Any Yaris Cross owners ?

[thaiscot]

Was looking to buy a new Car/Suv & have looked @ the Yaris cross Hev & looked at some reviews  etc but would like to hear firsthand from anyone who has got one about how it is

I Don't  care too much about power etc as I know its not a powerful  car but I drive a lot of km so more interested in fuel consumption  & reliability  etc

 

Regards

[vinny41]

check this thread 

 

[JBChiangRai]

Have you thought about an EV? 

 

I would be interested in why you discounted one.

[KhunLA]

24 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Have you thought about an EV? 

 

I would be interested in why you discounted one.

Agree

OP should seriously consider taking a peek at the BYD Atto 3, if wanting an SUV.  Not just kick the tires, but a short test drive.  Pretty sure he'll be impressed.

 

While there, peeked at the other BYD offerings, to see if the tick most of you boxes.

[Gweiloman]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

Have you thought about an EV? 

 

I would be interested in why you discounted one.

 

35 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Agree

OP should seriously consider taking a peek at the BYD Atto 3, if wanting an SUV.  Not just kick the tires, but a short test drive.  Pretty sure he'll be impressed.

 

While there, peeked at the other BYD offerings, to see if the tick most of you boxes.

OP mentioned that he drives a lot of kms. If he means long distance journeys, an EV may not be so suitable but if they are local short trips and he can charge at home, then an EV could save him a lot of money.

[JBChiangRai]

Great value now.

 

[LosLobo]

I know you are only interested in a Yaris Cross as your OP says 'Ány Yaris Cross Owners' and this is more than likely off topic.

But for value, economy and reliability have you considered my favourite mode of transport?



 

[LosLobo]

I’m planning to become a Yaris Cross owner later this year.

My decision is primarily influenced by Toyota’s reputation for reliability, their extensive dealer network, the compact size of the vehicle, and its impressive ground clearance of 210mm.
 

While the vehicle’s fuel economy is certainly a plus, it doesn’t significantly impact the total cost of ownership for me.
 

This car isn’t just for me - it will be shared among my partner, her daughter, and myself. Its smaller size makes it easy to handle, park, and manoeuvre, which is a big advantage for the other halves.
 

Living in Thailand, we often encounter flooded roads. The high ground clearance of this vehicle makes it a very practical choice.
 

My son had the opportunity to drive this model recently and he was particularly impressed by several features:

 

1)  The convenience of a hybrid that doesn’t require charging like an electric vehicle.

 

2)  The elevated driving position that offers a panoramic view aided by the 360-degree camera.

 

3)  The comprehensive Safety Sense package.

 

4)  The smooth acceleration and deceleration without excessive engine revving, a common issue with most CVTs.

 

In conclusion, this vehicle seems to tick all the right boxes for our family’s needs and preferences.

 

[Gweiloman]

13 hours ago, LosLobo said:

I’m planning to become a Yaris Cross owner later this year.

My decision is primarily influenced by Toyota’s reputation for reliability, their extensive dealer network, the compact size of the vehicle, and its impressive ground clearance of 210mm.
 

While the vehicle’s fuel economy is certainly a plus, it doesn’t significantly impact the total cost of ownership for me.
 

This car isn’t just for me - it will be shared among my partner, her daughter, and myself. Its smaller size makes it easy to handle, park, and manoeuvre, which is a big advantage for the other halves.
 

Living in Thailand, we often encounter flooded roads. The high ground clearance of this vehicle makes it a very practical choice.
 

My son had the opportunity to drive this model recently and he was particularly impressed by several features:

 

1)  The convenience of a hybrid that doesn’t require charging like an electric vehicle.

 

2)  The elevated driving position that offers a panoramic view aided by the 360-degree camera.

 

3)  The comprehensive Safety Sense package.

 

4)  The smooth acceleration and deceleration without excessive engine revving, a common issue with most CVTs.

 

In conclusion, this vehicle seems to tick all the right boxes for our family’s needs and preferences.

 

Mostly valid points. 
 

I’ve lived in Thailand over 15 years and apart from the floods back when Yingluck was PM, I must say I’ve been able to avoid flooded roads.Fortunately, I don’t live in Pattaya.

 

As for the battery, I can honestly say that charging the battery of an EV at home is arguably more convenient than filling up at a petrol station.

 

 I do understand that there are many that still prefers an ICE and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Similarly, there’s also nothing wrong with preferring an EV if your circumstances allow.

[LosLobo]

2 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Mostly valid points. 
 

I’ve lived in Thailand over 15 years and apart from the floods back when Yingluck was PM, I must say I’ve been able to avoid flooded roads.Fortunately, I don’t live in Pattaya.

 

As for the battery, I can honestly say that charging the battery of an EV at home is arguably more convenient than filling up at a petrol station.

 

 I do understand that there are many that still prefers an ICE and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Similarly, there’s also nothing wrong with preferring an EV if your circumstances allow.

Thank you for your general approval of my 'points' and your graciousness in saying that there is nothing wrong with the OP's and my preference.

 

I remember the 2011 Bangkok floods well; I was living near Min Buri at the time.

 

Pattaya is not the only place in Thailand that experiences regular flooding. In fact, flooding is generally part of life in most of Thailand’s river-bound, coastal, and high rainfall areas in the south. If you have generally avoided it, you are indeed very fortunate.

 

When I first came to Thailand in 1999, I used to wonder why Thais traditionally build two-storey houses in such a hot climate. It soon became clear that this is a practical response to the frequent flooding.

 

As for charging at home, it’s not always the most convenient option for my son and myself. We often travel long distances away from home and also to remote areas where charging stations may not be readily available. Therefore, the convenience of home charging may not be 'valid' in our case.

 

If you want to argue about ICE vs EV, there a topic on this very subject running concurrently, I am sure there are many there who will accommodate you.

 

Edited February 24 by LosLobo

[Ben Zioner]

14 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

If you want to argue about ICE vs EV, there a topic on this very subject running concurrently, I am sure there are many there who will accommodate you.

Yep, keep your ICE and buy and EV for shopping, or any shorter trips that don't require charging. That's how I see "Hybrid", keep it simple and stupid.

[Kinnock]

17 hours ago, LosLobo said:

I’m planning to become a Yaris Cross owner later this year.

My decision is primarily influenced by Toyota’s reputation for reliability, their extensive dealer network, the compact size of the vehicle, and its impressive ground clearance of 210mm.
 

While the vehicle’s fuel economy is certainly a plus, it doesn’t significantly impact the total cost of ownership for me.
 

This car isn’t just for me - it will be shared among my partner, her daughter, and myself. Its smaller size makes it easy to handle, park, and manoeuvre, which is a big advantage for the other halves.
 

Living in Thailand, we often encounter flooded roads. The high ground clearance of this vehicle makes it a very practical choice.
 

My son had the opportunity to drive this model recently and he was particularly impressed by several features:

 

1)  The convenience of a hybrid that doesn’t require charging like an electric vehicle.

 

2)  The elevated driving position that offers a panoramic view aided by the 360-degree camera.

 

3)  The comprehensive Safety Sense package.

 

4)  The smooth acceleration and deceleration without excessive engine revving, a common issue with most CVTs.

 

In conclusion, this vehicle seems to tick all the right boxes for our family’s needs and preferences.

 

I thought the Yaris Cross had a CVT gearbox in addition to the electric motor?  It may rev less when accelerating, as the electric motor provides assistance, but I thought it still had CVT?

 

If you want all electric drive plus an ICE for charging, the Nissan Kicks is an option.

[LosLobo]

17 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

I thought the Yaris Cross had a CVT gearbox in addition to the electric motor?  It may rev less when accelerating, as the electric motor provides assistance, but I thought it still had CVT?

 

If you want all electric drive plus an ICE for charging, the Nissan Kicks is an option.

You are correct!

Though, I did not say the Yaris Cross did not have a CVT transmission.

You are preaching to the choir I know how the Yaris Cross HEV manages the petrol engine/electric motor integration.
 
Thanks for the information but why would I want a Nissan Kicks?

 

Two good reasons are the previous two Nissans I owned.

[Kinnock]

57 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

You are correct!

Though, I did not say the Yaris Cross did not have a CVT transmission.


 
Thanks for the information but why would I want a Nissan Kicks?

 

Two good reasons are the previous two Nissans I owned.

The Kicks is all electric drive, which reduces any maintenance issue with the ICE drive system, such as the rubber belt CVT.  The Kicks also has an ordinary car battery, so no expensive replacement needed in future.

 

The latest Kicks has had an interior upgrade, so it looks more upmarket inside than the first version.  Generally Nissan have a better ride than Toyota or Honda, and the Kicks is reasonably quiet at highway speeds.

 

The one pedal system is great in heavy traffic.

 

But a downside of Nissan is higher depreciation than Toyota, although it's new price is slightly lower cost than the Yaris Cross.

 

I'm looking to replace an X-Trail, and as there's no new X-Trail in Thailand, I'm considering downsizing to a Kicks or a Yaris Cross.  Also looking at CR-V, but it looks like a chest freezer, and the Subaru Forester, which is currently a great price.

[SiSePuede419]

On 2/23/2024 at 4:46 PM, JBChiangRai said:

Great value now.

 

Toyota Yaris Cross Toyota Yaris Cross price in Thailand start from ฿789,000 for base variant HEV Smart and goes upto ฿899,000 for top-spec variant. 

> Toyota is high quality Japanese Family company

>BYD who knows which CCP Cadre owns it

>EV costs *may* be less than ICE but it's only SPECULATION because BYD doesn't have extensive track record 

>Right to Repair: Toyota ICE can be repaired by hundreds of people in your area, up to you 

BYD can ONLY be repaired at BYD. Whatever it costs there, you pay. You have no choice.  Their way or the highway.

 

Any questions? 😄

 

P.S. Unlike the Chinese Communist EV nut on AN, I am an actual Software Engineer who has worked for an EV company in California doing software so I know the inside story of EV subsystem issues unlike the dilatant cheerleaders 😂

[SAFETY FIRST]

Forget the EV's, This is the car you want. 

[JBChiangRai]

13 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Toyota Yaris Cross Toyota Yaris Cross price in Thailand start from ฿789,000 for base variant HEV Smart and goes upto ฿899,000 for top-spec variant. 

> Toyota is high quality Japanese Family company

>BYD who knows which CCP Cadre owns it

>EV costs *may* be less than ICE but it's only SPECULATION because BYD doesn't have extensive track record 

>Right to Repair: Toyota ICE can be repaired by hundreds of people in your area, up to you 

BYD can ONLY be repaired at BYD. Whatever it costs there, you pay. You have no choice.  Their way or the highway.

 

Any questions? 😄

 

P.S. Unlike the Chinese Communist EV nut on AN, I am an actual Software Engineer who has worked for an EV company in California doing software so I know the inside story of EV subsystem issues unlike the dilatant cheerleaders 😂

 

BYD is privately owned

Toyota risks going the way of the dinosaur as they don't have a credible EV strategy, although buying their batteries from BYD for their new EV (as does Mercedes Benz) may stave that off.

 

I'm sure there will be lots of companies cropping up to repair your BYD, although with an 8 year warranty, why would you want to?

 

P.S. After founding & co-founding several software companies and exiting via trade sale on two and floating the other on the AIM in the UK I like to think I know a little bit about software too. 

[JBChiangRai]

2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Forget the EV's, This is the car you want. 

 

I could have a faster EV for every different day of the week and still have some change.

[vinny41]

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

BYD is privately owned

Toyota risks going the way of the dinosaur as they don't have a credible EV strategy, although buying their batteries from BYD for their new EV (as does Mercedes Benz) may stave that off.

 

I'm sure there will be lots of companies cropping up to repair your BYD, although with an 8 year warranty, why would you want to?

 

P.S. After founding & co-founding several software companies and exiting via trade sale on two and floating the other on the AIM in the UK I like to think I know a little bit about software too. 

Toyota seems to be doing fine

Toyota posts record net profit on weak yen and strong hybrid sales

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2024/05/08/companies/toyota-posts-record-yearly-net-profit/

you do know that BYD abd Toyota have a joint venture in Batteries

n 2021, both companies established a joint venture, BYD Toyota Electric Vehicle Technology, with a 50/50 share. In 2023 Toyota launched its second all-electric car – Toyota bZ3 sedan co-engineered with BYD, where BYD supplied its LFP Blade battery packs, e-motor and some other in-car tech

https://carnewschina.com/2024/05/09/toyota-plans-using-byds-plug-in-hybrid-dm-i-platform-to-launch-3-phev-models-in-3-years-in-china/#:~:text=

[SiSePuede419]

On 7/6/2024 at 12:27 PM, JBChiangRai said:

I'm sure there will be lots of companies cropping up to repair your BYD, although with an 8 year warranty, why would you want to?

Speculation.

I keep my Toyota longer than 8 years.  Toyota is the industry leader in reliability, not BYD.

You're right.  The value of your BYD will probably plunge dramatically as it gets closer to 8 years old.  Better sell it quickly before you lose money.

Meanwhile at 8 years old, Toyotas hold their value nicely and with proper maintenance have years of service remaining.

You wrote software in the UK. Ahh, that explains your hubris of never having worked for an EV company before.

Very, very different than the business software you worked on Cubby*

*Dilatant 

[JBChiangRai]

In the former colonies companies are already cropping up to repair Tesla battery packs and electronics, it's just a matter of time before we see it here.

 

I kept my last car, a German EV for only 2 years, the Seal Performance is every bit as much fun to drive, not quite as fast but massively cheaper, my daughter wants me to pass it down to her, she drives an EV too.

 

It's not about cost or retained value for me, it's all about the driving pleasure.  I've had many exotic ICE cars but none of them compares to the drive of a performance EV.  I doubt I will ever buy ICE again.

 

BTW, only one of us demonstrated hubris, it was the one who said this...

 

P.S. Unlike the Chinese Communist EV nut on AN, I am an actual Software Engineer who has worked for an EV company in California doing software so I know the inside story of EV subsystem issues unlike the dilatant cheerleaders 😂

 

Ring any bells?

 

[CHdiver]

On 7/6/2024 at 7:06 AM, SiSePuede419 said:

Unlike the Chinese Communist EV

You are probably the first calling Warren Buffett a Communist. He owns 10% of Byd. 

[CallumWK]

On 7/6/2024 at 12:27 PM, JBChiangRai said:

BYD is privately owned

 

Then how are they traded on the HK and Shenzhen stock market?

[JBChiangRai]

8 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Then how are they traded on the HK and Shenzhen stock market?

A selective quote, you implied they were owned by the CCP.  They are not.

[CallumWK]

Just now, JBChiangRai said:

A selective quote, you implied they were owned by the CCP.  They are not.

 

I didn't imply anything, may increase your reading classes

[JBChiangRai]

Just now, CallumWK said:

 

I didn't imply anything, may increase your reading classes

If you don’t post the initial comment with the reply it’s impossible to see the context

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

If you don’t post the initial comment with the reply it’s impossible to see the context

 

So you don't even remember who you reply to with your EV drivel?

 

And you know what this is for?

 

[JBChiangRai]

On 7/6/2024 at 12:06 PM, SiSePuede419 said:

>BYD who knows which CCP Cadre owns it

>EV costs *may* be less than ICE but it's only SPECULATION because BYD doesn't have extensive track record 

>Right to Repair: Toyota ICE can be repaired by hundreds of people in your area, up to you 

BYD can ONLY be repaired at BYD. Whatever it costs there, you pay. You have no choice.  Their way or the highway.

 

Any questions? 😄

 

P.S. Unlike the Chinese Communist EV nut on AN, I am an actual Software Engineer who has worked for an EV company in California doing software so I know the inside story of EV subsystem issues unlike the dilatant cheerleaders 😂

Here is the relevant context.

 

I accept you didn’t say it, but you should’ve posted it in response to your reply

[JBChiangRai]

Just now, JBChiangRai said:

Here is the relevant context.

 

I accept you didn’t say it, but you should’ve posted it in response to your reply

It’s difficult to remember six week old posts, try and keep up

[JBChiangRai]

That’s better, you’re learning!