Popular Post Senior Player Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 There appears to be confusion amongst many of you in the chat. The wife WASN'T propositioned, it was his 15-year-old daughter. The wife had already left the party by the time the perp had delivered a single punch to the Russian for propositioning his daughter. The wife says so in another story featured in the DM. It says: his Thai wife, 28, said she had also attended the party but left early to go to work. At around 3am, she claimed she received a text from her husband saying he wanted to go home. She said: 'I returned to the villa and found him walking along the street, so I took him back inside. 'When I asked him what happened, he told me that while they were drinking, the Russian man started to sexually harass our daughter, even though his own wife was also there at the party. The harassment escalated until the man finally propositioned our daughter. This angered my husband so he punched him once and knocked him out.' An acquaintance of the Russian who died said both men met each other for the first time at the party. She said: 'They were drinking together normally until a row broke out. I didn't know what nationality the man was, but he punched (the Russian man), who hit his head on the ground. I was so shocked because there was a lot of blood.' The father, reportedly from Wales, was arrested on Monday afternoon at his home in the Sattahip district, around 10 miles from the pool villa. He told police: 'I did not think my punch would lead to the man's death. I regret my actions.' The headline in the DM is also rather salacious as it implies the Russian was a pedo when the so-called child is 15-years-old and looks much older than her years. Could it be that the Russian thought she was older too? Who really knows what was going on in the Russian's head, but he clearly overstepped social norms and got a slap for his offensive behaviour. Unfortunately, he cracked his head on concrete and died as a result. I hope that helps clear up any confusion. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celsius Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 15 minutes ago, transam said: Steady one ol' chap, no need to bring me into your girlie tantrum......... Don't you have a visa run to Laos coming up? Its almost time "ol chap" Off you go 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 9 hours ago, hotchilli said: A few cuffs around the head often works, when the guy dies it doesn't. Typical Russian, realises he's <deleted> up the party and thinks he can head butt the concrete and get away with it. You win some, you lose some. You don't mess with an Alpha Male Brit's Wife. Period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, Celsius said: Don't you have a visa run to Laos coming up? Its almost time "ol chap" Off you go What are you on about, you creep..........🤔 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celsius Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 12 minutes ago, Senior Player said: but he clearly overstepped social norms and got a slap for his offensive behaviour. Unfortunately, he cracked his head on concrete and died as a result. I hope that helps clear up any confusion. No it does not. You mean the Brit killer overstepped his social norms by bringing a 15 year old to a pool sex party? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 33 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Says someone about to drink his follow on milk You are scaring me 😱 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Senior Player Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 8 minutes ago, Celsius said: No it does not. You mean the Brit killer overstepped his social norms by bringing a 15 year old to a pool sex party? I don't mean anything, that's your assumption. But the Russian DID overstep social norms, like it or not. Or perhaps you think it's normal to proposition another man's daughter when your own wife is at the same party? And as far as I'm aware, there is no law that says a 15-year-old (probably going on 16) must not attend a pool party when abroad on holiday with her father, irrespective of the time of night. If there is some unwritten law, it must be from the early 19th century. 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 24 minutes ago, Senior Player said: The headline in the DM is also rather salacious as it implies the Russian was a pedo when the so-called child is 15-years-old and looks much older than her years. Could it be that the Russian thought she was older too? Who really knows what was going on in the Russian's head, but he clearly overstepped social norms and got a slap for his offensive behaviour. Unfortunately, he cracked his head on concrete and died as a result. Yeah, the Russian was a sleaze. Seems everybody there was a sleaze. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Perhaps think before one acts? Proven once again, one blow can kill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaopad999 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 7 hours ago, Excogitator said: In the real Thailand, outside of places like Pattaya, it is, in fact, very rarely the case. It is a common misunderstanding and a fallacy, for some, to project what they experience in those places onto the rest of Thailand. true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 17 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: You are scaring me 😱 Never mind petal, you can sleep with the light on tonight, so you feel safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WDSmart Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 The charges here, if any, will all depend on what the "sexual advances" were. If they were enough to be considered "assault," then I think the Brit will not be charged. If they were just leers and words, then the Brit should be charged with at least assault or even something worse, like involuntary manslaughter (if there is such a thing in Thailand). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlexRich Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, off road pat said: This is the main problem now in this world !!! people reading what they want and not what is written !!! There is no mention of sexual assault !!! only sexual advances !!! and you make it as a sexual assault already !!! Oh, that’s all right then? Just have a chat and a coffee with a persistent sex pest. That’ll sort it out. The article is not clear on what exactly he did but “sexual advances” covers a multitude of sins, you’ve chosen to write it off as a minor matter, but advances suggest more than a chat on What’s App. He didn’t get lamped for nothing. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 hours ago, AlexRich said: Yes, did you? Or were you stoned? You might want to get a refund for the education you paid for. Comprehension isn't your strong suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 hours ago, AlexRich said: Do you think the Russian asked her to lunch? Inappropriate advance means a little more than that ... like getting handsy or otherwise physically over familiar. Either way, I don't blame the Brit for what he did ... and I doubt he'd get more than a slap on the wrist if he were Thai. Getting handsy is sexual assault. An inappropriate advance would be saying I want to make you cream in front of her husband. See the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 28 minutes ago, stoner said: Getting handsy is sexual assault. An inappropriate advance would be saying I want to make you cream in front of her husband. See the difference. You can interpret "inappropriate advance" more widely than just inappropriate words. The fact is that not one knows the exact details of the so-called advance, and whether it involved placing hands on the subject. And it wasn't just one advance, according to a report that I viewed on You Tube it was escalatory ... so the guy had enough and lamped him. Your interpretation of what constitutes an inappropriate advance is narrow, mine is wider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubber Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13466535/Brit-35-kills-Russian-paedophile-single-punch-propositioning-underage-daughter-Thailand.html Article from UK newspaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 39 minutes ago, stoner said: You might want to get a refund for the education you paid for. Comprehension isn't your strong suit. Apparently, interpretation is not your strong suit. Phillips & Associates Attorneys at Law What are considered sexual advances in the workplace? "There's no rubric or rulebook on what constitutes a sexual advance. For example, it could be physical touching, it could be groping, and it could also be more subtle types of physical touching. And a lot of time these types of physical conduct are accompanied by perverse comments, propositions, emails, text messages ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 minutes ago, tubber said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13466535/Brit-35-kills-Russian-paedophile-single-punch-propositioning-underage-daughter-Thailand.html Article from UK newspaper. That clears a few things up, seems the Russian deserved the slap.......🤗 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 minutes ago, AlexRich said: Apparently, interpretation is not your strong suit. Phillips & Associates Attorneys at Law What are considered sexual advances in the workplace? "There's no rubric or rulebook on what constitutes a sexual advance. For example, it could be physical touching, it could be groping, and it could also be more subtle types of physical touching. And a lot of time these types of physical conduct are accompanied by perverse comments, propositions, emails, text messages ..." little outdated. in most places touching is considered sexual assault. a groping is definitely assault and not an advancement. comments propositions emails texts all sexual harassment. touching in any way crosses the line. same concept as physical assault. the moment you touch another person no matter the severity it is considered assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 minutes ago, transam said: 7 minutes ago, tubber said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13466535/Brit-35-kills-Russian-paedophile-single-punch-propositioning-underage-daughter-Thailand.html Article from UK newspaper. That clears a few things up, seems the Russian deserved the slap.......🤗 so not his wife i guess ? initially it was reported it was over his wife no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 minutes ago, stoner said: so not his wife i guess ? initially it was reported it was over his wife no ? His wife wasn't there, she went home....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 8 minutes ago, transam said: His wife wasn't there, she went home....... She came back I guess. She met him outside as he was pacing around. They went back into the villa and the incident followed. According to daily mail. Either that or I'm too stoned to read correctly. Edited May 28 by stoner 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonniePeverley Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 8 hours ago, Keep Right said: Another Brit, same old story. It seems the worst of the worst of the Brits come to Thailand. Horrific set of British in Pattaya. They're all pretty much racist too. Horrific Russians too. Not a great mix. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, DonniePeverley said: Horrific set of British in Pattaya. They're all pretty much racist too. Horrific Russians too. Not a great mix. Then don't mix with them.............🤔 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbyClarke Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Nothing good happens at that time of the morning 🌄 Lots of Russian folk in Thailand jails who will enjoy rubbing the head and neck tattoos off with cleaning fluid. Unless he has the dollar, the movie 365 days springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonniePeverley Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, transam said: Then don't mix with them.............🤔 Try not to. But i'd say 99% of British guys there are racists. Few drinks down them, and it all comes out regarding foreigners, Brexit, and the same old garbage. Irony being many of them are immigrants in Thailand themselves (not expats), can't speak a bloody word of Thai, and don't really intergrate into Thai society (or Spanish if they're out there). Even if Brexit is damaged their country and their currency they see it as worthwhile, despite it achieving nothing. Furthermore, it amazes me how many long term immigrant Brits in Thailand care so much about immigrants coming to the UK. Astonishng and the irony is totally lost on them. Horrific. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted May 28 Popular Post Share Posted May 28 Just now, DonniePeverley said: Try not to. But i'd say 99% of British guys there are racists. Few drinks down them, and it all comes out regarding foreigners, Brexit, and the same old garbage. Irony being many of them are immigrants in Thailand themselves (not expats), can't speak a bloody word of Thai, and don't really intergrate into Thai society (or Spanish if they're out there). Even if Brexit is damaged their country and their currency they see it as worthwhile, despite it achieving nothing. Furthermore, it amazes me how many long term immigrant Brits in Thailand care so much about immigrants coming to the UK. Astonishng and the irony is totally lost on them. Horrific. Yawn.. We have another winner of the sweeping generalisation bigot award... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Seems a bit convenient that the story suddenly changes from harassing his wife to propositioning his teenage daughter. 🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonniePeverley Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said: Yawn.. We have another winner of the sweeping generalisation bigot award... I'd like to thank the racist Brits in Pattaya, my parents, and humanity for this beautiful award. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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