Which "conspiracy theories" do you believe are true (or have some basis in truth)?

[KhunLA]

4 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Oct 7th war was a huge mistake for Israel. The amount of out and out anti-Jewish and full blown Nazi propaganda out in the open on X (previously Twitter) is astounding. Musk is letting them post it and it's not looking good for Israel.

 

The best one I saw was an AI generated video (about 10 minutes) with a translation of Mein Kampf and simulated voice of Hitler complete with images. Really impressive actually and they captured the tone of his voice from his speeches in German.

 

Anyways before Oct 7th I never heard anything from Mein Kampf but now I have. Same theme with BLM in 2020. I didn't now much about crime at all before that but once they issue was breached I learned about the absurd levels of violent crime committed by blacks in America.

 

Dancing Israelis was forgotten to most the public but it's being brought up again due to the conflict in Israel. Bad move for the Jews as they seem to be losing public favor.

Freedom of Speech / Expression is a beautiful thing ...

 

... All Hail Elon 😎

[Yagoda]

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

. Bad move for the Jews as they seem to be losing public favor.

Nobody like Jews outside of Israel and the USA. They dont care. They got plenty of firepower. And Mossad.

[bokningar]

31 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

#2 is the potential conspiracy. They were maybe trying to cover something up. The fact the Ukraine war started following this event is interesting too.

The war in Ukraine started 2014, that is a fact.

[KhunLA]

4 minutes ago, bokningar said:

The war in Ukraine started 2014, that is a fact.

Seeds for, planted even earlier ...  

[Yagoda]

Hmm interesting. Here are some:

 

1. The Feds knew about Joes involvement in Hunters Chinese business and the extent of corruption and influence peddling and hid it.

 

2. Joe Biden got the US Attorneys office to try and sneak a plea bargain for Hunter past the Courts.

 

3. Barak Obama and Hillary Clinto and the heirarchy of the Dems phonied up a Russian scandal agaist Donald Trump.

 

4. The White House met with Fulton County prosecutors to plan the prosecustion of Danald Trump.

 

5. The White house met with Braggs office to plan the prosecution  of Trump and even gave them a specialized prosecutor from the DOJ.

 

6. The Feds had copies of all the documents that Trump allegedly stole.

 

7. The Feds manipulated the Mar a Largo documents to allege retention of classified documents and then lied about it in Court.

 

8. COVID came from a Chinese Lab and was funded in part by the US government.

 

[Walker88]

28 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

 

6. The Feds had copies of all the documents that Trump allegedly stole.

 

 

 

What the heck does that even mean? Do you think classified documents are like the Hope Diamond, and there's only one?

 

The docs are in various computer systems, printed out if need be. What the wedding planner stole were copies, which he has no right to possess. Of course the USG has copies of all of them. That doesn't change the facts of his crime. Another employee in the IC couldn't take a stack of docs home and use as an excuse: you have copies, so no harm done.

 

The importance of retrieving the stolen property from the Thief-in-Chief was two fold:

 

-to make sure no such documents were publicly available in a club anyone willing to pony up $200K can join

 

-to do a damage assessment to see what and who might have been compromised

[Walker88]

Conspiracy theories are for society’s bottom dwellers who need to feel special because they “know” things due to their “research”. Whether it’s QAnon, Pizzagate, 9-11 Truthers, Chemtrailers, Deep State, Lunartics, Bilderbergers, Skull&Bones, 33rd Degree Freemasons, JFK, or 10' Shape-Shifting Lizard People from the rogue planet Nibiru, it gives them so much joy to be ‘in the know’ that they ignore any and all contrary evidence and facts. Believers can knock themselves silly believing whatever gives them pleasure.

 

It’s a good cottage industry for everyone from Alex Jones to makers of Hollywood B-fare, as the market for such drivel is big enough for a few people to make a good living feeding the forlorn.

[connda]

Which "conspiracy theories" in the past, and especially in the last four years, have turned out to be factual conspiracies?

That's a better question as well as being more relevant.

The term "conspiracy theorist" is a pejorative use to demean and discredit anyone who challenges the narratives within the current Overton Window.  Over time, the Overton Window shifts and what was once "Unthinkable" or "Unacceptable" because accepted as factual.  The corollary to this is that given sufficient time - hard fact will always surface and factual data prevails at the end of the day.  On the flip side, utter nonsense is also proved to be exactly that: absurdity, babble, baloney, bunk, craziness, drivel, fiction, folly, foolishness, gibberish, madness, rubbish, silliness, stupidity, tosh, and trash.  But I refuse to use the term "conspiracy theory" as the word is essentially weaponize in order to stifle, squelch, and summarily end debate.  And to me personally, debate - even if it's about something I consider to be nonsensical - is more important than considering yourself to be a superior human mind and reverting to ad-hominid attacks and name calling:  "You're a stupid Conspiracy Theorist!!!"  In my humble opinion, people who go that route are either smug jerks who lack the intelligence to defend a counter-argument, or they are actually state actors spewing propaganda and using the term "conspiracy theorists" in order to shut down any investigative inquiry. 

If you really want to investigate the veracity of what are referred to as current "conspiracy theories," then step away from State Department and Foreign Office's propaganda, turn off your corporate cable news, and follow the new generation of investigative reporters such as Matt Taibbi.
In my day and age, Jack Anderson was the Matt Taibbi of my era.  The goal of true investigative reporting is to "muckrake" and uncover the facts and realities that state and corporate actors, and those with the wealth, capital, and power which allows them to sway the current accepted narratives via the use of corporate media and government pronouncements. 

 

Study history:  Governments and corporations lie through their teeth to benefit themselves and their bottom lines of power, greed, and avarice.

[KannikaP]

Gamma Globulin and GeorgeGeorgia are the same person.

[EVENKEEL]

Wasn't long ago even a mention of a certain laptop was a conspiracy. Talk about "did covid originate in wuhan lab" was crazy talk. Then you throw in a few flat earther comments to make all conspiracies sound crazy and muddy the waters. 

[Yagoda]

42 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Conspiracy theories are for society’s bottom dwellers who need to feel special because they “know” things due to their “research”. Whether it’s QAnon, Pizzagate, 9-11 Truthers, Chemtrailers, Deep State, Lunartics, Bilderbergers, Skull&Bones, 33rd Degree Freemasons, JFK, or 10' Shape-Shifting Lizard People from the rogue planet Nibiru, it gives them so much joy to be ‘in the know’ that they ignore any and all contrary evidence and facts. Believers can knock themselves silly believing whatever gives them pleasure.

 

It’s a good cottage industry for everyone from Alex Jones to makers of Hollywood B-fare, as the market for such drivel is big enough for a few people to make a good living feeding the forlorn.

Says the white supremecist with the HH in his user name

[BangkokReady]

13 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

the fact they said initially 1 shot is all needed and fixes all

 

Any source for this?  I believe it was known before the vaccines that you could be reinfected, so why would anyone think that a covid vaccine would be anything like other vaccines that provide permanent protection?

[Yagoda]

20 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Wasn't long ago even a mention of a certain laptop was a conspiracy. Talk about "did covid originate in wuhan lab" was crazy talk. Then you throw in a few flat earther comments to make all conspiracies sound crazy and muddy the waters. 

So many conspiracies come true, in whole or in part.  How about this one, LBJ and the elites tried to cover up the fact that Oswald was a commie scumbag owned by the Cubans and Russians and that the government screwd up in their security procedures,  in order to prevent the US public from clamoring for war.

[BangkokReady]

4 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

That Joe Biden has dementia and his Son should be in jail.

 

There are people who think these are conspiracy theories?  I thought they were more "open secrets".

[Yagoda]

Hey how about these

 

Donald Trump is an agent of the Kremlin and was communicating with them via the Alpha Bank secret backchannel.

 

Justice Kavanugh and his buddies ran drunken rape clubs where innocent coed were violated.

 

Donald Trump is a neo nazi and called them fine people.

 

 

[BangkokReady]

I think Alex Jones's "They're turning the frogs gay" turned out to be true, but it was something to do with chemicals changing the sex of frogs or something.  There was also the Joe Rogan Ivermectin thing, where he took a medical drug desinged for humans to treat covid and the MSM said he was taking medicine designed for horses.

 

The thing that is most amazing is that nobody really cares.  Rogan clearly said that he took a drug designed for humans and prescribed by a doctor, the press literally lied about it (presumably because someone told them to), and nobody cares.

 

It's really shocking the amount of lying the MSM gets away with.  Not just the scale, but the complete lack of outrage and failure to learn not to trust the press.

[BangkokReady]

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Donald Trump is a neo nazi and called them fine people.

 

The amount of lies that the press tell about Trump is ridiculous.  But the left have power and hate Trump, so nothing is done.

 

Sad.

[EVENKEEL]

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So many conspiracies come true, in whole or in part.  How about this one, LBJ and the elites tried to cover up the fact that Oswald was a commie scumbag owned by the Cubans and Russians and that the government screwd up in their security procedures,  in order to prevent the US public from clamoring for war.

Yes, you had a nice list of them earlier.

[KannikaP]

13 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

or the fact they said initially 1 shot is all needed and fixes all

Was that Lee Harvey Oswald's shot?

[potless]

The Thai revenue department has deployed teams of experts to scrutinise the Aseannow foreign income tax threads. Apparently hoping that a poster may be able to decipher their tax rules.

[Dmaxdan]

People who, in this day and age are still adamant that the earth is flat are the ones who make me laugh. Most of the same people probably believe that the sun is some form of deity...

[Presnock]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Freedom of Speech / Expression is a beautiful thing ...

 

... All Hail Elon 😎

One fact for sure in all this - Israel is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language and worships the same GOD that it did 3000 years ago.

[Baht Simpson]

Not one for most conspiracy theories but I do believe there's more to the Diana story than meets the eye.

 

And Robert Maxwell.

[Robert Paulson]

A modern day conspiracy theory is just a synonym for a fact 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Robert Paulson said:

A modern day conspiracy theory is just a synonym for a fact 

Ridiculous

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

One fact for sure in all this - Israel is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language and worships the same GOD that it did 3000 years ago.

Hinduism has them beat ... 😎

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, potless said:

The Thai revenue department has deployed teams of experts to scrutinise the Aseannow foreign income tax threads. Apparently hoping that a poster may be able to decipher their tax rules.

tell them to call mike.

[Seppius]

Kate and William have split up due to him having an affair

 

Yesterday at the cup final (well done Man U) he was not wearing his ring, not been photographed together properly for months

[Presnock]

41 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Hinduism has them beat ... 😎

Except when Hinduism came about, the country wasn't called India plus the areas where Hinduism spread were called many different names and many different Gods worshiped throughout their history, but I am definitely not any kind of expert on religions of any type.  

 

[John Drake]

MRNa "vaccines"

Cashless society

Bohemian Grove