Historians rank Trump as worst president

[BobBKK]

8 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

HAHAHA... this is truly a time to consider the source when passing judgement... totally 

 

154 of 11,000 members were asked to vote - now, why is that?  who are these 154 who represent 1.4% of the membership?  are they representative?  maybe, but I'm curious to dig further - how were they selected, etc.?

[Srikcir]

6 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

many did Trump kill? 

During covid pandemic, responsible for 1 million American deaths.

[BobBKK]

1 minute ago, Srikcir said:

During covid pandemic, responsible for 1 million American deaths.

 Your argument is Trump killed 1 million people?  seriously?

[Skeptic7]

Just for fun, here's another survey from 2021. The Loser was faring a bit better back then...a whole 4 from dead last❗

 

https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall

[Skeptic7]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I give this the same credence as the 97% of scientists support man made global warming rubbish.

Yeah total shocker this...NOT❗🤣

[Freddy42OZ]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

 

People don't need to remember him, only to learn about him through history. I highly recommend it.

I thought they were supposed to be choosing their favourite president, as in the one they liked being in charge of them.

I very much doubt the respondents had a good enough knowledge of history to determine which one was best based on the historical record.

[Eric Loh]

18 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 Your argument is Trump killed 1 million people?  seriously?

You blame Biden for the border crisis because it happen under his watch. Yes blame Trump for the excessive covid deaths under his watch. He didnt take covid ánd the vaccine seriously. 

[ozimoron]

35 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Really?  Pol Pot. Hitler, Stalin, Bush, Obama? They all killed thousands; how many did Trump kill?  I wont even mention Vlad the Impaler

 

Millions. His perverted rejection of science and utter stupidity led to millions of unnecessary covid deaths. Another reason he is dead last.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, charleskerins said:

i still haven't received my payment from Soros

 

He's broke, been supporting too many conspiracies.

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, Wrwest said:

Keep in mind they are driven by emotion not reason.

Which is all the more reason for them to keep their emotions in check!

[charleskerins]

36 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

14 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

You blame Biden for the border crisis because it happen under his watch. Yes blame Trump for the excessive covid deaths under his watch. He didnt take covid ánd the vaccine seriously. 

During covid pandemic, responsible for 1 million American deaths.

Border crisis been going on since Nixon was El Presidente

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[Irish star]

Dementia Donnie  

[Irish star]

10 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

That's OK, he's got 4 more years to redeem himself.

He going to start giving back donations and Grifter Gifts 

[Irish star]

9 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

However the manufacturers of red baseball caps, and now gold plated sneakers, think that he is the absolute bee's knees!

China is Delighted making that Crap 

[scorecard]

8 hours ago, stevenl said:

Made in China?

Doe Ivanka hold the patent, but hold on she seems to have broken the link and never seen with daddy.

[rudi49jr]

41 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

"Historians" is so funny... but it is unsurprising lefty liberal academics would do that.

So all academics are lefty liberals to you? What does science have to do with being a lefty liberal? You’re just parroting a popular right wing talking point. Science and facts are scary, right?

[Irish star]

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to rate him after his upcoming second term?

He won’t get in again, Dementia Donnie 

[rudi49jr]

53 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

The truth is most Americans will not be surprised by this ranking.  The MAGA wing, of course, will be losing what's left of their minds. 

There was a lot of gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair on Faux News last night, I can tell you that much.

[charleskerins]

40 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

154 of 11,000 members were asked to vote - now, why is that?  who are these 154 who represent 1.4% of the membership?  are they representative?  maybe, but I'm curious to dig further - how were they selected, etc.?

525 respondents were invited to participate, and 154 usable responses were received, yielding a 29.3% response rate.1

[HappyExpat57]

6 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

So all academics are lefty liberals to you? What does science have to do with being a lefty liberal? You’re just parroting a popular right wing talking point. Science and facts are scary, right?

 

People who immerse themselves in propaganda do NOT want the facts to rise up and bite them in the arse.

[rudi49jr]

23 minutes ago, Freddy42OZ said:

I thought they were supposed to be choosing their favourite president, as in the one they liked being in charge of them.

I very much doubt the respondents had a good enough knowledge of history to determine which one was best based on the historical record.

I very much doubt you have any idea what you’re talking about. These people are HISTORIANS. It’s their job to know history, and, using your words, “to have enough knowledge of history to determine which one was best based on the historical record. Duh!

[scottiejohn]

6 minutes ago, Irish star said:

He going to start giving back donations and Grifter Gifts 

I assume, and hope, that you are being sarcastic!

You are in the same cuckoo land as Trump if you are not and actually believe that!

 

[HappyExpat57]

5 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

There was a lot of gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair on Faux News last night, I can tell you that much.

 

I'm surprised they even discussed it. They typically ignore that which they don't want their bleating sheep to hear.

[scottiejohn]

4 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

There was a lot of gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair on Faux News last night, I can tell you that much.

Did they run with the story?

[scottiejohn]

26 minutes ago, Freddy42OZ said:

I thought they were supposed to be choosing their favourite president, as in the one they liked being in charge of them.

I very much doubt the respondents had a good enough knowledge of history to determine which one was best based on the historical record.

Are you claiming to have better knowledge than them?

[Dolf]

20 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Millions. His perverted rejection of science and utter stupidity led to millions of unnecessary covid deaths. Another reason he is dead last.

The United States did not rank in the top 10 covid deaths per million

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

[Dolf]

3 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Are you claiming to have better knowledge than them?

What criteria did they use? Was it objective data or subjective opinions? What makes these random people experts? Who are they? What have they achieved in life? If they are just random historians making subjective comments then their views are no better than a movie reviewer. A lot of my favourite films did not win an Oscar and plenty of boring films did.

[Hanaguma]

19 minutes ago, Irish star said:

Dementia Donnie  

I dunno man. The first three Trump years were pretty damn good.  COVID was a mess for the world. We can argue the responsibility and vaccine and lockdowns until the cows come home. 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Dolf said:

The United States did not rank in the top 10 covid deaths per million

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

 

I'm not disputing that. The US is however the world's richest nation with the most advanced medicine. Trump has been credibly called out for contributing to deaths.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy

[Dolf]

16 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

525 respondents were invited to participate, and 154 usable responses were received, yielding a 29.3% response rate.1

What were their favourite US TV shows in the 1990s? Means the same. Just opinions.