Federal Jury Orders Donald Trump to Pay $83.3 Million in Defamation Case

[jerrymahoney]

13 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

What would be the legal basis for voiding the initial defamation verdict?

 

Do you think that Alina Habba is going to convince them of anything?

Error in allowing and disallowing evicencce.

 

Ms. Habba is  not on the appeal.

[Wrwest]

A reminder for all … An independent citizen Grand Jury found enough evidence to warrant a trial. A separate independent citizen Trial Jury found he was responsible for causing damage and had to pay. It was a Civil Case not a Criminal Case but two separate citizen juries … no way to say everyone involved in the sentence was in on a “conspiracy”!

[impulse]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

You're right, It isn't.At least, I could find absolutely no mention of Donald Trump in articles about the support for passing the proposed bill

 

Yeah.   'Cause Dems (and the complicit MSM who hate Trump) are really going to say that quiet part out loud...

 

Bottom line, if she filed the same lawsuit today, it would be dismissed under the statute of limitations.  But for that magic time window, she was able to attack Trump in court with a rape that she can't even remember what year it happened.

 

Pardon me if I don't believe it.

 

Edited January 27 by impulse

[Walker88]

trump had a few chances to help himself, but he refused. He is getting what he deserved. Accountability....something he has never faced in his silver spoon existence to date.

 

Ms Carroll has the dress she claims she wore when trump raped her. She never laundered it, and it has stains. Way back when she first brought this to light, she asked for a sample of trump's DNA to match against the stains. If trump was innocent, he should have 'called her bluff' and provided it. Had the DNA not matched, the matter would likely be over and done, because even in a "He said, She said" trial, the mismatch would have been raised in court and butchered Ms Carroll's credibility. trump refused to provide a sample, thus the matter eventually went to civil trial and trump lost.

 

trump's second chance was to just keep his mouth shut after the initial $5 million verdict. He was incapable of not mouthing off. Ms Carroll got increasing numbers of death threats from trump's goobers. So regular is this kind of thing now---death threats to anyone who in any way criticizes trump or holds him accountable---that the judge allowed jury members to remain anonymous, and even yesterday advised all of them to refrain from outing themselves or telling anyone they were members of this jury. Such is the threat of the violent maga goobers.

 

The attorney for Ms Carroll argued that the award had to be high enough that it would get trump to finally shut up. The jury understood and came back with the amount they did. At least in the first 12 hours it has worked.

 

By 31 January Judge Engoron in the bank and insurance fraud conviction will decide the amount of fines and punitive damages trump has to pay. The NY AG has asked for $370 million. trump will appeal, of course, but there is a requirement that he post the entire amount while the appeal process is ongoing. I do not believe it can be done via a bond, but instead must be cash in an escrow account. Even if a bond is allowed, few bondsmen are going to take the risk, as trump's payment history is pretty poor.

 

The Carroll trial is civil, not criminal, so I do not know if he has to post the entire amount while appealing, but again, what bondsman would be willing to take trump risk?

 

I suspect trump is going to go to old faithful---his goobers---to appeal for funds.  Maybe some more NFTs will be issued and more suits cut up into threads and sold, as he did with his mug shot jacket in Georgia.

[Danderman123]

Trump could provide a DNA sample today and prove his innocence. 

 

He *did* pretend to offer a sample after the trial deadline, but only as a ruse to delay the trial, one of his "two weeks" grifts.

 

But nothing is stopping Trump from showing the world he is innocent by setting up a DNA analysis.

[Walker88]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

 

My bad.  I queried their site for dominion and georgia and got no result.  That's an announcement of a trial that's already been completed (except the ruling)  Have they updated with the results, since the trial has concluded?   Like the fact that the machine expert (Haldeman) was able to hack them and change votes with a bic pen?

 

Strangely, I just binged up dominion and bic pen and got a lot more recent results than dominion and georgia.  Seems I underestimated the MSM... Newsweek and MSN, anyway.  Still crickets from CNN and no trial results from Politico.

 

Losers gonna lose.

 

Keep believing that the fairest election in US history was fraudulent. Einstein's famous quote comes to mind.

 

The initial "fairest" quote came from trump's own tech czar, who was instantly fired for his claim. As the ghost writer for trump's early book about dealmaking said, the way Fred used to take down his son was to call donny a "loser". To lose in such a public way is an arrow into trump's fragile ego.

 

trump and his goobers filed five dozen lawsuits in various courts and came up empty. The lies his team spouted to the media were never raised in court, because they were such obvious lies that the lawyers knew raising them in court would get them disbarred. Thus, no court filing about the dead Hugo Chavez writing code and hacking Italian satellites that subsequently altered votes on voting machines, and no "bamboo is the ballot" claims that ostensibly implicated China.

 

One question: if anyone truly believes the election was fraudulent, then shouldn't all those House Repubs and Senate Repubs who "won" in 2020 step down, since their names were on the exact same ballot?

 

trump lost. Bigly. It's high time the goobers came to terms with reality. He's going to lose again in November, if he even remains on the ballot. Nikki Haley has taken the gloves off and may well get trump's head to do that famous scene from the movie Scanners. Plus, trump may well be in jail come November.

[Danderman123]

23 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Error in allowing and disallowing evicencce.

 

Ms. Habba is  not on the appeal.

What's Trump's track record on overturning verdicts via appeal?

[Walker88]

5 hours ago, G_Money said:

And bonbons?  
 

Don’t hate.

 

The majority of women wind up with cats after blowing their awarded money $$$ at the Louis Vuitton shop.

You've got some misogyny showing there, pork. Had some trouble with women, have you?

 

I bet you're quite the stud muffin.

 

LOL

 

From my experience and observation, the typical maga goober is balding, short, has a waist topping 40 inches, and hasn't had much success with the females of the species. The crowd of terrorists on 6 January was riddled with fatboys, losers and Incels. That "Camp Auschwitz" guy is quite typical....the kind of goober who thinks 'philandering' is when he uses his other hand. The maga goobers would do well to get a job and begin paying off their topped out credit cards.

 

As for Ms Carroll blowing the money in Louis Vuitton...no, she isn't a trump who has to show off and mouth off about being "like..... really really rich". She's also 80 years old, though she looks to be in much better shape than the orange fatboy and will likely outlive him.

[jerrymahoney]

12 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

What's Trump's track record on overturning verdicts via appeal?

Beats me, Mr. Interlocutor

[Walker88]

9 hours ago, BenStark said:

 

I know some that will cry themselves to sleep

I understand the UN is going to re-direct Maga Tears to the Sahara and try to turn it green and fertile again.

 

The magas can also beat each other to death there, instead of going after police and elected officials like they did on 6 January.

 

Perhaps I missed it, but I don't remember Hillary supporters attacking the Capitol. It seems only the trumpian goobers are the violent, democracy-hating fascist scum.

[Captain Monday]

10 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

I'm about to find out - going for a free DEI Starbucks coffee.

How is it free?

The NYT, my aged buddy used to take at Starbucks without paying  because nobody cared.

He also threw away all his medical bills. A real Skel

[riclag]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

On May 24, 2022, Governor Kathy Hochul signed the Adult Survivors Act (ASA) into law, which gives survivors of sexual assault an opportunity to heal and seek justice.

 

The Adult Survivors Act creates a special one-year look-back window to allow survivors whose case or claim expired outside the statute of limitations, and who were 18 or older when they were sexually assaulted in New York State, to file a lawsuit against the person who harmed them and/or the negligent institution.

 

The one-year window will begin on November 24, 2022 and will allow survivors to sue, even if they were already outside of the civil statute of limitations.

 

 

But the timing is just coincidental, and this isn't about getting Trump in an election year, is it?

 

https://www.safehorizon.org/programs/adult-survivors-act-qa/

 

 

The Marxist thought they had all their lawfare ducks in a row ,they made to many political mistakes !

The biggest is 4 dem prosecutors arresting the opposition parties leader in the 2024 Potus election .

 

America wants their Republic back!

 

45/47

[placeholder]

50 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Yeah.   'Cause Dems (and the complicit MSM who hate Trump) are really going to say that quiet part out loud...

 

Bottom line, if she filed the same lawsuit today, it would be dismissed under the statute of limitations.  But for that magic time window, she was able to attack Trump in court with a rape that she can't even remember what year it happened.

 

Pardon me if I don't believe it.

 

It's one thing not to believe her story, it's quite another to impute the desire to attack Trump being behind the passage of that law. You've got nothing.

[Walker88]

10 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Did you hear that?  That was the sound of Trump support going up yet again.  Because the American voters recognize this for what it is.  Except, of course, those with TDS.

In your dreams.

 

Each day trump is being shown to be what he has always been: a totally self-serving, childish loser.

 

The so-called billionaire will be appealing to his goobers for their Pornhub membership money, so he can afford to order his KFC buckets. As Everett Dirksen sort of said, "$83.3 million here, $370 million there, and pretty soon we're talking real money". And that is likely money trump doesn't have. trump also owes lots of money to Russian oligarchs that funded him---according to donny, jr and Punxsutawney eric---via SIVs set up by Detsche Bank. Those guys won't take kindly to being stiffed, and a couple of secret service agents are no match for Wagner Group thugs.

 

trump is also going to lose---even among his cult---as Nikkei Haley goes on the offensive and emasculates him:

 

"Come on, donny, show us what you've got", she said on Wednesday, calling him to debate her. His team probably fears that more than anything, as trump;s increasing dementia would be live for all the world to see and the gaffe machine he has become would be clear to all.

 

Nikki might even take more starch out of donny's sail than did Stormy Daniels, when she said, "Not quite freakishly small, but well below average". An emasculated, small Johnson kind of guy offers little through which his goobers can live vicariously.

 

trump has a limited appeal. He's never going to pull any new members to the cult any more than Jim Jones could do that now. The Kool Aid has been drunk by all those susceptible to trump's silly and banal siren song. He might retain the biggest losers among his cult, but increasingly those not fully afflicted are going to slip away

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Yeah.   'Cause Dems (and the complicit MSM who hate Trump) are really going to say that quiet part out loud...

 

Bottom line, if she filed the same lawsuit today, it would be dismissed under the statute of limitations.  But for that magic time window, she was able to attack Trump in court with a rape that she can't even remember what year it happened.

 

Pardon me if I don't believe it.

 

You don’t have to believe it, the court ruling is in.

 

 

[LikeItHot]

Shame you guys still base your opinions and worse yet your votes on personalities.  Go ahead and tell me the US in great shape and you want more of the same.  When the courts are used as a weapon against you, you won't be laughing.  Not a Trump supporter but I know corruption when I see it. 

[Chomper Higgot]

22 minutes ago, riclag said:

America wants their Republic back!

Those arguing the President should be above the law clearly do not want a Republic.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, LikeItHot said:

Shame you guys still base your opinions and worse yet your votes on personalities.  Go ahead and tell me the US in great shape and you want more of the same.  When the courts are used as a weapon against you, you won't be laughing.  Not a Trump supporter but I know corruption when I see it. 

Clearly you do not.

[LikeItHot]

18 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

In your dreams.

 

Each day trump is being shown to be what he has always been: a totally self-serving, childish loser.

 

The so-called billionaire will be appealing to his goobers for their Pornhub membership money, so he can afford to order his KFC buckets. As Everett Dirksen sort of said, "$83.3 million here, $370 million there, and pretty soon we're talking real money". And that is likely money trump doesn't have. trump also owes lots of money to Russian oligarchs that funded him---according to donny, jr and Punxsutawney eric---via SIVs set up by Detsche Bank. Those guys won't take kindly to being stiffed, and a couple of secret service agents are no match for Wagner Group thugs.

 

trump is also going to lose---even among his cult---as Nikkei Haley goes on the offensive and emasculates him:

 

"Come on, donny, show us what you've got", she said on Wednesday, calling him to debate her. His team probably fears that more than anything, as trump;s increasing dementia would be live for all the world to see and the gaffe machine he has become would be clear to all.

 

Nikki might even take more starch out of donny's sail than did Stormy Daniels, when she said, "Not quite freakishly small, but well below average". An emasculated, small Johnson kind of guy offers little through which his goobers can live vicariously.

 

trump has a limited appeal. He's never going to pull any new members to the cult any more than Jim Jones could do that now. The Kool Aid has been drunk by all those susceptible to trump's silly and banal siren song. He might retain the biggest losers among his cult, but increasingly those not fully afflicted are going to slip away

How is it that everyone loved him until he went into politics?  You've been brainwashed.  If anyone is drinking Kool Aid it's you by the gallon.  

[uttradit]

11 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

I'm about to find out - going for a free DEI Starbucks coffee.

Can't afford coffee? A bit sad. 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, LikeItHot said:

How is it that everyone loved him until he went into politics?  You've been brainwashed.  If anyone is drinking Kool Aid it's you by the gallon.  

Not everyone loved him before he went into politics.

 

He was widely despised, especially in NY City.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 27 by Chomper Higgot

[uttradit]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If ever proof was needed that the US "justice system" is a very bad joke, this is it.

If it was anyone but Trump would the penalty be as large?

Wish he would defame me. He can call me names for 20 years if I get $83m.

[still kicking]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

My coffee tastes unusually good this morning.

I had an Irish coffee after I read the news.

[candide]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I can't help but wonder if Fox is going to get back any of the $787,000,000 that they agreed to pay for claiming the machines weren't secure.

 

Because, it appears they're not.  And with the ability (demonstrated at trial here) to change the audit logs, we'll never know...

 

You seem to be very confused about this issue.

1. Fox News claimed elections have been rigged. Its staff and boss admitted they were lying about it. They did not believe it, as evidenced by messages and testimonies.

2. Plaintiffs and their experts stated there is no evidence Dominion machines have been hacked before.

3. The reason why one expert was able to write a malicious code was because he was given access to the system. The only other way is a breach, but it doesn't get unnoticed (see what happened to the Kraken lawyer and her team)

4. The breach by the Kraken lawyer's team is one of the may cause of the lawsuit, as they put the software on a server.

 

So the current concern in this lawsuit is not that the Dominion machines may have been hacked during the previous elections. It is that it may be easier to hack it since the software leak by Republicans in 2021.

 

"Evidence of it first emerged as a result of the Coalition for Good Governance case, and the plaintiffs argue the software leak makes it easier for bad actors to find ways to subvert the machines in Georgia.

“That software is still ricocheting around with all sorts of actors with all sorts of motives,” said Marilyn Marks, the executive director of The Coalition for Good Governance. Not addressing those risks before 2024, she added, would create “enormous risk of post-election chaos.”

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/09/georgia-court-voting-machines-trump-election-fraud-00134420

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, still kicking said:

I had an Irish coffee after I read the news.

I’m saving adding the good stuff for the ruling from Trump’s NY Fraud Trial.

 

Given the brouhaha kicked up by his fluffers over $83.3million, the $hundred of millions in the NY case should have a few heads exploding.

[uttradit]

1 minute ago, candide said:

You seem to be very confused about this issue.

1. Fox News claimed elections have been rigged. Its staff and boss admitted they were lying about it. They did not believe it, as evidenced by messages and testimonies.

2. Plaintiffs and their experts stated there is no evidence Dominion machines have been hacked before.

3. The reason why one expert was able to write a malicious code was because he was given access to the system. The only other way is a breach, but it doesn't get unnoticed (see what happened to the Kraken lawyer and her team)

4. The breach by the Kraken lawyer's team is one of the may cause of the lawsuit, as they put the software on a server.

 

So the current concern in this lawsuit is not that the Dominion machines may have been hacked during the previous elections. It is that it may be easier to hack it since the software leak by Republicans in 2021.

 

"Evidence of it first emerged as a result of the Coalition for Good Governance case, and the plaintiffs argue the software leak makes it easier for bad actors to find ways to subvert the machines in Georgia.

“That software is still ricocheting around with all sorts of actors with all sorts of motives,” said Marilyn Marks, the executive director of The Coalition for Good Governance. Not addressing those risks before 2024, she added, would create “enormous risk of post-election chaos.”

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/09/georgia-court-voting-machines-trump-election-fraud-00134420

Use pen and paper. Show ID. Problem solved.

[uttradit]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m saving adding the good stuff for the ruling from Trump’s NY Fraud Trial.

 

Given the brouhaha kicked up by his fluffers over $83.3million, the $hundred of millions in the NY case should have a few heads exploding.

Don't you have anything better to do with your life? 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, uttradit said:

Don't you have anything better to do with your life? 

Forgive me if I hit a nerve, it was entirely un intended.

 

[Walker88]

31 minutes ago, LikeItHot said:

Shame you guys still base your opinions and worse yet your votes on personalities.  Go ahead and tell me the US in great shape and you want more of the same.  When the courts are used as a weapon against you, you won't be laughing.  Not a Trump supporter but I know corruption when I see it. 

I'll tell you:

 

The US is in great shape (save for the violence prone maga types who make death threats to anyone their messiah directs them toward)

 

Great economy that beats every other major industrialized nation.

 

Low unemployment.

 

Infrastructure FINALLY being fixed

 

Record job creation

 

Gas prices below $3 again and 9000 "drill ready leases" going unused, but available for anyone who wants to use them

 

Record stock market

 

Lowered prescription drug prices for the seniors who need it; insulin price slashed from $600/month to $35/month, which surely benefits the fatboy magas

 

A court system that proves NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW.

 

Institutions that stood up to trump's fascist threat and kept democracy whole

 

Looks pretty good to me.

Edited January 27 by Walker88

[ozimoron]

"Now Trump will have to pay Rudy's creditors since his unpaid legal fees to Rudy are one of Rudy's assets in his bankruptcy," he wrote Friday.

 

Political strategist Simon Rosenberg also chimed in, saying, "My God there's a whole new potential legal problem for Trump and Republicans - he stiffed Rudy."

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-rudy-bankruptcy-legal-fees/