digbeth Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Some hotels won't let you check in with just Thai driver license now, 'policy is for passport' What exactly is required of them in order to report T.M. 30? the passport number on driving license might not be current is understandable for hotels that is this strict about reporting I doubt pink ID card would be acceptable too, it's not like they can put you down as a Thai person checking in 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Upnotover Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 TM30 asks for details of your visa and entry into the country. Only your passport will have this information. Having said that I am not sure all this information is always completed, I certainly have TM30's with missing info. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 (edited) Discussed frequently. X posters, x opinions. To me: they are obliged to check/copy passport for foreigners. Some take it easy some don't . Hotels that I stay even searching for the admitted until/extension stamp. I would never go on an remote/overnight trip without passport. More reasons for that. Edited April 11 by KhunBENQ 1 2 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liquorice Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 Depends on if the hotels comply with the requirements, some do, some don't. If I'm with the wife, they usually just check her in ........... I'm just baggage. The new TM30 regulations also affect hotels in so far as if you stayed beforehand and return, they are no longer required to file further TM30's. 5 2 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 24 minutes ago, digbeth said: Some hotels won't let you check in with just Thai driver license now, 'policy is for passport Why is that an issue. My bank also requires my pp for simple withdrawal. No issue. 1 1 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post digbeth Posted April 11 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, DrJack54 said: Why is that an issue. My bank also requires my pp for simple withdrawal. No issue. If you can avoid being reported to 'checked in' at a hotel you can save yourself the trouble of re-reporting yourself when you're home, for the immigration office that insist on it say you had a weekend away and the hotel reported you moved there say in Phuket or whatever and you didn't report that you 'moved' back to your usual place, would this be a problem when you present the initial TM30 at immigration that might not match where they had you last in their system? 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 6 minutes ago, digbeth said: If you can avoid being reported to 'checked in' at a hotel you can save yourself the trouble of re-reporting yourself when you're home, for the immigration office that insist on it say you had a weekend away and the hotel reported you moved there say in Phuket or whatever and you didn't report that you 'moved' back to your usual place, would this be a problem when you present the initial TM30 at immigration that might not match where they had you last in their system? Pretty sure you don"t have to do that anymore.....and I have never done it. 2 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yagoda Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 In every foreign hotel I have ever stayed at in 40 years of traveling I have had to show my passport. No biggie 1 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 26 minutes ago, digbeth said: If you can avoid being reported to 'checked in' at a hotel you can save yourself the trouble of re-reporting yourself when you're home, for the immigration office that insist on it Law was changed in June 2020. What you outline is no longer required. 1 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 TM 30 requires a lot more than the passport number. Nationality, when it was issued and so on. These are not on your DL. They also require when and where you entered Thailand (immigration stamp) and how long is your visa valid for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroubleandGrumpy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 22 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Law was changed in June 2020. What you outline is no longer required. Thanks - any links to the Immigration Office (to show someone). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denim Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 I had this issue once when visiting a friend in Bangkok and had forgotten my passport at home. Just stayed at a curtain hotel instead. No questions at all except would we want drinks or food. Pretty good place with excellent wifi and big bath with plenty of hot water. I won't mention the several porno channels or strange chair thing in the corner because I am sure AN readers would not be interested. Car parked downstairs behind curtain, room upstairs. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 (edited) In the past 6 weeks I have stayed at various Marriotts and Hilton. Never once showed my passport, just Thai DL. Same on boarding domestic flights. Edited April 11 by bkk6060 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 12 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: Thanks - any links to the Immigration Office (to show someone). Discussed in this thread https://aseannow.com/topic/1169664-thai-immigration-announce-changes-to-tm30-reporting/ In the OP take note of Para 2.2.... 2.2 After the house holder, owner or possessor of the premise of hotel manager has reported as defined in Article 2.1, the same alien has left the premise and returned for another stay within the valid period, the house holder, owner or possessor of the premise of hotel manager do not need to make another report; The alien as defined in paragraph one shall include those who being granted multiple-visa who leaves and returns to the Kingdom with specified time in the visa, and those with re-entry permit. Previously, most immigration offices in Thailand wanted a new TM30 report within 24 hours every time a person left and reentered the country. This change eliminates that requirement. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 5 hours ago, Will B Good said: Pretty sure you don"t have to do that anymore.....and I have never done it. 100 % depends on the immigration office you use. Nongkhai, not good. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 5 hours ago, DrJack54 said: Law was changed in June 2020. What you outline is no longer required. Please go tell that to the immigration office in nongkhai. Please report back with your findings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, quake said: Please go tell that to the immigration office in nongkhai. Please report back with your findings. It's impossible to qualify each statement with what rogue offices do re TM30. There are ~75 offices and I posted the law and what normal offices such as CW enforce. CM is another rogue office. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quake Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: It's impossible to qualify each statement with what rogue offices do re TM30. There are ~75 offices and I posted the law and what normal offices such as CW enforce. CM is another rogue office. Well that's two. Maybe we need a pinned thread stating these rouge immigration offices. So no one gets misinformation. Ps, I wonder how many more could go on the list. and for many other things. Edited April 11 by quake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 4 minutes ago, quake said: Maybe we need a pinned thread stating these rouge immigration offices. So no one gets misinformation. Pinned thread: That won't happen. It's not misinformation It's the law. Everyone needs to be aware of their immigration office nonsense. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persimmon Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I usually hand them a photocopy of my PP - don`t trust the real thing with anyone apart from an IO . Been accepted so far . Do they really check your PP for stamps and visas ? Are they even qualified to do this ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SingAPorn Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 The golden rule to remember in Thailand is that the clerk or officer behind his counter is God in person when dealing with a pesky foreigner. So "God" makes his own rules that the pesky falang is required to obey by the thumb. Even if the law says the opposite. Welcome to Thailand. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 10 hours ago, Will B Good said: Pretty sure you don"t have to do that anymore.....and I have never done it. Fairly recent experience posted on this forum indicated that it's one aspect of Chiang Mai immigration's unique arseholeyness. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Prang Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 10 hours ago, Yagoda said: In every foreign hotel I have ever stayed at in 40 years of traveling I have had to show my passport. No biggie Exactly and its not just about TM30 They want to know where to find bed wetters and towel thieves too, Plus those who commit more serious crimes, 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post namatjira Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 Sadly I travelled everywhere without my passport, the license always worked, until it didn't, in Bangkok and it was crackdown time....need passport......raining 9.00 pm at night and every hotel turned me away, I was due to fly out in the morning.....asked a cabbie to find me a place close to the airport and I got a 600 baht cab ride in the opposite direction....most miserable night in my life in the most disgusting room available....do not recommend.....do not get caught like me, take your passport 2 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bday Prang Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 10 minutes ago, namatjira said: Sadly I travelled everywhere without my passport, the license always worked, until it didn't, in Bangkok and it was crackdown time....need passport......raining 9.00 pm at night and every hotel turned me away, I was due to fly out in the morning.....asked a cabbie to find me a place close to the airport and I got a 600 baht cab ride in the opposite direction....most miserable night in my life in the most disgusting room available....do not recommend.....do not get caught like me, take your passport surely you would have your passport if you were flying out the next morning ? 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 10 hours ago, bkk6060 said: In the past 6 weeks I have stayed at various Marriotts and Hilton. Never once showed my passport, just Thai DL. Same on boarding domestic flights. So you broke the law and got away with it - well done. I fail to understand why so many people are afraid to report where they are staying in Thailand. It used to be the TM 6 card but that did not work. It relied on the honesty of the traveller. Now it is the TM 30. Photo id is OK on domestic flights. But you do have to tell them your Nationality. (It's not on the DL.) I once boarded a flight using a Tarongo zoo pass. Edited April 11 by Tropicalevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 18 minutes ago, Bday Prang said: surely you would have your passport if you were flying out the next morning ? I have a feeling he didn't mean flying out of the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 This is not new. Most hotels larger than a hole in the wall B500 guesthouse have required PP for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just curious what's the problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lister Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 As another poster has said, letting your wife or partner check in saves yet one more person handling your passport and registering details from it and copying it. That workaround notwithstanding, I always take my passport with me when I travel for an overnight away from home. I don't know that CM is a rogue office bu it does tend to implement measures before other offices. I still have the same TM30 in my passport from five years ago and we travel inside the country a fair amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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