Trump unable to get $464m bond in New York fraud case, his lawyers say

[HappyExpat57]

1 minute ago, Dolf said:

You are trolling. There was no victim. Banks were happy. Therefore no crime.

Fake charges.

 

OK, so intentionally ignorant. Got it.

[Dolf]

Unfit biased judge

 

"Engoron, a Democrat, has ruled repeatedly against Trump in the three years he’s been presiding over James’ lawsuit. "

https://apnews.com/article/trump-engoron-letitia-james-fraud-new-york-9bd42690d327f6f63c9eb31c046f8426

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Dolf said:

No victim no crime.

That’s not how the law works.

 

Refer caution statement on the subject of fraud above where you sign on any loan agreement.

 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Committed fraud.

 

Now has to pay the penalty.

 

 

 

   Should you be getting free NHS service in the UK, when you live in Thailand ?

Most people are not squeaky clean 

[Dolf]

3 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

OK, so intentionally ignorant. Got it.

You got nothing but trolls and abuse. The banks signed off on loans ie they were happy. No victim means no crime. Basic principle of law.

 

 

[Dolf]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

That’s not how the law works.

 

Refer caution statement on the subject of fraud above where you sign on any loan agreement.

 

 

 

Actually it is apart from traffic offence. No victim means no crime.

[wwest5829]

I am thinking, more than anything else, his financial empire collapsing thus utterly destroying his ego may well result in a mental challenge for him. Of course, there is a real chance he will hold on to his delusions until his demise.

[HappyExpat57]

3 minutes ago, Dolf said:

You got nothing but trolls and abuse. The banks signed off on loans ie they were happy. No victim means no crime. Basic principle of law.

 

 

 

Yup, every post you make exhibits how your intentional ignorance is limitless. You COULD heed the words of folks here and admit that a crime is a crime, victimless or not, but you choose to ignore them.

[candide]

4 minutes ago, Dolf said:

You got nothing but trolls and abuse. The banks signed off on loans ie they were happy. No victim means no crime. Basic principle of law.

 

 

Not according to NY law, as you already know.

[cdemundo]

I just hope he doesn't get the "white collar criminal" special treatment and gets the same treatment as another offender would get.

 

[candide]

1 minute ago, wwest5829 said:

I am thinking, more than anything else, his financial empire collapsing thus utterly destroying his ego may well result in a mental challenge for him. Of course, there is a real chance he will hold on to his delusions until his demise.

I think the worse for his ego is other people eventually knowing what his real wealth is! 😀

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Should you be getting free NHS service in the UK, when you live in Thailand ?

Most people are not squeaky clean 

Once again wild baseless guesses on your part and, on the off chance you haven’t notice, I am not the subject of discussion.

 

Refer top of thread for a big hint as to the subject of the discussion you chose to join.

[candide]

Just now, cdemundo said:

I just hope he doesn't get the "white collar criminal" special treatment and gets the same treatment as another offender would get.

 

He will surely get a special treatment! Change of diapers 3 times a day! 😀

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

He will surely get a special treatment! Change of diapers 3 times a day! 😀

The first thing he’ll get is another Cognitive Assessment Test.

 

Well, OK that’s the second, but it’s too near my next meal to discuss the first.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Once again wild baseless guesses on your part and, on the off chance you haven’t notice, I am not the subject of discussion.

 

Refer top of thread for a big hint as to the subject of the discussion you chose to join.

 

   It was a question and I was pointing out that is not uncommon for people not to be completely honest .

A person fraudulently receiving medical treatment shouldn't really be criticising a person who fraudulently received a loan 

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

I think the worse for his ego is other people eventually knowing what his real wealth is! 😀

 

   Rich people don't keep large amounts of cash in their bank account 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It was a question and I was pointing out that is not uncommon for people not to be completely honest .

A person fraudulently receiving medical treatment shouldn't really be criticising a person who fraudulently received a loan 

What on earth are you talking about?

 

 

[RobU]

41 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Broke no laws. Nobody lost money.

He inflated the worth of his company thus keeping it's share prices higher than they should have been. Anyone who bought shares was therefore defrauded

Edited March 19 by RobU
Typo

[RobU]

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Rich people don't keep large amounts of cash in their bank account 

You can't keep cash in a bank account. Cash by definition is physical money i.e. banknotes and coins

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, RobU said:

You can't keep cash in a bank account. Cash by definition is physical money i.e. banknotes and coins

 

  *Bidens supporter are on the warpath and want to argue about anything *

[RobU]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  *Bidens supporter are on the warpath and want to argue about anything *

Just stating a fact Nick

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, RobU said:

Just stating a fact Nick

 

   You knew  exactly what I meant and you are just trying to prove yourself right about something .

You know vry well what I meant 

[jerrymahoney]

52 minutes ago, billd766 said:

The judge found him guilty

This was a civil trial. Trump et al were found liable, not guilty. And he has 6 more days to maybe pull a rabbit out of the hat.

[sirineou]

A multi billionaire who can't come up with $464 MM  bond.

a aren't you all even embarrassed to call yourselves trump supporters? 

 

[RobU]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You knew  exactly what I meant and you are just trying to prove yourself right about something .

You know vry well what I meant 

Frankly I don't really care. American politics is big business. Neither of them actually represent the people. They are just front men, puppets for cabals of the wealthy like all American presidents.  Voted in by a wierd system that no one understands 

[Chomper Higgot]

29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Rich people don't keep large amounts of cash in their bank account 

Trump stated in his April 2023 deposition before the court that he had in excess of $400 million in cash.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23932452/452564_2022_people_of_the_state_of_v_people_of_the_state_of_exhibit_s__859.pdf

[LosLobo]

18 minutes ago, RobU said:

You can't keep cash in a bank account. Cash by definition is physical money i.e. banknotes and coins

You are correct!

I would suggest the term “cash” in this context likely refers to liquid assets, which are assets that can be quickly converted into cash without significant loss of value.

In financial discussions, having “a lot of cash” typically means having readily accessible funds to cover costs, investments, or debts.

[stevenl]

51 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Unfit biased judge

 

"Engoron, a Democrat, has ruled repeatedly against Trump in the three years he’s been presiding over James’ lawsuit. "

https://apnews.com/article/trump-engoron-letitia-james-fraud-new-york-9bd42690d327f6f63c9eb31c046f8426

 

Yes, if you're on the wrong side of the law the judge rules against you.

[Dolf]

29 minutes ago, RobU said:

He inflated the worth of his company thus keeping it's share prices higher than they should have been. Anyone who bought shares was therefore defrauded

No such thing as fair value. It does not actually exist. How could you not know this? A valuation is an opinion. Why is a house worth $250,000 in 2007 then gets sold for $1 after the gfc? Because valuations are just subjective.

 

 

[LosLobo]

4 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

And he has 6 more days to maybe pull a rabbit out of the hat.

I agree with only six days left, the anticipation is akin to waiting for a magician to pull a rabbit out of a hat.

Yet, I find myself unsurprised by the absence of such a spectacle.

After all, isn’t it more characteristic of Trump to lead his supporters down a rabbit hole than to conjure up a solution?

The real magic, it seems, lies in the art of the diversion.