US Report Suggests Israel May Have Violated International Law with American Weapons in Gaza

[Neeranam]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

At least they will live. Hamas charter says kill all Jews. 

So why are they killing Gazans kids and women, who are not Hamas? 

Israel have never left Gaza, which you falsely said too. 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

So why are they killing Gazans kids and women, who are not Hamas? 

Israel have never left Gaza, which you falsely said too. 

It's war.

Israel is not targeting civilians by policy.

Hamas started this. What about the hostages? You don't care.

Yes of course Israel left Gaza but going forward who knows.

[G_Money]

6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Israelis remember the Nazi Holocaust and remember  Hamas trying to steal THEIR and on Oct 7 th 2023.

  You are not the only one who remembers things 

   

“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”

 

Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

He knew history repeats itself.

[riclag]

21 minutes ago, G_Money said:

“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”

 

Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

He knew history repeats itself.

Wow, Ike ,5 star general  and  34th POTUS,even knew it back than!

Long live the lions in the Middle East!

thanks @G_Money

Edited May 14 by riclag

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It's war.

Israel is not targeting civilians by policy.

Hamas started this. What about the hostages? You don't care.

Yes of course Israel left Gaza but going forward who knows.

I do care about the hostages! 

Hamas didn't start this..... Israel want to take Gaza, well they've never actually left....

Israel's control over the territory did not end in 2005. While Israeli military forces withdrew from within Gaza's borders, they maintained control over its borders, airspace, and maritime access points. This control effectively meant that Gaza remained under Israeli occupation.

Gazans found themselves living in what was effectively an open-air prison, with Israel controlling their ability to travel, trade, and interact with the outside world.

The issuance of passports and other travel documents, typically the responsibility of a sovereign government, remained under Israeli oversight. This control over documentation further underscored the limits of Gazans' autonomy and their continued dependence on Israeli authorities for basic rights and privileges.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I do care about the hostages! 

Hamas didn't start this..... Israel want to take Gaza, well they've never actually left....

Israel's control over the territory did not end in 2005. While Israeli military forces withdrew from within Gaza's borders, they maintained control over its borders, airspace, and maritime access points. This control effectively meant that Gaza remained under Israeli occupation.

Gazans found themselves living in what was effectively an open-air prison, with Israel controlling their ability to travel, trade, and interact with the outside world.

The issuance of passports and other travel documents, typically the responsibility of a sovereign government, remained under Israeli oversight. This control over documentation further underscored the limits of Gazans' autonomy and their continued dependence on Israeli authorities for basic rights and privileges.

You should be arrested for talking complete rollox...........🤔

[Bkk Brian]

20 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I do care about the hostages! 

Hamas didn't start this..... Israel want to take Gaza, well they've never actually left....

Israel's control over the territory did not end in 2005. While Israeli military forces withdrew from within Gaza's borders, they maintained control over its borders, airspace, and maritime access points. This control effectively meant that Gaza remained under Israeli occupation.

Gazans found themselves living in what was effectively an open-air prison, with Israel controlling their ability to travel, trade, and interact with the outside world.

The issuance of passports and other travel documents, typically the responsibility of a sovereign government, remained under Israeli oversight. This control over documentation further underscored the limits of Gazans' autonomy and their continued dependence on Israeli authorities for basic rights and privileges.

Jeez, where did you get that from, no don't tell me. Unbelievable misinformation

[Jingthing]

46 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I do care about the hostages! 

Hamas didn't start this..... Israel want to take Gaza, well they've never actually left....

Israel's control over the territory did not end in 2005. While Israeli military forces withdrew from within Gaza's borders, they maintained control over its borders, airspace, and maritime access points. This control effectively meant that Gaza remained under Israeli occupation.

Gazans found themselves living in what was effectively an open-air prison, with Israel controlling their ability to travel, trade, and interact with the outside world.

The issuance of passports and other travel documents, typically the responsibility of a sovereign government, remained under Israeli oversight. This control over documentation further underscored the limits of Gazans' autonomy and their continued dependence on Israeli authorities for basic rights and privileges.

Not an open air prison.

You've got all the extremist Israel demonization points.

Hard to have any kind of discussion with such extremists. 

[G_Money]

54 minutes ago, transam said:

You should be arrested for talking complete rollox...........🤔

This has to be a FIRST.  I agree with you.

 

A greater achievement than Moses parting the Red Sea.

Edited May 14 by G_Money

[Neeranam]

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not an open air prison.

You've got all the extremist Israel demonization points.

Hard to have any kind of discussion with such extremists. 

 

Are you denying the people living there face/d severe restrictions on their freedom and movement due to the control exerted by Israel over its border?

Do you disagree that Israel limits the ability of Gazans to travel?

Do you think Gazans have control of their own lives? 

I am most definitely not an extremist, I have no skin in this game. 

[Jingthing]

28 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 

Are you denying the people living there face/d severe restrictions on their freedom and movement due to the control exerted by Israel over its border?

Do you disagree that Israel limits the ability of Gazans to travel?

Do you think Gazans have control of their own lives? 

I am most definitely not an extremist, I have no skin in this game. 

Whatever Gaza was or wasn't before (though not an open air prison) that's rather academic now thanks to the Hamas terrorist attack on October 7.

[Neeranam]

29 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Whatever Gaza was or wasn't before (though not an open air prison) that's rather academic now thanks to the Hamas terrorist attack on October 7.

Nice avoidance of my questions. 

Interesting use of the word 'thanks'....

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Nice avoidance of my questions. 

Interesting use of the word 'thanks'....

Standard use of the word thanks, but I get it, as an extremist Israel demonizer, you're attracted to any conspiracy theory that paints Israel in the worse possible light. 

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Standard use of the word thanks, but I get it, as an extremist Israel demonizer, you're attracted to any conspiracy theory that paints Israel in the worse possible light. 

'demonizer'?

Maybe you haven't seen the protests again Israel all over the world! I am hardly alone in hating the Genocide. No need to resort to personal attacks just because you are running out of justification for what Israel are doing. 

 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

'demonizer'?

Maybe you haven't seen the protests again Israel all over the world! I am hardly alone in hating the Genocide. No need to resort to personal attacks just because you are running out of justification for what Israel are doing. 

 

I've noticed.

The chants for genocide of Jews.

The total ignorance of history.

The failure to mention October 7 or the hostages.

The way they terrorize Jewish students on campuses and an innocent young Israeli lady in Malmo at Eurovision.

Horrible pro Hamas rallies.

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, G_Money said:

“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.”

 

Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

He knew history repeats itself.

Agree, and we have all the israeli atrocities on film. There will be no way for netanyahu and his cabal to claim it never happened.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Agree, and we have all the israeli atrocities on film. There will be no way for netanyahu and his cabal to claim it never happened.

Hamas were kind enough to film it all themselves

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Neeranam said:

'demonizer'?

Maybe you haven't seen the protests again Israel all over the world! I am hardly alone in hating the Genocide. No need to resort to personal attacks just because you are running out of justification for what Israel are doing. 

 

They have nothing but personal attacks as there is no way they can justify what israel is doing in Gaza that is acceptable. All they can do is try and insult posters till they stop posting about what is happening.

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, Neeranam said:

So why are they killing Gazans kids and women, who are not Hamas? 

Israel have never left Gaza, which you falsely said too. 

It's called ethnic cleansing. IMO they are using that BS excuse that they are human shields to blow them up till the rest want to leave their own land.

[billd766]

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I've noticed.

The chants for genocide of Jews.

The total ignorance of history.

The failure to mention October 7 or the hostages.

The way they terrorize Jewish students on campuses and an innocent young Israeli lady in Malmo at Eurovision.

Horrible pro Hamas rallies.

And in the meantime thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women, children and even babies are slaughtered and wounded in Gaza.

 

Horrible murderous Israel, government, war cabinet and the IDF.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

And in the meantime thousands of innocent Palestinian men, women, children and even babies are slaughtered and wounded in Gaza.

 

Horrible murderous Israel, government, war cabinet and the IDF.

Horrible Hamas for starting this war and their acknowledged murderous policies of using human shields and doing nothing to prepare civilians for wat such as building bomb shelters.

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's called ethnic cleansing. IMO they are using that BS excuse that they are human shields to blow them up till the rest want to leave their own land.

The ethnic cleansing accusation is meaningless until we know what happens after this war.

What would have been wrong with temporary evacuation to Egypt?

[billd766]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Horrible Hamas for starting this war and their acknowledged murderous policies of using human shields and doing nothing to prepare civilians for wat such as building bomb shelters.

But for the umpteenth time, Hamas did NOT start this war. They certainly advanced it in October, but since then Israel has taken it to genocidal levels, though the war itself has been going on since the 1930s, firstly against the British, then against the Arab nations 2 or 3 times and now against the Palestinians in general and Hamas in particular. That last part I find odd, since the Israeli government set up Hamas itself as a willing partner in controlling Gaza.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

But for the umpteenth time, Hamas did NOT start this war. They certainly advanced it in October, but since then Israel has taken it to genocidal levels, though the war itself has been going on since the 1930s, firstly against the British, then against the Arab nations 2 or 3 times and now against the Palestinians in general and Hamas in particular. That last part I find odd, since the Israeli government set up Hamas itself as a willing partner in controlling Gaza.

Wrong.

You're talking about this conflict with your one sided anti Isreal propaganda.

This war definitely did start October 7 and Hamas definitely starred it.

[billd766]

21 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The ethnic cleansing accusation is meaningless until we know what happens after this war.

What would have been wrong with temporary evacuation to Egypt?

Did occur to you that Egypt might not want 2 million plus extra people? Where would they live especially, as they already had land and homes in Gaza. Who take over the homes, land, infrastructure etc in Gaza? Egypt or another country, such as Israel who are already doing so? Gaza does NOT belong to Israel It belongs to the Palestinians, and most of them want to keep it.

[Jingthing]

48 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Did occur to you that Egypt might not want 2 million plus extra people? Where would they live especially, as they already had land and homes in Gaza. Who take over the homes, land, infrastructure etc in Gaza? Egypt or another country, such as Israel who are already doing so? Gaza does NOT belong to Israel It belongs to the Palestinians, and most of them want to keep it.

You didn't read my post.

I suggested a temporary evacuation until the war is over.

Egypt said no.

I never suggested permanent moves.

Obviously neither Egypt or the Gazans want that.

I also think Hamas doesn't want to lose its human shields.

Your logic is poisoned by extreme bias.

Edited May 15 by Jingthing

[vinny41]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The ethnic cleansing accusation is meaningless until we know what happens after this war.

What would have been wrong with temporary evacuation to Egypt?

“All historical precedent points to the fact that when Palestinians are forced to leave Palestinian territory, they are not allowed to return back,” said H.A. Hellyer, a senior associate fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “Egypt doesn’t want to be complicit in ethnic cleansing in Gaza.”

https://apnews.com/article/palestinian-jordan-egypt-israel-refugee-502c06d004767d4b64848d878b66bd3d#:

Egypt has suggested that Israel house Palestinians in its Negev Desert, which neighbors the Gaza Strip, until it ends its military operations.

[Hanaguma]

5 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

“All historical precedent points to the fact that when Palestinians are forced to leave Palestinian territory, they are not allowed to return back,” said H.A. Hellyer, a senior associate fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “Egypt doesn’t want to be complicit in ethnic cleansing in Gaza.”

https://apnews.com/article/palestinian-jordan-egypt-israel-refugee-502c06d004767d4b64848d878b66bd3d#:

Egypt has suggested that Israel house Palestinians in its Negev Desert, which neighbors the Gaza Strip, until it ends its military operations.

That is a bit rich, considering that Egypt is 50 TIMES the size of Israel.   

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

But for the umpteenth time, Hamas did NOT start this war. They certainly advanced it in October, but since then Israel has taken it to genocidal levels, though the war itself has been going on since the 1930s, firstly against the British, then against the Arab nations 2 or 3 times and now against the Palestinians in general and Hamas in particular. That last part I find odd, since the Israeli government set up Hamas itself as a willing partner in controlling Gaza.

Simple question for you.

 

IF the attacks of October 7 had not happened, would Israel have retaliated? Would thousands of Gazans be dead? That may help you answer the question. 

 

And please, enough of the genocide nonsense.  Civilians die in war. Tragic, but inevitable.  Do you think Israel would continue to bomb Gaza if Hamas surrendered, and returned all the hostages? If yes, then it is a genocide. If no, then it is a war. That may help you answer the question.

[vinny41]

Just now, Hanaguma said:

That is a bit rich, considering that Egypt is 50 TIMES the size of Israel.   

Nothing to do with size Israel has form for refusing to let people return

After fighting stopped in the 1948 war, Israel refused to allow refugees to return to their homes. Since then, Israel has rejected Palestinian demands for a return of refugees as part of a peace deal, arguing that it would threaten the country’s Jewish majority.

https://apnews.com/article/palestinian-jordan-egypt-israel-refugee-502c06d004767d4b64848d878b66bd3d#