Popular Post Social Media Posted June 6 Popular Post Posted June 6 In a stark warning, Russian President Vladimir Putin has suggested that Moscow might supply weapons to countries targeting Western facilities, a move he claimed would be in retaliation for the West's delivery of long-range weapons to Ukraine. Speaking to foreign journalists at the annual St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, Putin addressed the escalating conflict and the involvement of Western powers in arming Ukraine. Putin criticized Western countries, particularly the United States and Germany, for permitting Ukraine to strike targets inside Russia. He emphasized the potential repercussions of these actions, stating that they could lead to “very serious problems.” "If someone thinks it is possible to supply such weapons to a war zone to attack our territory and create problems for us, why don't we have the right to supply weapons of the same class to regions of the world where there will be strikes on sensitive facilities of those countries?" Putin said. "That is, the response can be asymmetric. We will think about it." Although Putin did not specify which countries might receive Russian weapons, his comments clearly conveyed a threat to retaliate against Western nations. The statement came in response to Germany's recent decision to allow Ukraine to use German-made long-range weapons to hit targets inside Russia. "When they say that there will be more missiles which will hit targets on Russian territory, this definitively destroys Russian-German relations," Putin remarked. The United States has also played a significant role in this dynamic. President Joe Biden has given Ukraine permission to use American-supplied weapons to strike targets in Russia, but with the stipulation that they be used only near the Kharkiv region. The White House has explicitly restricted Ukraine from using long-range ATACMS missiles on Russian soil. Despite these limitations, Ukraine has recently used US weapons to conduct strikes inside Russia, as confirmed by a US senator and a Western official to the Associated Press. The conflict around Kharkiv has intensified, with fierce fighting reported in the north-east of the city, close to Ukraine's northern border. Kharkiv, Ukraine's second-largest city, lies just 30 kilometers (18 miles) from the border, making it a critical area in the ongoing war. In response to the situation, UK Foreign Secretary Lord Cameron stated that it is up to Ukraine to decide how to use British weapons, affirming Ukraine's right to strike targets on Russian territory. This stance underscores the broader Western support for Ukraine’s defense strategy, despite the potential for escalating tensions with Russia. Amid these developments, allegations have emerged regarding the involvement of other nations in the conflict. Ukraine has accused North Korea of supplying missiles being used within its territory, while Western intelligence agencies have reported that Russia is utilizing Iranian-made drones. These accusations highlight the complex web of international involvement in the war, which began with Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. During his speech at the forum, Putin also addressed the possibility of nuclear escalation, challenging the Western assumption that Russia would never resort to using nuclear weapons. "For some reason, the West believes that Russia will never use it," Putin said when asked by Reuters about the risk of nuclear escalation over Ukraine. "We have a nuclear doctrine, look what it says. If someone's actions threaten our sovereignty and territorial integrity, we consider it possible for us to use all means at our disposal. This should not be taken lightly, superficially." Putin dismissed the notion that Russia has plans to attack NATO territory, calling such ideas "complete nonsense." He criticized the West for perceiving Russia as a threat, arguing that this mindset is counterproductive. "You should not make Russia out to be the enemy. You're only hurting yourself with this, you know?" Putin said. "They thought that Russia wanted to attack NATO. Have you gone completely crazy? That is as thick as this table. Who came up with this? It is just complete rubbish, you know? Total nonsense." The remarks by Putin reflect the heightened tensions between Russia and the West, exacerbated by the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and the strategic decisions made by both sides. As the war continues, the potential for further escalation remains a significant concern, with global implications for security and stability. Credit: BBC 2024-06-07 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 1 1 3
Popular Post Tug Posted June 6 Popular Post Posted June 6 An attack on a NATO nation with Russian support in my opinion should trigger nato 3 3 1 1 3
Popular Post Tug Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 21 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said: world war 3 coming soon to countries in your area. Hmm I doubt it nato has no interest in occupying Russia nato does have an interest in forcing Russia to respect other nations borders and sovereignty though 3 1 1 1 2 5
Popular Post retarius Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 2 hours ago, Tug said: An attack on a NATO nation with Russian support in my opinion should trigger nato But attacks on Russia with US or NATO shouldn't trigger Russia to attack NATO????? Strange logic you have. 1 1 1 3 3 7
Popular Post Tug Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 1 minute ago, retarius said: But attacks on Russia with US or NATO shouldn't trigger Russia to attack NATO????? Strange logic you have. NATO isn’t attacking Russia the Ukrainian nation is breaking up Russian attacks on their country as the stage up on Russian territory simple as that tell your leader to return to Russia then pay reparations 2 5 1 3 1
Popular Post retarius Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 Just now, Tug said: NATO isn’t attacking Russia the Ukrainian nation is breaking up Russian attacks on their country as the stage up on Russian territory simple as that tell your leader to return to Russia then pay reparations Don't be silly. 4 3 2 3 4
Popular Post Tug Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 1 minute ago, retarius said: Don't be silly. Why is that silly Russia is in the wrong 2 2
Popular Post gargamon Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 2 minutes ago, retarius said: Don't be silly. Try not to be so stupid. And you forgot to put the “d“ in your name. 2 1 1 3
Popular Post Gweiloman Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 If the western leaders claim to be the adults in the room and thinks that Putin is a mad man, then surely they should be able to see that their actions will only lead to further escalation. They are playing a dangerous game of bluff against a nation that rightly perceives an existential threat to itself from the US. 1 2 4 2 5
Popular Post John Drake Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 So, he's going to arm Mexico to attack the US. Would probably have better luck doing so with Canada. 1 5
Popular Post bradiston Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 52 minutes ago, Gweiloman said: If the western leaders claim to be the adults in the room and thinks that Putin is a mad man, then surely they should be able to see that their actions will only lead to further escalation. They are playing a dangerous game of bluff against a nation that rightly perceives an existential threat to itself from the US. With Putin at the helm they're a fricking nuisance. His attack on Ukraine has triggered massive global problems, particularly in Europe. Regime change is all that's required. Somewhere along the line he has to be taken out. No war required. 2 3 2 1 3
Popular Post harryviking Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 That pig-faced Putler barely have enough weapon to fight in Ukraine! How could he arm anyone else?? And who will be so dumb as to present themselves as a target from the west by helping him?? Lol! Yeah, sure.... 1 3 1 4
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 Putin playing the victimhood card. Sound very familiar with another loser. 3 2 3
Popular Post johng Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 5 hours ago, Gweiloman said: they should be able to see that their actions will only lead to further escalation. They are playing a dangerous game of bluff against a nation that rightly perceives an existential threat to itself from the US. I said in another thread that they ( the US EU UK NATO) would act all surprised and offended when Putin says he will target the arms before they reach Ukraine and was poo pooed for it 2 3
Popular Post johng Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 4 hours ago, bradiston said: With Putin at the helm they're a fricking nuisance. His attack on Ukraine has triggered massive global problems, particularly in Europe. Regime change is all that's required. Somewhere along the line he has to be taken out. No war required. US of good ole A has instigated far more wars and massive global problems than Russia, regime change is all that's required. 2 1 3 3 1 1 1
Hummin Posted June 7 Posted June 7 8 hours ago, Tug said: NATO isn’t attacking Russia the Ukrainian nation is breaking up Russian attacks on their country as the stage up on Russian territory simple as that tell your leader to return to Russia then pay reparations Nato is in the way for Russias interests, and looking back on the history, thats a bad idea no matter who it is. Soviet impacted western interests in Asia 50 - 60 years ago, we know the results of that. Ukraine is Russias back yard and holds essential resources they want, not different from South Amerika if someone remembers the chaos those countries had to deal with, and who was sponsored from the Usa to rebel and create chaos and physical interventions? This is facts that have to be counted in to the discussion when you see the Russian methods and aggressive politics as well interventions in their back yard. 1 1 1
Popular Post Hummin Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said: A sober and on point analysis Edited June 7 by Hummin 2 1
Popular Post tgw Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 (edited) 9 hours ago, retarius said: But attacks on Russia with US or NATO shouldn't trigger Russia to attack NATO????? Strange logic you have. what do you mean with trigger ? there is no need for a trigger, as Ruzzia has already attacked its neighbor unprovoked. a trigger is something mechanical, meaning when something happens, a predetermined mechanism will cause consequences to happen. in Ruzzia, there is nothing to trigger, while in NATO there is something that can be triggered, article 5, which will cause NATO countries to collectively defend the attacked country. as usual, more nonsense coming from you. Ruzzia can attack NATO at any time on Putin 's whim, no need for a trigger. Edited June 7 by tgw 1 3 1 1
Popular Post tgw Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 7 hours ago, Gweiloman said: If the western leaders claim to be the adults in the room and thinks that Putin is a mad man, then surely they should be able to see that their actions will only lead to further escalation. They are playing a dangerous game of bluff against a nation that rightly perceives an existential threat to itself from the US. Quite the contrary. Western leaders don't think Putin is a madman. They think he is a megalomaniac, evil, murderous and criminal dictator. But a rational one. And he is playing the bluff. Sadly, his bluffs have worked partially. Maybe you could demonstrate that "rightly perceived threat against Ruzzia's existence by the US". 2 2 1 2
Jingthing Posted June 7 Posted June 7 12 minutes ago, Hummin said: A sober and on point analysis Doctorow lacks credibility.
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 7 hours ago, John Drake said: So, he's going to arm Mexico to attack the US. Would probably have better luck doing so with Canada. Mexico isn't an enemy but his threat would imply Cuba or Venezuela. It's total bull. Neither would want to be made a target that way. They have enough of their own problems already. 1 1 2
NativeBob Posted June 7 Posted June 7 Wow, some posters do have plenty of time! I thought AN is about Thailand and some ASEAN coutries, why even bother to discuss what is happening in coutries far-far away. Seriously who cares? IMHO 2 1
Popular Post Hummin Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 17 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Doctorow lacks credibility. You can comment on his analysis instead of using childish laughing emotions and just state he lack of credibillity. 1 1 1
bradiston Posted June 7 Posted June 7 1 hour ago, johng said: US of good ole A has instigated far more wars and massive global problems than Russia, regime change is all that's required. The US isn't threatening Europe right now. Pointless what about. 2
Popular Post bradiston Posted June 7 Popular Post Posted June 7 6 hours ago, bradiston said: With Putin at the helm they're a fricking nuisance. His attack on Ukraine has triggered massive global problems, particularly in Europe. Regime change is all that's required. Somewhere along the line he has to be taken out. No war required. Oh ok, let me be as plain as I can be. Without Putin there would be no war in Ukraine, no oil, gas, animal feed, grain and fertilizer crisis. No sanctions. No threat to Russia. There never was one in any case. He just invented it all. 4 1 1 3
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