped down,real factual positive legislation accomplished there is a bipartisan solution to the border problem that trump is desperately trying to kill because he needs a problem to attack Biden with those are real factual accomplishments and yes Joe Biden has had a lifelong speech impediment i personally admire how well he has overcome it and yes he’s elderly but he and the team are accomplishing a great deal. BS if he's had a lifelong speech impediment!!, doesn't show much in his earlier in his political life.... remember when he plagiarised Neil Kinnocks speech from the welsh conference UK..... so a cheat & liar back in 1987.... but but Trump! best performing economy on the planet..haha, what a joke, Biden is only 'tamping' down inflation that rose under him anyway ! and the border, how come the border 'solution' is only being put forward now...after 4 years if it was such a mess under trump? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 37 minutes ago, frank83628 said: BS if he's had a lifelong speech impediment!!, doesn't show much in his earlier in his political life.... remember when he plagiarised Neil Kinnocks speech from the welsh conference UK..... so a cheat & liar back in 1987.... but but Trump! best performing economy on the planet..haha, what a joke, Biden is only 'tamping' down inflation that rose under him anyway ! and the border, how come the border 'solution' is only being put forward now...after 4 years if it was such a mess under trump? Move on mate. Neil Kanock said it was an innocent mistake. He support Joe and said this about Biden and Trump now. Joe’s an honest guy,” the 78-year-old said by phone from his home in north London. “If Trump had done it, I would know that he was lying.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said: Joe’s an honest guy.. 2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Move on mate. Neil Kanock said it was an innocent mistake. He support Joe and said this about Biden and Trump now. Joe’s an honest guy,” the 78-year-old said by phone from his home in north London. “If Trump had done it, I would know that he was lying.” an innocent mistake...t ... yeah, just sweep it under the carpet yeah, nothing to see here, he copied a speech word for word but it doesn't matter....move it an innocent mistake, move on!! yeah right.. a politician using someone elses words as their own...i can imagine how that would have gone down had Trump said it!! so, if joe's an 'honest guy' yet he copied the speech..(so basically lied), yet trump would be a liar if he did it how you guys can give Joe a pass with all the gaffs that are out the for all to see yet scrutinise Trump to every single syllable is beyond me....guess it's the TDS.... anthing but Trump mentality.... the msm brainwashed you guys so easily..i expect most believed everything about covid, BLM, syria, Ukraine and now israel. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 22 minutes ago, frank83628 said: ... yeah, just sweep it under the carpet yeah, nothing to see here, he copied a speech word for word but it doesn't matter....move it an innocent mistake, move on!! yeah right.. a politician using someone elses words as their own...i can imagine how that would have gone down had Trump said it!! so, if joe's an 'honest guy' yet he copied the speech..(so basically lied), yet trump would be a liar if he did it how you guys can give Joe a pass with all the gaffs that are out the for all to see yet scrutinise Trump to every single syllable is beyond me....guess it's the TDS.... anthing but Trump mentality.... the msm brainwashed you guys so easily..i expect most believed everything about covid, BLM, syria, Ukraine and now israel. I like presidents who aren't traitors and insurrectionists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: I like presidents who aren't traitors and insurrectionists. you prefer corrupt liars with dementia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, frank83628 said: you prefer corrupt liars with dementia You just described Trump. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: You just described Trump. i described most politicians worldwide, but the dementia cap definitely fits Joe. wonder why he wouldn't do any debates? put him n trump together and the orange man will run rings around ol' joe. you can all DT corrupt all you want, but he had money from the start, how did JB become so rich on a salary of what 120k? i think it was more likely taking his cut as the 'big guy' as Hunter said in those emails... wonder how many 10%'s brought him all the wealth.... or perhaps he was insider trading like Nancy the Gin fiend does 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, frank83628 said: i described most politicians worldwide, but the dementia cap definitely fits Joe. wonder why he wouldn't do any debates? put him n trump together and the orange man will run rings around ol' joe. you can all DT corrupt all you want, but he had money from the start, how did JB become so rich on a salary of what 120k? i think it was more likely taking his cut as the 'big guy' as Hunter said in those emails... wonder how many 10%'s brought him all the wealth.... or perhaps he was insider trading like Nancy the Gin fiend does Dealing with a cult member here. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 51 minutes ago, frank83628 said: how did JB become so rich on a salary of what 120k? Joe Biden's finances are public information, including the source of his wealth: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2023/08/17/heres-how-much-joe-biden-is-worth/?sh=20a0ef4738ea It seems you like to launch accusations with no foundation. Very Trumpy of you. 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 1 Popular Post Share Posted February 1 Trump is already sinking in the polls. 2024 is not going to be a good year for the followers of Trump. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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