Federal Jury Orders Donald Trump to Pay $83.3 Million in Defamation Case

[Denim]

35 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Doesn't really matter as when he's elected President, he'll just pardon himself.

And the more he's victimised, the more votes he will get from normal citizens.

 

Tend to agree, If he gets back in office it will be the haters and mud throwers that put hime there. 

 

Don't like the bloke much but I have observed how fickle the American voters can be.  There are a lot of them who get star struck at voting time.

The best way to stop his second term would be to field a better candidate than Bidden at the next election. Is that even possible ?

 

Reminds me of how Boris Johnson got into office. Won by default.  Even staunch Lavor voters didn't fancy having Corbyn in the countries driving seat.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Denim said:

 

Tend to agree, If he gets back in office it will be the haters and mud throwers that put hime there. 

 

Don't like the bloke much but I have observed how fickle the American voters can be.  There are a lot of them who get star struck at voting time.

The best way to stop his second term would be to field a better candidate than Bidden at the next election. Is that even possible ?

 

Reminds me of how Boris Johnson got into office. Won by default.  Even staunch Lavor voters didn't fancy having Corbyn in the countries driving seat.

 

Star struck? It's Republicans who are star struck, Trump is a reality TV star, that's his name recognition. Biden got there because 40 years in the senate. Dems aren't so interested in personality politics, they tend to vote the issues. Republicans can't elucidate the issues because they all get back to racism so they need to rely on famous racists who dog whistle their intentions.

[Denim]

33 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Star struck? It's Republicans who are star struck, Trump is a reality TV star,

 

Exactly.  Well spotted. After all, you would not expect a  die hard Democrat to volte face and vote for Trump !

[impulse]

40 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

NEW YORK (AP) — For a year, New York’s Adult Survivors Act suspended the usual legal deadlines to give sexual assault victims one last chance to file lawsuits over misconduct that occurred years or decades ago.

 

By the time the law expired last week, more than 3,700 legal claims had been filed, with many of the last few coming against big-name celebrities and a handful of politicians.

 

Good info.  Thanks for that because I have a hard time searching where Google is blocked.

 

Leaving Trump aside, that should scare the beejeezus out of any successful guy that has a jilted lover (or crazy stranger) in their past.  Arbitrarily opening up a yearlong window to extend the statute of limitation...  Especially if you live in a liberal Dem bunghole where the typical jury believes whatever comes out of a woman's mouth, and relishes every opportunity to stick it to the man.

 

Now, back to Trump...  It's a shame those 3700 guys got caught up as collateral damage in this obviously partisan attempt to damage the leading opposition candidate.

 

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I'd encourage them to report it in time for DNA evidence, photos of injuries and witness statements to be taken (let's be generous 2 weeks).

25+ years later when they can't even put a firm date on their accusations, not so much.

 

As for defamation, she's a nobody, $500 fine at most.

Doesn't really matter as when he's elected President, he'll just pardon himself.

And the more he's victimised, the more votes he will get from normal citizens.

And the more he's victimised, the more votes he will get from normal citizens.

 

I think it’s cute that you think of yourself and others like you as ‘normal’. When I watch MAGA Trump supporters and/or GOP voters being interviewed on TV or Youtube or something, the very last thing that comes to my mind is ‘wow, those are some very levelheaded, normal persons’. Quite the opposite would be true.
I also think it’s cute that you think Trump is being victimized. Just a mere 91 indictments so far, and counting. All just a big witch-hunt, right? Nothing to do with Trump being guilty as sin and (finally) being held accountable for his many, many crimes.

[impulse]

13 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

And the more he's victimised, the more votes he will get from normal citizens.

 

I think it’s cute that you think of yourself and others like you as ‘normal’. When I watch MAGA Trump supporters and/or GOP voters being interviewed on TV or Youtube or something, the very last thing that comes to my mind is ‘wow, those are some very levelheaded, normal persons’. Quite the opposite would be true.

 

You don't figure that's what (and who) the media want you to see?

 

Here, why don't you take it from Dean Phillips, a Dem candidate for president.  During his trip to New Hampshire.  From my previous post in another thread...

 

“Last night I saw a Trump rally outside of mine, I walked up to the line of people a mile long and I simply said hello. I was met with 50 people going to the Trump rally who were friendly, hospitable, thoughtful, some who said they voted for Barack Obama. Some said they were Bernie Sanders supporters. About half of whom had never been to a Trump event before. So for everybody watching right now, Donald Trump is on a big mission to win and Joe Biden is going to get creamed. And I just wish Democrats would wake up and ensure that at least we give it our best shot because right now I’m afraid we are deluded into a nightmare.”

 

https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/22/biden-challenger-dean-phillips-says-president-going-to-get-creamed-says-party-is-deluded-to-think-otherwise/

 

Edited January 28 by impulse

[G_Money]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Apart from stoking your grievance, why does it matter?

Politically motivated is why it matters!

[rudi49jr]

6 hours ago, impulse said:

 

You don't figure that's what (and who) the media want you to see?

 

Here, why don't you take it from Dean Phillips, a Dem candidate for president.  During his trip to New Hampshire.  From my previous post in another thread...

 

“Last night I saw a Trump rally outside of mine, I walked up to the line of people a mile long and I simply said hello. I was met with 50 people going to the Trump rally who were friendly, hospitable, thoughtful, some who said they voted for Barack Obama. Some said they were Bernie Sanders supporters. About half of whom had never been to a Trump event before. So for everybody watching right now, Donald Trump is on a big mission to win and Joe Biden is going to get creamed. And I just wish Democrats would wake up and ensure that at least we give it our best shot because right now I’m afraid we are deluded into a nightmare.”

 

https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/22/biden-challenger-dean-phillips-says-president-going-to-get-creamed-says-party-is-deluded-to-think-otherwise/

 

Always blame the media, right?

 

And there’s always someone who will see things differently.

 

What I see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears is the absolute insanity of Trump and his MAGA followers, and their utter inability to accept reality and facts. Period.

[LosLobo]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I'd encourage them to report it in time for DNA evidence, photos of injuries and witness statements to be taken (let's be generous 2 weeks).

25+ years later when they can't even put a firm date on their accusations, not so much.

 

As for defamation, she's a nobody, $500 fine at most.

Doesn't really matter as when he's elected President, he'll just pardon himself.

And the more he's victimised, the more votes he will get from normal citizens.

Will you give your loved one your advice about a speedy report along with your opinion that perpetrators are 'victimised', as you have done in your response here?

Saying the assailant is a victim, is a blatant form of victim-blaming and I would suggest that your loved one may then never report the attack as brave E. Jean Carroll did.

 

Edited January 28 by LosLobo

[G_Money]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Wow.

 

Without your talking points, you guys really have nothing.

 

Trump got hit with an $83 million verdict, and he and his team are out to lunch, no response. Wait until Judge Engeron delivers his verdict next week.

 

Trump is going to be in a state of depression.

 

So, how much are you going to donate to the Trump legal defense fund? I hear Ms. Habba needs more botox.

Trump will appeal and the gold digger won’t get anywhere near that amount.  
 

Her chances of dying of old age are far greater than receiving hush money.

 

Trumps businesses will continue and prosper.

 

MAGA!

 

 

[G_Money]

2 hours ago, LosLobo said:

If someone you care about, like your mother, wife, or daughter, was sexually assaulted, would you advise her to report it and bring accountability to the perpetrator?

 

Reporting could potentially prevent another person from becoming a victim.

 

Or, would you discourage her from reporting due to the likely backlash of vile name-calling and victim-blaming, that you have demonstrated?

Perhaps your attitude could influence the length of time it takes for the victim to muster enough courage to disregard individuals who share your viewpoint.

 

Absolutely!  At the time of the crime.  Complete medical examination, police report immediately.  DNA samples of both.

 

Not 30 years, I repeat, not 30 years later! 
 

And I don’t buy into the BS that Trump and his lawyers are so powerful against that woman.  

No more/less  powerful today than they were 30, repeat 30 years ago.

Classic example Gold digging 101.

[G_Money]

7 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

Star struck? It's Republicans who are star struck, Trump is a reality TV star, that's his name recognition. Biden got there because 40 years in the senate. Dems aren't so interested in personality politics, they tend to vote the issues. Republicans can't elucidate the issues because they all get back to racism so they need to rely on famous racists who dog whistle their intentions.

40 years in the Senate is nothing to be proud of.  Especially when he’s accomplished nothing.
 

 

[jerrymahoney]

12 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

E. Jean Carroll cannot even remember what year she was supposedly "raped." What's left of the US justice system is a a political apparatus worthy of Soviet Russia.

 

Trump rape accuser E. Jean Carroll says it would be disrespectful to the women being 'raped around the clock' at the border if she filed criminal charges against the president

 

UPDATED: 07:53 GMT, 24 June 2019

 

E. Jean Carroll appeared on The Last Word With Lawrence O'Donnell to share her story on Friday night, detailing once more the allegations she had published earlier in the day in New York.

...

But  when asked if she planned to press charges, Carroll quickly said no because it would be disrespectful to the young migrant women crossing the border.

 

 'I would find it disrespectful to the women down on the border who are being raped around the clock down there without any protection,' said Carroll.

 

'They're young women. These women have very little protection there and it would just be disrespectful.' ...

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7172145/E-Jean-Carroll-not-file-rape-charges-against-President-Trump-respect-migrant-women.html

 

 

 

[billd766]

On 1/27/2024 at 8:52 AM, impulse said:

 

Did you hear that?  That was the sound of Trump support going up yet again.  Because the American voters recognize this for what it is.  Except, of course, those with TDS.

 

 

What I did hear was somebody babbling against the wind and claiming something ridiculous about Trump once again.

 

 

To reach the conclusion that you have posted, you must have reached out and interviewed over 2oo million voters since the news broke yesterday.

 

I am impressed. Could you tell us all how many questions you asked and what they were?

 

BTW, did you personally interview President Biden as well?

 

Or perhaps you used the same machine that TAT uses to calculate the number of tourists who will visit Thailand  every month for the next 6 months.

 

The alternative. is that your response is simply a guess with nothing to back it up at all.

 

 

Edited January 28 by billd766
added extra text

[LosLobo]

17 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Absolutely!  At the time of the crime.  Complete medical examination, police report immediately.  DNA samples of both.

 

Not 30 years, I repeat, not 30 years later! 
 

And I don’t buy into the BS that Trump and his lawyers are so powerful against that woman.  

No more/less  powerful today than they were 30, repeat 30 years ago.

Classic example Gold digging 101.

And what about the likely backlash of vile name-calling and victim-blaming, that you have demonstrated here and that from your family, friends and the community with a similar penchant?

 

Could you show enough empathy, compassion and restraint to accept their deeply personal decision which can be influenced by many factors, including fear of not being believed, shame, and trauma. 

Sadly, any empathy, compassion and restraint has not been evident here.

 

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

Will you give your loved one your advice about a speedy report along with your opinion that perpetrators are 'victimised', as you have done in your response here?

Saying the assailant is a victim, is a blatant form of victim-blaming and I would suggest that your loved one may then never report the attack as brave E. Jean Carroll did.

 

Brave???  30 years ago perhaps 

[G_Money]

15 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

And what about the likely backlash of vile name-calling and victim-blaming, that you have demonstrated here and that from your family, friends and the community with a similar penchant?

 

Could you show enough empathy, compassion and restraint to accept their deeply personal decision which can be influenced by many factors, including fear of not being believed, shame, and trauma. 

Sadly, any empathy, compassion and restraint has not been evident here.

 

I’ll go hug a tree!  

[billd766]

On 1/27/2024 at 10:49 AM, impulse said:

 

He does care, but he knows there will be an appeal and in the worst case, the plaintiff will negotiate down to a reasonable number rather than risk getting the big goose egg.

 

Just out of curiosity, if she can't even recall what year it happened, are you sure she remembers who did it?  It may have been a Cuomo or even Biden...

 

 

Smarter people than you on the juries believed her. The judge believed her.

 

They heard and discussed the evidence and found against Trump.

 

What make you think that they are wrong and you are right?

[G_Money]

5 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Trump rape accuser E. Jean Carroll says it would be disrespectful to the women being 'raped around the clock' at the border if she filed criminal charges against the president

 

UPDATED: 07:53 GMT, 24 June 2019

 

E. Jean Carroll appeared on The Last Word With Lawrence O'Donnell to share her story on Friday night, detailing once more the allegations she had published earlier in the day in New York.

 

But  when asked if she planned to press charges, Carroll quickly said no because it would be disrespectful to the young migrant women crossing the border.

 

 'I would find it disrespectful to the women down on the border who are being raped around the clock down there without any protection,' said Carroll.

 

'They're young women. These women have very little protection there and it would just be disrespectful.' ...

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7172145/E-Jean-Carroll-not-file-rape-charges-against-President-Trump-respect-migrant-women.html

 

 

 

A martyr to boot!  
 

Is a statue being recommend similar to George Floyd, the patron saint of fentanyl.

 

Jean-Carroll, the patron saint of illegal alien women.

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Smarter people than you on the juries believed her. The judge believed her.

 

I don't guess you've ever served on a jury...  The standing joke is that you don't stand a chance, 'cause all the smart people figure out how to get out of jury duty.  Which I did for 64 years.  Then after I retired, I was called up and I answered the call.  I had nothing else on my schedule.  Pretty much confirmed.   The joke's true.

 

If she doesn't even remember the year that it happened, how does she remember it was Trump?  And it wasn't consensual?

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

Mr Trump,

You would be very wise to avoid any legal advice proffered here by the AN legal eagles.

[BigStar]

4 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Just a mere 91 indictments so far, and counting. All just a big witch-hunt, right? Nothing to do with Trump being guilty as sin and (finally) being held accountable for his many, many crimes.

 

Lawfare Against Trump Is Running Out of Gas

[sirineou]

At this point what does  he have to lose ?  So far between all the cases he has lost he owes a lot more than he is worth. His previous lawyers left him because he was not paying them, the lawyer in this case knows she is not getting paid, and is doing this to make a name for herself,.

The problem is that she did  

Tired of winning yet? 

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Mr Trump,

You would be very wise to avoid any legal advice proffered here by the AN legal eagles.

 

It can't be any worse than Habba's advice. Staring with failure to ask for a jury trial.

[Liverpool Lou]

7 minutes ago, sirineou said:

His previous lawyers left him because he was not paying them

Where has that been confirmed as factual?

[ozimoron]

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

Where has that been confirmed as factual?

 

https://www.salon.com/2021/02/02/trumps-lawyers-quit-after-he-refused-to-pay-3m-in-legal-fees-despite-raising-170m-report/

[Liverpool Lou]

10 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where has that been confirmed as factual?

 

https://www.salon.com/2021/02/02/trumps-lawyers-quit-after-he-refused-to-pay-3m-in-legal-fees-despite-raising-170m-report/

Nothing in that link confirms it as factual that he "did not pay his lawyers", as sirineou claimed.   It is a speculative report alleging certain things, that's all but does suggest that he did pay a $1m negotiated fee to the lawyers in question.

[BigStar]

25 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

It can't be any worse than Habba's advice. Staring with failure to ask for a jury trial.

 

If I were that clueless and biased, I'd be so embarrassed that I'd try to educate myself.

 

A Manhattan judge said Wednesday there was no option for former President Donald Trump to have a jury trial in the $250 million civil fraud case against him.

 

“We are having a non-jury trial because we are hearing a non-jury case,” Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron said at the seventh day of trial against Trump, according to ABC News.

     --Judge says there was no option for jury in Trump’s fraud case: ‘Nobody forgot to check off a box’

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Good info.  Thanks for that because I have a hard time searching where Google is blocked.

 

Leaving Trump aside, that should scare the beejeezus out of any successful guy that has a jilted lover (or crazy stranger) in their past.  Arbitrarily opening up a yearlong window to extend the statute of limitation...  Especially if you live in a liberal Dem bunghole where the typical jury believes whatever comes out of a woman's mouth, and relishes every opportunity to stick it to the man.

 

Now, back to Trump...  It's a shame those 3700 guys got caught up as collateral damage in this obviously partisan attempt to damage the leading opposition candidate.

 

I don’t spend much time worrying about my past catching up with me.

 

 

Edited January 28 by Chomper Higgot

[john donson]

easy money in the land of the free...   85 million dollars...

 

they try to alex jones TRUMP now ?