2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I posted this mainly to show you how much devastation there is of even 35% of an area.

If Israel wants the hostages back, they should present a proposal to Hamas. The ball is in both courts. Either one could present a proposal.

"...beware of playing with fire, you will get burned." Joseph J. Ellis

There wouldn't any devastation had the Palestine terrorists not attacked Israel in the manner they did, this is so obvious I don't know why you keep needing reminding of this, but of course you don't want to listen, it doesn't bother you when terrorists make another incursion into Israel and reward them by repeating another 7/10.

 

"beware of playing with fire, you will get burned." Joseph J. Ellis. Thanks for the quote but it seems more fitting directed at the Palestians than Israel as is being proven.

30 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Over 76% of Gaza’s schools are damaged or destroyed. (January)

 

https://www.actionagainsthunger.org/story/children-suffer-as-education-under-attack-in-the-west-bank-and-gaza/

 

 

 

Is there a reason they are targeting schools?

Just now, Neeranam said:

Is there a reason they are targeting schools?

 

Only the obvious desire to make Gaza uninhabitable for Gazans. Israeli officials are on record (in the ICJ) as saying that Gaza belongs to Israel.

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Is there a reason they are targeting schools?

 

   You do know the answer to that .

You have no need to ask that question , as you know why schools are being targeted (and it isn't because the kids are getting bad grades in class)

Can @ozimoron please stop spamming the forum with YouTube videos. If we wanted to watch vids all day we would head there.

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Thanks for that. 

 

Many overlook the inequalities and power imbalances that have perpetuated Palestinian's struggle for self-determination and basic human rights. Palestinians have faced displacement, occupation, and numerous human rights violations, including restrictions on movement, land confiscation, and the expansion of illegal settlements.

Those who say the war started on Oct 7 are conveniently forgetting the atrocities Israel committed in the last 20 years. You cannot treat human beings like what Israel did and be surprised when they fight back. 

"Appalling injuries, particularly in women and children". "Left on the floor to die".

 

"The end game of the Israeli government is to force them out completely from Gaza".

 

 

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Is there a reason they are targeting schools?

To teach the terrorists a lesson!

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Could you back that allegation up ?

 

Anti-Black Racism among Jewish Israelis [and Recent Asylum-Seekers]

Over the past few decades, anti-Black racism in Israel has been primarily directed towards Ethiopian Israelis, part of the Jewish Beta Israel community, who number about 155,300 people in Israel (1.7% of Israel’s population), and non-Jewish asylum seekers from Eritrea and Sudan who constitute less than 1% of the population. Experiences of anti-Black racism are well documented, in both research journals and the media, and consist of police violence and racial profiling of males, overrepresentation in military and civilian prison, discrimination in employment and housing, and everyday interpersonal discrimination.

https://www.theracialequityinitiative.org/anti-black-racism-in-israel/

 

Israel: Deportation of African asylum-seekers is a cruel and misguided abandonment of responsibility

“How can the Israeli government possibly describe this as a way of deporting asylum-seekers ‘voluntarily’ when the alternatives are returning to persecution or indefinite detention? This is not a choice anyone should have to make,” said Philip Luther, Amnesty International’s Research and Advocacy Director for the Middle East and North Africa. “The forced – and illegal – deportation of Eritrean and Sudanese asylum-seekers is a reckless abandonment of responsibility.”

[...]

“The Israeli authorities need to know that the world is watching with outrage at their brazen disregard for human life, dignity and responsibility to the wider global community.”

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/israel-deportation-of-african-asylum-seekers-is-a-cruel-and-misguided-abandonment-of-responsibility/

 

Chief rabbi calls black people ‘monkeys’

In footage aired by the Ynet news site, Yosef could be seen referring to black people by the word “kushi,” which in modern Hebrew has pejorative connotations, and then going on to term a black person a “monkey.” His office told Ynet that the comparison was a quote from the Talmud.
[...]

Non-Jews, Yosef said, are in Israel only to serve Jews.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbi-compares-african-americans-to-monkeys/

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Only the obvious desire to make Gaza uninhabitable for Gazans. Israeli officials are on record (in the ICJ) as saying that Gaza belongs to Israel.

Did you see the video of Israeli kids singing on Israeli state TV about Gaza? 

 

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Didnt you know that there have been recent meetings between the two to discuss the situation ?

Yes, I've seen something about that on CNN. Hopefully, some proposal will come out of those efforts.

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

Chief rabbi calls black people ‘monkeys’

In footage aired by the Ynet news site, Yosef could be seen referring to black people by the word “kushi,” which in modern Hebrew has pejorative connotations, and then going on to term a black person a “monkey.” His office told Ynet that the comparison was a quote from the Talmud.
[...]

Non-Jews, Yosef said, are in Israel only to serve Jews.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbi-compares-african-americans-to-monkeys/

 Wow.  

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Anti-Black Racism among Jewish Israelis [and Recent Asylum-Seekers]

Over the past few decades, anti-Black racism in Israel has been primarily directed towards Ethiopian Israelis, part of the Jewish Beta Israel community, who number about 155,300 people in Israel (1.7% of Israel’s population), and non-Jewish asylum seekers from Eritrea and Sudan who constitute less than 1% of the population. Experiences of anti-Black racism are well documented, in both research journals and the media, and consist of police violence and racial profiling of males, overrepresentation in military and civilian prison, discrimination in employment and housing, and everyday interpersonal discrimination.

https://www.theracialequityinitiative.org/anti-black-racism-in-israel/

 

Israel: Deportation of African asylum-seekers is a cruel and misguided abandonment of responsibility

“How can the Israeli government possibly describe this as a way of deporting asylum-seekers ‘voluntarily’ when the alternatives are returning to persecution or indefinite detention? This is not a choice anyone should have to make,” said Philip Luther, Amnesty International’s Research and Advocacy Director for the Middle East and North Africa. “The forced – and illegal – deportation of Eritrean and Sudanese asylum-seekers is a reckless abandonment of responsibility.”

[...]

“The Israeli authorities need to know that the world is watching with outrage at their brazen disregard for human life, dignity and responsibility to the wider global community.”

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/israel-deportation-of-african-asylum-seekers-is-a-cruel-and-misguided-abandonment-of-responsibility/

 

Chief rabbi calls black people ‘monkeys’

In footage aired by the Ynet news site, Yosef could be seen referring to black people by the word “kushi,” which in modern Hebrew has pejorative connotations, and then going on to term a black person a “monkey.” His office told Ynet that the comparison was a quote from the Talmud.
[...]

Non-Jews, Yosef said, are in Israel only to serve Jews.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbi-compares-african-americans-to-monkeys/

There is racism in every country in the world, why just pick on Israel, its nothing to do with this war anyway.

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Anti-Black Racism among Jewish Israelis [and Recent Asylum-Seekers]

Over the past few decades, anti-Black racism in Israel has been primarily directed towards Ethiopian Israelis, part of the Jewish Beta Israel community, who number about 155,300 people in Israel (1.7% of Israel’s population), and non-Jewish asylum seekers from Eritrea and Sudan who constitute less than 1% of the population. Experiences of anti-Black racism are well documented, in both research journals and the media, and consist of police violence and racial profiling of males, overrepresentation in military and civilian prison, discrimination in employment and housing, and everyday interpersonal discrimination.

https://www.theracialequityinitiative.org/anti-black-racism-in-israel/

 

Israel: Deportation of African asylum-seekers is a cruel and misguided abandonment of responsibility

“How can the Israeli government possibly describe this as a way of deporting asylum-seekers ‘voluntarily’ when the alternatives are returning to persecution or indefinite detention? This is not a choice anyone should have to make,” said Philip Luther, Amnesty International’s Research and Advocacy Director for the Middle East and North Africa. “The forced – and illegal – deportation of Eritrean and Sudanese asylum-seekers is a reckless abandonment of responsibility.”

[...]

“The Israeli authorities need to know that the world is watching with outrage at their brazen disregard for human life, dignity and responsibility to the wider global community.”

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/03/israel-deportation-of-african-asylum-seekers-is-a-cruel-and-misguided-abandonment-of-responsibility/

 

Chief rabbi calls black people ‘monkeys’

In footage aired by the Ynet news site, Yosef could be seen referring to black people by the word “kushi,” which in modern Hebrew has pejorative connotations, and then going on to term a black person a “monkey.” His office told Ynet that the comparison was a quote from the Talmud.
[...]

Non-Jews, Yosef said, are in Israel only to serve Jews.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbi-compares-african-americans-to-monkeys/

 

   Every Country has aspects/accusations  of racism , what makes Israel to be "institutionally racist" when other Countries are not ?

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

There is racism in every country in the world, why just pick on Israel, its nothing to do with this war anyway.

 

His claim was contested, what did you expect?

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

His claim was contested, what did you expect?

I expect him to discuss with me if he wants, not you, I have nothing to discuss with you

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

I expect him to discuss with me if he wants, not you, I have nothing to discuss with you

 

Yawn, it's a public forum. If you have nothing to discuss with me then why this post? I'd be more than happy if you didn't respond to my posts.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Yawn, it's a public forum.

I especially don't discuss yawns or discuss with posters who always edit their posts after I've already replied.

20 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

There wouldn't any devastation had the Palestine terrorists not attacked Israel in the manner they did, this is so obvious I don't know why you keep needing reminding of this, but of course you don't want to listen, it doesn't bother you when terrorists make another incursion into Israel and reward them by repeating another 7/10.

 

"beware of playing with fire, you will get burned." Joseph J. Ellis. Thanks for the quote but it seems more fitting directed at the Palestians than Israel as is being proven.

The Palestinian attack on Israel on Oct 7 is just another "war" in a series of "wars" that have been waged over control of land since 1948. I assume you know this but want to keep pretending that all this came out of nowhere on Oct 7. But, yes, I believe that until a two-state solution that is acceptable to both sides is reached, the "war" that started on Oct 7 will just be repeated. And that might happen even after a two-state solution is agreed upon. 

Both are playing with fire. Both have been burnt, but neither seems ready to back off yet.

10 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

14 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Is there a reason they are targeting schools?

To teach the terrorists a lesson!

No, to terrorize children and families. This is what the IDF is now.... 

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

There is racism in every country in the world, why just pick on Israel, its nothing to do with this war anyway.

 

Agree this is not 100% on topic and I will not expand on it, but in these examples we are talking about discriminatory policies implemented by the government, as well as widespread racist behaviour by the auhorities and population.

11 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Did you see the video of Israeli kids singing on Israeli state TV about Gaza? 

 

 

As a kid I cheered on Israeli in the 1967 war. Why focus on what kids do? We played cowboys and indians when I was a kid. The cowboys were always the heroes. I read war comics which were appallingly racist propaganda.

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

There is racism in every country in the world, why just pick on Israel, its nothing to do with this war anyway.

This war has EVERYTHING to do with racism. Both sides hate the other because of their race - Jew/Arab.

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, to terrorize children and families. This is what the IDF is now.... 

 

What an appalling comment!. No wonder I have him on ignore.

17 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Every Country has aspects/accusations  of racism , what makes Israel to be "institutionally racist" when other Countries are not ?

The fact that the government implements policies to deport refugees back to where they came from, as well as the fact that watchdog organisations have repeatedly observed discriminatory practices by the authorities and population.

 

6 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, to terrorize children and families. This is what the IDF is now.... 

 

   You just cannot admit that Hamas are losing the war .

Just like Hamas, you hide behind woman and children 

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Agree this is not 100% on topic and I will not expand on it, but in these examples we are talking about discriminatory policies implemented by the government, as well as widespread racist behaviour by the auhorities and population.

Israel prides itself on being a homeland for the Jewish people, non-Jews are discriminated against in all areas, especially in the immigration process.   

Israel's legal framework and status as a Jewish state are unique. A Thai Buddhist could not get Israeli citizenship, yet an Israeli can get Thai citizenship, I know a Rabbi who is a naturalized Thai.

4 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

The Palestinian attack on Israel on Oct 7 is just another "war" in a series of "wars" that have been waged over control of land since 1948. I assume you know this, but I want to keep pretending that all this came out of nowhere on Oct 7. But, yes, I believe that until a two-state solution that is acceptable to both sides is reached, the "war" that started on Oct 7 will just be repeated. And that might happen even after a two-state solution is agreed upon. 

Both are playing with fire. Both have been burnt, but neither seems ready to back off yet.

That is your 'get out of jail for free card" which imo you have played far too often that the war didn't start on 7/10. Every man and his dog agrees when this war started but then these people are not trying to make excuses for terrorists!

9 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

As a kid I cheered on Israeli in the 1967 war. Why focus on what kids do? We played cowboys and indians when I was a kid. The cowboys were always the heroes. I read war comics which were appallingly racist propaganda.

It was on Israeli state TV! 

The Video is sung in Hebrew but you can Google it

 

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Israeli+children+Gaza+state+TV&l=1

8 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, to terrorize children and families. This is what the IDF is now.... 

Perleeeeaase, try to remain in the real world, show a link to your absurdity accusations.