Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

[Jeff the Chef]

Blinken Is Sitting on Staff Recommendations to Sanction Israeli Military Units Linked to Killings or Rapes
A special State Department panel told Secretary of State Antony Blinken that the U.S. should restrict arms sales to Israeli military units that have been credibly accused of human rights abuses. He has not taken any action.

A special State Department panel recommended months ago that Secretary of State Antony Blinken disqualify multiple Israeli military and police units from receiving U.S. aid after reviewing allegations that they committed serious human rights abuses.

 

https://www.propublica.org/article/israel-gaza-blinken-leahy-sanctions-human-rights-violations

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Blinken Is Sitting on Staff Recommendations to Sanction Israeli Military Units Linked to Killings or Rapes
A special State Department panel told Secretary of State Antony Blinken that the U.S. should restrict arms sales to Israeli military units that have been credibly accused of human rights abuses. He has not taken any action.

A special State Department panel recommended months ago that Secretary of State Antony Blinken disqualify multiple Israeli military and police units from receiving U.S. aid after reviewing allegations that they committed serious human rights abuses.

 

https://www.propublica.org/article/israel-gaza-blinken-leahy-sanctions-human-rights-violations

5 individual incidents. All in West Bank and all before Oct 7th

 

"Four of these units have effectively remediated these violations, which is what we expect partners to do," Patel said.
In the case of a fifth unit, Washington has not yet determined whether there has been sufficient remediation and was still in discussions with Israel, he said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-found-five-israeli-military-units-committed-gross-human-rights-violations-2024-04-29/

https://archive.ph/XfT3E

[Bkk Brian]

US Secretary of State Blinken urged Hamas to quickly reach a decision on Israel's "extraordinarily generous” conditions for a temporary cease-fire in Gaza. "The only thing that’s standing between the people of Gaza and a cease-fire is Hamas,” 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

CAIRO (25 April 2024) – The Occupied Palestinian Territory is enveloped in a spiral of unstoppable violence, with stories Palestinians and other witnesses relay adding new depths to atrocities the world has witnessed since the beginning of Israel’s assault on Gaza over six months ago, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Francesca Albanese said today.

“The pace and intensity with which this violence has spread to the rest of the occupied territory confirms that no Palestinian is safe under Israel’s unfettered control,” Albanese said, concluding a visit to Egypt and Jordan.

The Special Rapporteur said Israel had once again arbitrarily denied her access to the Occupied Palestinian Territory, compelling her to report on the situation of Palestinians under occupation from neighbouring states.

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/04/testimonies-occupied-palestinian-territory-show-new-depths-israels

[coolcarer]

15 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

CAIRO (25 April 2024) – The Occupied Palestinian Territory is enveloped in a spiral of unstoppable violence, with stories Palestinians and other witnesses relay adding new depths to atrocities the world has witnessed since the beginning of Israel’s assault on Gaza over six months ago, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Francesca Albanese said today.

“The pace and intensity with which this violence has spread to the rest of the occupied territory confirms that no Palestinian is safe under Israel’s unfettered control,” Albanese said, concluding a visit to Egypt and Jordan.

The Special Rapporteur said Israel had once again arbitrarily denied her access to the Occupied Palestinian Territory, compelling her to report on the situation of Palestinians under occupation from neighbouring states.

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/04/testimonies-occupied-palestinian-territory-show-new-depths-israels

Your in good company Chef. Albanese an antisemitic Oct 7th apologist. Anything to distract from the world waiting for the end of this war and it being directly in the hands of Hamas.

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Israel fears ICC will issue arrest warrants for Netanyahu and other top officials

The country is working through diplomatic channels to try to stop the warrants from being issued by the International Criminal Court, an Israeli official told NBC News.

 Israel is greatly concerned that the International Criminal Court may issue arrest warrants for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and senior military officials as early as this week, an Israeli official told NBC News. 

Israel is working through diplomatic channels to try to stop the warrants being issued, the official said Monday. 

When asked about media reports of the arrest warrants, the ICC told NBC News that it “has an ongoing independent investigation in relation to the Situation in the State of Palestine" and that "we have no further comment to make at this stage."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-fears-icc-issue-arrest-warrants-netanyahu-gaza-war-hamas-rcna149739

[Bkk Brian]

Join in the chorus, only Hamas is standing in the way.

 

“Only Hamas is standing in the way. … We got to get these hostages home, we got to get to a ceasefire.”

— White House Press Sec. Karine Jean-Pierre reiterates the Biden administration’s view that Hamas is the sole impediment to a ceasefire-hostage release deal.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 4/30/2024 at 11:27 AM, Jeff the Chef said:

Blinken Is Sitting on Staff Recommendations to Sanction Israeli Military Units Linked to Killings or Rapes
A special State Department panel told Secretary of State Antony Blinken that the U.S. should restrict arms sales to Israeli military units that have been credibly accused of human rights abuses. He has not taken any action.

A special State Department panel recommended months ago that Secretary of State Antony Blinken disqualify multiple Israeli military and police units from receiving U.S. aid after reviewing allegations that they committed serious human rights abuses.

 

https://www.propublica.org/article/israel-gaza-blinken-leahy-sanctions-human-rights-violations

I am not surprised. IMO he is a vile colluder in atrocities in Gaza.

[Bkk Brian]

New documentary exposes Hamas' use of sexual violence

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/04/30/the-lead-october-7th-sexual-violence-documentary-sheryl-sandberg-tapper.cnn

 

‘Screams Before Silence’: Sheryl Sandberg releases documentary on Hamas sex crimes on October 7

The aim of the film, titled ‘Screams Before Silence’ and fronted by former Meta COO Sheryl Sandberg, is to highlight sexual violence perpetrated by Hamas during and after the terror group’s devastating massacre on southern Israel, when terrorists killed some 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and kidnapped 253, triggering an ongoing war in Gaza.

Clips from the hour-long film have been published in recent months, including interviews with female hostages released in a November truce.

Warning — the documentary includes graphic content.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/screams-before-silence-sheryl-sandberg-releases-documentary-on-hamas-sex-crimes-on-october-7/

 

Full vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAr9oGSXgak

 

[JBChiangRai]

Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse…

 

Israeli Minister Reportedly Asks IDF To Kill Palestinians Instead Of Arresting Them

 

The alleged comments are not the first time that far-right Itamar Ben-Gvir has called for executing Palestinian captives to manage overcrowding in prisons.

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israeli-minister-itamar-ben-gvir-kill-palestinian-captives_n_66313a76e4b0c9bc87592bf5

[0ffshore360]

Whereas the Hamas authorities mainly responsible are absent from immediate threat in Gaza the rhetoric from Netanyahu and close allies negates any trust in promises made by the Israeli authorities.

The original ultimatum to avert total destruction of Gaza was to  release all captives. A proposal guaranteed to eventuate in Gaza oblivion.

The latest offering does seem more rational as a step toward resolution except that the focus remains  soley on Gaza and Hamas operatives while ignoring the more insidious progression of illegal appropriation in the occupied territories.

Releasing "thousands" of illegally detained Palestinians only to see them or others similarly detained without charge yet again  is a sop to the issue.

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[Bkk Brian]

On 4/30/2024 at 3:01 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Join in the chorus, only Hamas is standing in the way.

 

“Only Hamas is standing in the way. … We got to get these hostages home, we got to get to a ceasefire.”

— White House Press Sec. Karine Jean-Pierre reiterates the Biden administration’s view that Hamas is the sole impediment to a ceasefire-hostage release deal.

 

 

As expected, Hamas does not want this to end.

 

Hamas official expresses opposition to latest hostage deal offer, but terror group says talks continue

Osama Hamdan, a Hamas official based in Lebanon, tells the Hezbollah-affiliated Al-Manar TV, “Our position on the current negotiating paper is negative.”

Hamas’s press office subsequently clarifies, “The negative position does not mean negotiations have stopped. There is a back-and-forth issue.”

The terror group is reportedly slated to submit an amended response to the latest proposal in the coming hours.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-official-expresses-opposition-to-latest-hostage-deal-offer-but-terror-group-says-talks-continue/

[Neeranam]

On 4/30/2024 at 7:00 AM, Jeff the Chef said:

CAIRO (25 April 2024) – The Occupied Palestinian Territory is enveloped in a spiral of unstoppable violence, with stories Palestinians and other witnesses relay adding new depths to atrocities the world has witnessed since the beginning of Israel’s assault on Gaza over six months ago, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Francesca Albanese said today.

“The pace and intensity with which this violence has spread to the rest of the occupied territory confirms that no Palestinian is safe under Israel’s unfettered control,” Albanese said, concluding a visit to Egypt and Jordan.

The Special Rapporteur said Israel had once again arbitrarily denied her access to the Occupied Palestinian Territory, compelling her to report on the situation of Palestinians under occupation from neighbouring states.

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/04/testimonies-occupied-palestinian-territory-show-new-depths-israels

No wonder Israel are not letting any journalists into Gaza. 

[Neeranam]

14 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Whereas the Hamas authorities mainly responsible are absent from immediate threat in Gaza the rhetoric from Netanyahu and close allies negates any trust in promises made by the Israeli authorities.

The original ultimatum to avert total destruction of Gaza was to  release all captives. A proposal guaranteed to eventuate in Gaza oblivion.

The latest offering does seem more rational as a step toward resolution except that the focus remains  soley on Gaza and Hamas operatives while ignoring the more insidious progression of illegal appropriation in the occupied territories.

Releasing "thousands" of illegally detained Palestinians only to see them or others similarly detained without charge yet again  is a sop to the issue.

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There are a lot of pro Israeli people ignorant of all the illegally detained Palestinians. They just focus on the Israeli prisoners/hostages. 

[Jingthing]

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

There are a lot of pro Israeli people ignorant of all the illegally detained Palestinians. They just focus on the Israeli prisoners/hostages. 

Your anti Israel bias is so extreme. You couldn't call the hostages the Hamas terrorists took just hostages. You had to qualify that by suggesting they are prisoners. 

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Your anti Israel bias is so extreme. You couldn't call the hostages the Hamas terrorists took just hostages. You had to qualify that by suggesting they are prisoners. 

Of course I'm anti-Israel, most of the world is! 

 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Of course I'm anti-Israel, most of the world is! 

 

Some more than others, such as Iran and Hamas.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I find it funny that if there is comment on anything to do with Hamas it's disgusting, antisemitism and similar rhetoric, but if it's from the Israeli side, it's all justifiable and Israel can only be doing good things, and it's never the fault of the Israeli's.

Nobody ever said that and to suggest that they did is incredibly sleazy.

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

No. It is as disgusting to attempt to justify gross retaliation with no justification .

What you think also has no greater merit  than an another in assessment of inhumane death and destruction .

So another one making excuses or worse for what Hamas did October 7.

[metisdead]

A post with an off topic trolling meme has been removed. 

[Nick Carter icp]

38 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

No. It is as disgusting to attempt to justify gross retaliation with no justification .

What you think also has no greater merit  than an another in assessment of inhumane death and destruction .

 

   Freeing hostages and bringing the perpetrators of Oct 7 th to justice is indeed justification for the war in Gaza , stopping any more terror attacks is also justification for the war 

[Nick Carter icp]

47 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

IMO a very distorted  retort .

Hostage are taken prisoner or not?

 In some reasonable thinking the Israeli arrests of thousands without admission of good cause equates to hostage taking.

 

 

   Israel has info that the arrested people are planning terror attacks on Israel , the people are not arrested randomly .

   

 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

There's a difference between a war and a genocide. Look it up, the info is available.

 

   The Gaza war isn't a genocide though  , its just a normal regular war , nothing out the ordinary 

[Wobblybob]

2 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

There's a difference between a war and a genocide. Look it up, the info is available.

You are flaming this thread again, there isn't any genocide! 

[Jeff the Chef]

Israel accused of possible war crime over killing of West Bank boy

As part of an investigation into the conduct of Israel's security forces in the West Bank, which has been under military occupation for more than half a century, the BBC has pieced together what happened on the day the two boys were killed.

Mobile phone and CCTV footage, information about the movements of Israel's military, witness testimony and detailed investigation of the scene, including taking measurements, combine to reveal evidence suggesting serious human rights violations.

The evidence we found has prompted Ben Saul, UN special rapporteur on human rights and counter-terrorism, to say the death of Adam appears to be a "war crime".

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw07wgrwzywo?at_objective=awareness&at_ptr_type=email&at_email_send_date=20240502&at_send_id=4079305&at_link_title=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bbc.com%2fnews%2farticles%2fcw07wgrwzywo&at_bbc_team=crm

[Yellowtail]

49 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Anti-Muslim is rarely mentioned.  Most Israelis/US Jews are. 

Do you have anything that supports this lie? 

[Yellowtail]

53 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Exactly, and there are thousands, unlike a couple of hundred hostages.

Do you have anything that supports this lie? 

[Wobblybob]

16 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

And of course you can prove that, or maybe not.

I didn't make the accusation, there is no genocide happening in Gaza and I hope you're not too disappointed with that revelation! 

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Not true, I don't hate anyone.

If you liked Israelis why would you call them Nazis? 

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Not true, I don't hate anyone.

You just want them dead.