New UK Spouse Requirements - Minimum £38,700 wages p/a or £93K savings - Petition To Scrap

[SteveJames]

The new income requirements are cruel for us Farrang if we ever decide to relocate back to the UK, sign to help stop it, We're nearly at 100K signatures, we can do it if you share with everyone: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/652602

 

 

[UKresonant]

Name added, to the petition. 

 

The increase is way over the top by at least £10k of nasty ness....

 

The last I read they were saying they were fudging it be phasing it, have they issued a new financial criteria annex PDF somewhere?

Edited April 29 by UKresonant

[BigBruv]

Great news.  A lot of Thais will marry a farang for a couple of years to get their golden ticket to the promised land - then dump the mug who brought them over.  I know one who is a nice enough person but is divorced and on benefits with 2 kids who sleep all the time - UK has enough problems of its own with freeloaders so this rule change is most welcome.

 

Yours is different: I know, I know but the exception proves the rule.

Edited April 29 by BigBruv

[rocketboy2]

A rubber dinghy is much cheaper. 

[Ralf001]

£38,700 wages p/a

 

Thats a decent wage, I would not be wife shopping in Asia with an income like that !

[sammieuk1]

Asylum seeking is the way to go with the chance of a vacation in Rwanda when your ticket is up 🤔

[rocketboy2]

48 minutes ago, SteveJames said:

 its still a decent wage you could find a UK wife on that as you say

 

OMG.  Who, would want another one of them. 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 30 by rocketboy2

[BusNo8]

Just get a visitor visa and have her stay on. Don't fight the insanity.

[proton]

13 minutes ago, BusNo8 said:

Just get a visitor visa and have her stay on. Don't fight the insanity.

 

Almost impossible to get deported, if desperate commit a crime and claim you will suffer if sent home, no worries in soft touch UK.

Edited April 30 by proton

[Rimmer]

2 hours ago, SteveJames said:

I got that wrong its p/a , can someone get a mod to edit it? it won't let me change now...  even per year its still a decent wage you could find a UK wife on that as you say

 

Edited to p/a

[Scott Tracy]

Bring in 90 day reporting, no likelihood of PR or citizenship. TM30 requirements, annual renewal.... Oh yes, and no buying property in your own name. 

[Drumbuie]

7 hours ago, BigBruv said:

Great news.  A lot of Thais will marry a farang for a couple of years to get their golden ticket to the promised land - then dump the mug who brought them over.  I know one who is a nice enough person but is divorced and on benefits with 2 kids who sleep all the time - UK has enough problems of its own with freeloaders so this rule change is most welcome.

 

Yours is different: I know, I know but the exception proves the rule.

What provincial narrow-minded nonsense.

In the UK more than half of all taxpayers earn less than £20k a year ( and thanks to the skyrocketing cost of living have no savings at all) and the *average* salary is less than this threshold.

 

So the majority of British citizens are now unable to marry anyone without a British passport  and bring them home to live. 

Not just Thais. *Anyone*. Including former Commonwealth citizens. It's a needlessly cruel, vindictive policy, a further diminution of citizens' rights, and we should  all sign that petition now. 

 

[Bangkok Barry]

Theresa May began this, effectively banning many Brits from living in their own country if they had the audacity to marry a foreigner. I'd be interested in knowing how many Brits currently living in the UK earn that threshold. Follows on from most UK pensioners living overseas being robbed of their pension increases.

 

Meanwhile, the petition is a waste of time as the government doesn't care. Which is why they brought in the rule in the first place. Why would they then do a U-turn?

[billd766]

11 hours ago, SteveJames said:

The new income requirements are cruel for us Farrang if we ever decide to relocate back to the UK, sign to help stop it, We're nearly at 100K signatures, we can do it if you share with everyone: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/652602

 

 

Signed it at 13:18 on 30 April 2024. There were 81,905 signatories including me.

[gravity101]

Why would a Thai want to marry someone who's earning potential is less than £38,700 anyway? Ahh right, love. 

[billd766]

35 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

Bring in 90 day reporting, no likelihood of PR or citizenship. TM30 requirements, annual renewal.... Oh yes, and no buying property in your own name. 

Who can afford to buy a property in the UK anyway?

 

You would need to earn 4 or 5 times that amount just to get into the housing market list anyway.

 

When my Mum died in 1973 I was offered the chance to but the rented 2 bed bungalow for 6,000 quid. Nowadays similar properties are selling for between 4 and 5 hundred thousand pounds.

 

I didn't take the offer, as I was off to Germany the following week, and I couldn't have lived in it for another 11 years anyway.

[theoldgit]

29 minutes ago, Drumbuie said:

What provincial narrow-minded nonsense.

In the UK more than half of all taxpayers earn less than £20k a year ( and thanks to the skyrocketing cost of living have no savings at all) and the *average* salary is less than this threshold.

The latest average earnings index, published by the ONS, is £677 per week, which is a tad over £35k per year.

[PJ71]

8 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

£38,700 wages p/a

 

Thats a decent wage, I would not be wife shopping in Asia with an income like that !

Before tax, really?

[theoldgit]

31 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Meanwhile, the petition is a waste of time as the government doesn't care. Which is why they brought in the rule in the first place. Why would they then do a U-turn?

Sadly the government brought in this rule to satisfy many UK citizens who fully support it, l don’t think there will be a U-turn.

 

The new requirements only affect new applicants, and are being brought in in stages.

[wwest5829]

11 hours ago, SteveJames said:

The new income requirements are cruel for us Farrang if we ever decide to relocate back to the UK, sign to help stop it, We're nearly at 100K signatures, we can do it if you share with everyone: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/652602

 

 

I can only identify as a retired working middle class American. The working middle class gets stuck again. I have been most sorry when I learned that your state pensions were frozen if living outside the UK. First the system does not allow for a reasonable working middle class retirement in our own countries and then there is a withholding of earned benefits when we move to a lower cost country. You guys get hit with the pension freeze, we Yanks cannot use Medicare (even though costs are much lower outside the USA).

[brianthainess]

11 hours ago, SteveJames said:

The new income requirements are cruel for us Farrang if we ever decide to relocate back to the UK, sign to help stop it

I agree why income, when many own their own house, car etc. No money owed no monthly instalments. It should be done on a personal assessment, not income.

[PJ71]

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

After tax I reckon I could live on it.... Might be 2 min noodles now and then though.

Just out of interest, how much tax would you pay on that?

 

What's the average uk salary these days?

[john donson]

illegals from all over the world off course , no requirements, get get get and never pay anything back

[jonclark]

9 hours ago, BigBruv said:

Great news.  A lot of Thais will marry a farang for a couple of years to get their golden ticket to the promised land - then dump the mug who brought them over.  I know one who is a nice enough person but is divorced and on benefits with 2 kids who sleep all the time - UK has enough problems of its own with freeloaders so this rule change is most welcome.

 

Yours is different: I know, I know but the exception proves the rule.

 

How will this rule change that? 

 

It may raise the bar...but a hooker marries a British bloke earning 50K p/a arrives in the UK has a sprog and dumps the bloke -(ex) hooker now gets on benefits, sends half back to Isan and sleeps all day - how does this change that outcome? 

(Apologies for the stereotypes). 

 

And remember most immigration is illegal migration, making legal migration more difficult only encourages the former. 

[jwest10]

11 hours ago, UKresonant said:

Name added, to the petition. 

 

The increase is way over the top by at least £10k of nasty ness....

 

The last I read they were saying they were fudging it be phasing it, have they issued a new financial criteria annex PDF somewhere?

The vast majority of us have nowhere near this figure and those who have a very very rich and many have no property there either.
I have been stating  for a long time that the financial are impossible to meet.

[Red Forever]

28 minutes ago, john donson said:

illegals from all over the world off course , no requirements, get get get and never pay anything back

Oh, you mean those billionaire non domicile tax evaders who make up your laws then point at the least advantaged in society and tell you that it's the "workshy benefit scroungers" who are the reason why your life is <deleted>e.

[GarryP]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Theresa May began this, effectively banning many Brits from living in their own country if they had the audacity to marry a foreigner. I'd be interested in knowing how many Brits currently living in the UK earn that threshold. Follows on from most UK pensioners living overseas being robbed of their pension increases.

 

Meanwhile, the petition is a waste of time as the government doesn't care. Which is why they brought in the rule in the first place. Why would they then do a U-turn?

The median earnings in the UK is 34,963 quid/year. More down south and less up north east. These figures just show me how out of touch I am with the UK reality. I always thought I was the pauper living and working in Thailand, but it appears that is not the case.  

[howerde]

The plan is to raise the threshold over the next year or to, the first  stage has come into effect on 11 th April

The plan is to raise it to 34000 GB supposedly some time in 2024

and at some point 38700 GBP in 2025

The last 2 figures can be adjusted or disregarded depending which party is in power and what they want to do

Bashing foreigners in any country is always a vote winner unfortunately

 

 

 https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06724/

 

 

[MarkBR]

Use of averages is very misleading when there are skews in data.  It is better to use median or mode to indicate how poor most Britains are.

[BigBruv]

2 hours ago, Drumbuie said:

What provincial narrow-minded nonsense.

 

Because I don't want to subsidise your 3x4?

 

2 hours ago, Drumbuie said:

In the UK more than half of all taxpayers earn less than £20k a year ( and thanks to the skyrocketing cost of living have no savings at all) and the *average* salary is less than this threshold.

 

These losers shouldn't be allowed to vote either - they'll just vote for everyone else to chip in so they can get their leg over until she can navigate the legal system

 

2 hours ago, Drumbuie said:

 

So the majority of British citizens are now unable to marry anyone without a British passport  and bring them home to live. 

Not just Thais. *Anyone*. Including former Commonwealth citizens. It's a needlessly cruel, vindictive policy, a further diminution of citizens' rights, and we should  all sign that petition now. 

 

 

Overall such an entitled boomer comment - can't afford an imported bride so everyone else should pay!.

Save some money and earn a decent wage or tell her to get in a dinghy with the rest of them ya loser.

Edited April 30 by BigBruv