Strength of character

[Dolf]

This man is an inspiration. 48 years jail for a crime he didn't commit -

 

 

[bob smith]

he should be awarded a million dollars for each year that he was wrongfully incarcerated.

 

the American justice system is a shambles.

 

bob.

Edited March 17 by bob smith

[Dolf]

2 minutes ago, bob smith said:

he should be awarded a million dollars for each year that he was wrongfully incarcerated.

 

the American justice system is a shambles.

 

bob.

5m per year is 240m. Then any living cops who framed him jailed.

[rexpotter]

A report released by the Corrections Accountability Project this week exposes over 3,100 corporations—including over 2,500 privately traded companies—that profit from the United States prison system.

The 113-page report provides troves of data outlining the thousands of companies that contribute, intentionally or unintentionally, to the Prison Industrial Complex, according to Bianca Tylek, director of the Corrections Accountability Project.

"We were trying to uncover how intentional these companies are about hiding engagement in the Prison Industrial Complex," Tylek says. Tylek points out that, besides CoreCivic and GEO Group, the two largest privately owned prison companies in America, there are many small companies that contribute to the $80 billion spent annually on U.S. prisons.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

This is why I will never agree to the death penalty.  Just one false convinction and someone loses their life - which is all we ever have or will have.  However if someone convicted of a very serious crime would rather take the needle than spend 30-50 years in jail, then OK let them go out (and save the money). 

[Rampant Rabbit]

2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

This is why I will never agree to the death penalty.  Just one false convinction and someone loses their life - which is all we ever have or will have.  However if someone convicted of a very serious crime would rather take the needle than spend 30-50 years in jail, then OK let them go out (and save the money). 

well I think they should just pay compensation for wrongful death, too many thugs in the world, lets say 1-1000 is wrong, that still means 999 <deleted>ty  people  that are not going to repeat

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, bob smith said:

he should be awarded a million dollars for each year that he was wrongfully incarcerated.

 

the American justice system is a shambles.

That post made sense...stop it, it's not like you at all!

[Tropicalevo]

3 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

This is why I will never agree to the death penalty.  Just one false convinction and someone loses their life - which is all we ever have or will have.  However if someone convicted of a very serious crime would rather take the needle than spend 30-50 years in jail, then OK let them go out (and save the money). 

I am totally for the death penalty.

First - it stops repeat offences. Guaranteed.

Last - I would rather be dead then spend 48 years like this guy did.

[cdemundo]

44 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

well I think they should just pay compensation for wrongful death, too many thugs in the world, lets say 1-1000 is wrong, that still means 999 <deleted>ty  people  that are not going to repeat

OK, I see about "thugs" now.

It's a dog whistle isn't it?

[StreetCowboy]

3 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

well I think they should just pay compensation for wrongful death, too many thugs in the world, lets say 1-1000 is wrong, that still means 999 <deleted>ty  people  that are not going to repeat

As a law abiding person, I trust the judges to make sure that conviction is sound more than I trust the police to make sure that they get find the right man

[Lacessit]

Try reading "An Innocent Man" by John Grisham. It's the true story of Ron Williamson, who was jailed for 11 years until DNA evidence exonerated him. He died a broken man.

 

The prosecutors and police who railroaded him with false evidence kept their jobs.

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Try reading "An Innocent Man" by John Grisham. It's the true story of Ron Williamson, who was jailed for 11 years until DNA evidence exonerated him. He died a broken man.

 

The prosecutors and police who railroaded him with false evidence kept their jobs.

The guy in the video looked remarkable for a guy who spent 48 years in jail for nothing. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

19 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

well I think they should just pay compensation for wrongful death, too many thugs in the world, lets say 1-1000 is wrong, that still means 999 <deleted>ty  people  that are not going to repeat

One wrong death by the State is not 'balanced' by 999 correct ones. That one person could be you or your son or your brother etc etc etc. 

[Rampant Rabbit]

Just now, TroubleandGrumpy said:

One wrong death by the State is not 'balanced' by 999 correct ones. That one person could be you or your son or your brother etc etc etc. 

on the other hand those 999 wont  cause many more unwanted deaths which may save many other people from that  horror

[TroubleandGrumpy]

18 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

I am totally for the death penalty.

First - it stops repeat offences. Guaranteed.

Last - I would rather be dead then spend 48 years like this guy did.

Then you will gladly be put to sleep - no problem.

However - and maybe you dont know this (yet) - the real world is very different to what you think. When faced with that choice it is amazing how lifelong views suddenly change. And in fact it is often the one who for decades said 'put me down' (acting tough etc) who screams and fights to stay another day.  

[TroubleandGrumpy]

6 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

on the other hand those 999 wont  cause many more unwanted deaths which may save many other people from that  horror

You clearly fail to see that there is not balance - 999 or 9999999 - 1 wrong death is not worth it.  

[Rampant Rabbit]

Just now, TroubleandGrumpy said:

You clearly fail to see that there is not balance - 999 or 9999999 - 1 wrong death is not worth it.  

Its  not the  balance its  what you think is  acceptable to what I see is  acceptable

[TroubleandGrumpy]

4 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Its  not the  balance its  what you think is  acceptable to what I see is  acceptable

You might think that is the case - but I guarantee you that it will not be so when it is you.

Or are you saying that you will say :-   OK - no problems  - just my bad luck - I am that 1 in a 1000 - fair enough - I accept it. 

[Thingamabob]

21 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

I am totally for the death penalty.

First - it stops repeat offences. Guaranteed.

Last - I would rather be dead then spend 48 years like this guy did.

How would you feel being escorted to the execution chamber knowing you were innocent ?

[Tropicalevo]

5 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

How would you feel being escorted to the execution chamber knowing you were innocent ?

At my age now and with a fairly large number of medical conditions (and growing) - probably relieved.

But I will not know unless it happens.

Local hospital will miss the revenue though.

[Enoon]

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[1FinickyOne]

4 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

You clearly fail to see that there is not balance - 999 or 9999999 - 1 wrong death is not worth it.  

what if those 999 are incorrectly set free and just 1% of them murder while they are out? 

[Wrwest]

On 3/17/2024 at 11:57 AM, Dolf said:

5m per year is 240m. Then any living cops who framed him jailed.

Support compensation but I am thinking first from those who were art fault for the wrongful incarceration. Let's go a little more reasonable on calling for my tax money at 240 million. Yes, one could observe, as a citizen of the USA, I technically allowed this (same thinking as holding German citizens responsible for the Death Camps or Israeli citizens responsible for current situation in Gaza (or Gaza citizens for the actions of Hamas).

[Dolf]

4 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

Support compensation but I am thinking first from those who were art fault for the wrongful incarceration. Let's go a little more reasonable on calling for my tax money at 240 million. Yes, one could observe, as a citizen of the USA, I technically allowed this (same thinking as holding German citizens responsible for the Death Camps or Israeli citizens responsible for current situation in Gaza (or Gaza citizens for the actions of Hamas).

The cops who framed him are probably dead.

[john donson]

On 3/17/2024 at 11:54 AM, bob smith said:

he should be awarded a million dollars for each year that he was wrongfully incarcerated.

 

the American justice system is a shambles.

 

bob.

 

why should tax payers cough up that for him ? he can go fund himself