tonypattaya Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Heroin kills! Persons who trade it are trading in people's misery. Now this woman who would have been better jailed for life is trying to make money from her misdeeds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: I find that hard to believe - are you still in Thailand as a regular Expat or do you just visit? A number of farang volunteer with Charity organizations that do prison visits. not saying it’s the case here, but it exists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont confuse me Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 This slag was attempting to take heroin to her lovely family, (says a lot about her family). She gets arrested and banged up, gets a result only doing 7 out of a full life sentence. Now this scum is probably going to profit out of her crime. I sincerely hope that no one buys her book. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 20 minutes ago, ChipButty said: I watched the podcast on her only the other day, she had been an addict since the age of 14, she got what she deserved although she only did 7 years and 6 months in Thailand, went back to Aus to do another 5 years, I guess she got clean by going cold turkey while in prison. So the jail time probably saved her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smokey and the Bandit Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, Callmeishmael said: She's just lucky that she was arrested in Thailand. If she had been arrested in Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam or China, she would have been executed. Whilst you make a good point, I don't think lucky is the word I would use, she would have been 'lucky' if she had been arrested in Norway! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, Andre0720 said: “A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky So yes: The treatment of prisoners is one of the tests of civilisation of a country. Who has said that Thailand is a civilized society, in the western sense of the term? Certainly not me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 10 minutes ago, garzhe said: Interview with her here Bit misleading if she only did 7 years, did not serve 31 years "in" a Thai Prison, was sentenced to 31 years!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fondue zoo Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 What were all the other women incarcerated for I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 One of the many who do similar,she done wrong got caught and prison.Now the book comes out.She knew what she did and was lucky to get out after 7 yrs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post renaissanc Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 3 hours ago, proton said: The obligatory book full no doubt of self pity and exagerations If you can't be kind be silent. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkok19 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Do the crime... do the time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post renaissanc Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 10 minutes ago, Dont confuse me said: This slag was attempting to take heroin to her lovely family, (says a lot about her family). She gets arrested and banged up, gets a result only doing 7 out of a full life sentence. Now this scum is probably going to profit out of her crime. I sincerely hope that no one buys her book. you seem to be a very unhappy person. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: 58 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: If you're going on "a book and videos", you know nothing about the conditions of Klong Prem, the facility that also houses the women's prison. Without exception, all of them comprise over-dramatic exaggerations and lies with the only intentions being to create agitation and as much money as possible for the authors or producers. So you have been there? What was the charge and how long were you in prison? If I may ask. He is correct on some of what he is saying TG-- I done 3 years prison visiting when I lived in Pattaya late 90s-2000s... Not the women's section I have never been there. There are a lot of inaccuracies in the report--Lard yao prison is not the BKK Hilton, it is not far from Chatuchak market the Hilton is Bang Kwang Prison on other side of the river. $$$ Can buy you an easier life in it-- One of the people I visited had a 4 man cell in which he picked the other 3. food could be sent in, Things might have changed since my visiting days. Then Phone calls were made by using the Prison warders mobile phone if you paid him, his rate by the minute. The visiting area was bedlam, you had glass at the top and about 2 foot of wire mesh down below which you had to shout through, then look up at the person You would all sit in a line on the benches--and many times I had seen a Nigerian prisoner push his arm against the wire mesh and receive an injection from his visitor. They use to have a large Blackboard hanging up where they would write the number of Nationalities of the non Thai prisoners...Lao always had the highest number , followed by Nigerians. It's tough but not the worse conditions--that would be if you over stay your Visa--Suan Plu Immigration Prison......terrible conditions _ I believe they have change a little since my days visiting, but then it was basically 1 large cage , and everyone got thrown in it women & children with the men--sometimes nearly empty --then they would do round up of all the overstay places and it was packed, you had no place to sit or lay . I believe I read that after a string of sexual assaults the women and children are now separated. Yer there are some heart bark stories in there--- Not talking about the current Lady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 minutes ago, ujayujay said: Have you ever been to a Thai prison, dumßass No need for personal insults. No, but my relatives worked in Klong Prem until they retired and I have been there, they both retired baht millionaires! Like on the outside if you have money it makes life in a Thai prison much easier. This women was enabling human suffering and deserves no sympathy, or book sales. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, webfact said: She found me a spot to sleep, but there was literally no visible floor space,” she said. The woman instructed others to lie down, revealing a sliver of the floor about nine inches wide. “That was my bed for the next seven years.” And you deserved every second.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, renaissanc said: If you can't be kind be silent. Are you another one of those forum policeman telling other posters what they should not be doing? What is kind about smuggling heroin? nothing it's dealing in human suffering. I must have read all these prison books and they all exaggerate and invent stories. The best book of of course is by that old bugger David McMillan who escaped from the Prem in the 90's. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, webfact said: I didn’t use the toilet for a month because I was so embarrassed. I think the alternative is more embarrassing.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 5 minutes ago, oxo1947 said: 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: 2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: dramatic exaggerations and lies with the only intentions being to create agitation and as much money as possible for the authors or producers. Expand So you have been there? What was the charge and how long were you in prison? If I may ask. He is correct on some of what he is saying TG-- I am 100% correct on all that I have posted about Klong Prem, the place that housed the section where she was jailed. I was in there. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealthychef Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, webfact said: In 2000, Holly, then aged 29, was caught trying to mail a parcel of heroin to her family in Perth OK now that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of in my life. Reminds me of a couple once that killed the woman's husband so they could run off together, and took pictures of the body dismemberment. They had the pics developed at Walgreens. Derp derp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 8 minutes ago, oxo1947 said: There are a lot of inaccuracies in the report--Lard yao prison is not the BKK Hilton, it is not far from Chatuchak market the Hilton is Bang Kwang Prison on other side of the river. That's right...but of course there are inaccuracies in her version, there have to be in order to juice up an otherwise not very interesting, nor lucrative. story. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oxo1947 Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said: I am 100% correct on all that I have posted about Klong Prem, the place that housed the section where she was jailed. I was in there. When I am writing that you are correct on some (I should have put most) of what you say Lou. I am relating to my experience over 25 years ago--and then only as a visitor-- maybe your stay was more recent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 34 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said: My son was locked up in the Immigration jail for several days whilst his deportation was arranged. I understand all foreign "criminals" who are locked up are subsequently deported. He was caught working without a permit...Hardly a criminal act! It is, as he discovered. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: She is probably exaggerating but means that she was embarrassed to have a bowel movement without privacy. Had to do that many times on patrol in the jungles of the Vietnam war. Find a spot where you'll be as hidden as possible when squatting down or lying on your side, pull your pants down just enough (never take them off in an active area), squat with your a hole in fill view of your buddies (so you're looking forward of you). Do your dump or pee and as quickly as possible cover it to hide the smell as much as possible, because the enemy would quite possibly smell the faeces and know foreigners were in the area. No chance of bodily clean up, very quickly get your pants up and rifle / ammunition magazines / gear ready for any action that might happen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, worgeordie said: 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: Yes, I have. Yes, you may ask but that is my business. Was that the women's prison ,Lou .... Obviously, not, but the men's and the women's sections are both part of the same Klong Prem prison. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 3 hours ago, seajae said: trying to make money from her crime, she should be put back and the book destroyed. She deliberately tried to send drugs knowing it was highly illegal, she should not be able to make money from her crime, will be total BS trying to suck people in with all her BS, should not have let her out flippin ek.. It gets very slippery on that soap box on the top of an ivory tower... its a long fall from that exaggerated position of virtue.... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, steven100 said: 1 hour ago, worgeordie said: Was that the women's prison ,Lou .... regards worgeordie yes ... he wore a wig You must have been there to know that. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 39 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said: My son was locked up in the Immigration jail for several days whilst his deportation was arranged. I understand all foreign "criminals" who are locked up are subsequently deported. He was caught working without a permit...Hardly a criminal act! IDC (with mandatory deportation) and Klong Prem are entirely different things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nikmar Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 37 minutes ago, PJ71 said: Many of books from former ( or still active criminals ) are some of the best selling books there's been. hardly - just a slight exaggeration. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, nikmar said: hardly - just a slight exaggeration. not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) The prem is for prison sentences of 15 years or more, regardless of the crime Edited May 16 by proton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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