High court upholds top London school’s ban on prayer rituals

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The recent high court decision upholding a London school's ban on prayer rituals has sparked a contentious debate surrounding religious freedom and the role of faith in the education system. Michaela Community School in Brent, known for its stringent disciplinary policies, faced legal action from a Muslim pupil, identified only as TTT, who argued that the ban infringed upon her right to religious expression.

 

In a written judgment, Mr Justice Linden dismissed the pupil's claims, affirming the school's prerogative to maintain a secular environment conducive to learning. The ruling was met with praise from government officials, including Rishi Sunak and Kemi Badenoch, who hailed it as a victory against attempts to undermine public institutions.

 

The controversy stems from Michaela's decision to implement the prayer ban last year following threats of violence over its approach to religious observance. Founder Katharine Birbalsingh, often dubbed "Britain's strictest headteacher," defended the policy as essential for fostering an inclusive learning environment. However, the pupil argued that the ban had left her feeling alienated and marginalized as a Muslim in the UK.

 

Critics of the ruling, including the Runnymede Trust and Dr. Abdul-Azim Ahmed of the Muslim Council of Wales, expressed disappointment, asserting that it undermined the principle of freedom of religion. They argued that the ban disproportionately affected Muslim students and perpetuated a culture of discrimination.

 

Despite the court's decision, the pupil and her family remained steadfast in their belief that challenging the ban was the right thing to do. Birbalsingh welcomed the ruling as a victory for school autonomy, emphasizing that institutions should be free to determine their own policies without interference.

 

However, the case has raised broader questions about the role of faith in education and the balance between religious freedom and inclusivity. Humanists UK chief executive Andrew Copson called for careful consideration from the government, urging policymakers to safeguard children's freedom of religion while ensuring that schools remain fair and inclusive spaces for all students.

 

As the debate continues, the implications of this ruling could extend beyond Michaela Community School, prompting a reevaluation of faith-based practices in state schools across England. In an increasingly diverse society, finding a balance between respecting individual beliefs and promoting inclusivity remains a complex and pressing challenge for educators and policymakers alike.

 

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[mikeymike100]

A big thumbs up for common sense, students go to school to learn!!

[tmd5855]

Is this the rights of a few outweigh the rights of many??

All I know is that your relationship with god is from your soul/consciousness to your Supreme Being!!  Now if your God should be allowed into school then what if I were a 'Satanist' and wanted "Lucifer" in a room somewhere, realise that is stretching it, but, give an inch why not a mile.

 

Places of learning should be secular, religion is for in your home or your appointed 'House of God' 

 

My 30 pieces of silver.....

[Chomper Higgot]

Well past time to remove all religion from state schools and remove tax breaks from private ‘religious’ schools.

 

 

[JonnyF]

A good decision.

 

Schools are for learning, she can go to the mosque to pray.

 

[wombat]

It's about time the majority had a win.

The more we empower minorities the more they want untill the minority dictate to the majority 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, wombat said:

It's about time the majority had a win.

The more we empower minorities the more they want untill the minority dictate to the majority 

 

Exactly.

 

If they'd have won this then they'd just want more. A prayer room in every school, desks facing mecca, readings of the Koran during assembly, halal only school dinners, bans on pork in the canteen, lessons in Arabic etc. 

 

It would never be enough.

[billd766]

But was the pupil concerned, "forced" to go to that particular school, or did she attend voluntarily and then try to change the rules into her (minority) favour?

[blazes]

17 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Exactly.

 

If they'd have won this then they'd just want more. A prayer room in every school, desks facing mecca, readings of the Koran during assembly, halal only school dinners, bans on pork in the canteen, lessons in Arabic etc. 

 

It would never be enough.

 

Well, I was going to lament that the pupils would now be prevented from learning about the Religion of Peace, when along came this informative list of what the poor souls would be missing.

[parallelman]

People should have the right to choose their religion But that right does not include practising the chosen religion at venues not designed for the chosen religion. Hope she doesn't get a job as Bus Driver...'sorry passengers I got to do my prayers now'.

[James105]

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

A big thumbs up for common sense, students go to school to learn!!

 

Also, a big thumbs down for lack of common sense as the family were given £150,000 of taxpayers money in legal aid to take this nonsense to court.  

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Also, a big thumbs down for lack of common sense as the family were given £150,000 of taxpayers money in legal aid to take this nonsense to court.  

It’s one of those rights to representation things.

 

Or are legal challenges only to be available to those who can afford the cost?

[klauskunkel]

9 hours ago, Social Media said:

the pupil argued that the ban had left her feeling alienated and marginalized as a Muslim in the UK

I imagine the people who showed up to coach her on how to speak would be Muslim as well, which then should make her feel accepted and welcome...

[James105]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s one of those rights to representation things.

 

Or are legal challenges only to be available to those who can afford the cost?

 

Legal aid should be for legal defence when someone who cannot afford their own defence is accused of a serious crime, not to support vexatious actions like this where the family chose to send their child to this school knowing full well the secular nature of the school in advance and what facilities were and were not available, and having the freedom of choice to move to an alternative school if they desired such a facility.   

 

They should not have been given legal aid and if they wanted to take such a nonsense, spurious claim to the courts (as is their right) then they should fund it themselves.   It's the equivalent of me taking a gym to court for not providing a swimming pool when I already knew they didn't have a pool when I signed up and took the tour of the gym before committing to joining.  

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Legal aid should be for legal defence when someone who cannot afford their own defence is accused of a serious crime, not to support vexatious actions like this where the family chose to send their child to this school knowing full well the secular nature of the school in advance and what facilities were and were not available, and having the freedom of choice to move to an alternative school if they desired such a facility.   

 

They should not have been given legal aid and if they wanted to take such a nonsense, spurious claim to the courts (as is their right) then they should fund it themselves.   It's the equivalent of me taking a gym to court for not providing a swimming pool when I already knew they didn't have a pool when I signed up and took the tour of the gym before committing to joining.  

Your opinion is at odds with reality.

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

I imagine the people who showed up to coach her on how to speak would be Muslim as well, which then should make her feel accepted and welcome...

I expect you imagined all of that.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

A good decision.

 

Schools are for learning, she can go to the mosque to pray.

 

And of course a church, temple synagogue, henge or wherever else pupils and staff wish to perform their personal religious observances.

[klauskunkel]

50 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

I imagine the people who showed up to coach her on how to speak would be Muslim as well, which then should make her feel accepted and welcome...

 

35 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I expect you imagined all of that.

I congratulate you on your reading ability.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

They should not have been given legal aid and if they wanted to take such a nonsense, spurious claim to the courts (as is their right) then they should fund it themselves.   It's the equivalent of me taking a gym to court for not providing a swimming pool when I already knew they didn't have a pool when I signed up and took the tour of the gym before committing to joining.  

 

That should have been the first test of the merits of her case.  If she (they) couldn't find an organization to fund the trial expenses, or an attorney that would take the case on a contingency, that should have ended it before it even started.  Of course, there probably would have been financial backing in this particular case.

 

No way they should have used taxpayer money to bring it to trial.  Public funds should be limited to defending indigent defendants.

 

[PETERTHEEATER]

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

But was the pupil concerned, "forced" to go to that particular school, or did she attend voluntarily and then try to change the rules into her (minority) favour?

The pupil's mother enrolled her child voluntarily. 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68731366

 

[billd766]

5 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

The pupil's mother enrolled her child voluntarily. 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68731366

 

Thank you.

 

The pupils Mother was presumably told the school rules before her daughter was enrolled and should have known and understood the rules.

 

Having seen a couple of video interviews with the head teacher she was honest and open about the religious side and even the High Court agreed with her,

 

I feel sorry for the girl, but not for her parents, who put her in that position.

[Purdey]

I had to take a subject called religious studies at school. However, no one gave us a clue about satanism. I felt ever so marginalized.

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I wish all the British right-wingers who posted in support of the decision would share their beliefs with their American right wing counterparts who overwhelmingly favor prayer in schools.

[James105]

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

I wish all the British right-wingers who posted in support of the decision would share their beliefs with their American right wing counterparts who overwhelmingly favor prayer in schools.

 

Actually the way that the UK has outgrown christianity has left a bit of a vacuum that Islam is now trying to (and will one day) fill with it's backwards ideology.  The "right wingers" are overwhelmingly in favour of equal rights for women and gay people of any religion.  The left are in favour of being allied with ideologies that would take those rights away as soon as they have the power to do so.  

 

Islamic countries protect their (backwards) values by not allowing the teaching of other religions in their schools.  Maybe the west should have continued to insist on teaching Christian values rather than kowtowing to the most intolerant religion on the planet and allowing that intolerance to spread via Islamic faith schools.  Maybe then the street would not be full of hateful people on their hate marches every weekend.