riclag Posted Friday at 06:22 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:22 AM Newsom is the lefts answer for continued power According to them he ‘s a 8 year man methinks The California governor has made clear that he’s not running for president in 2024. But he’s getting antsy. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/04/gavin-newsom-biden-trump-2024/678051/ 'You don't turn your back!': Newsom defiantly pushes back on calls for Biden to step down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted Friday at 06:26 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:26 AM Bring him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Friday at 06:27 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:27 AM 4 minutes ago, riclag said: Newsom is the lefts answer for continued power According to them he ‘s a 8 year man methinks The California governor has made clear that he’s not running for president in 2024. But he’s getting antsy. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/04/gavin-newsom-biden-trump-2024/678051/ 'You don't turn your back!': Newsom defiantly pushes back on calls for Biden to step down Looks kind of ......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted Friday at 06:31 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 06:31 AM (edited) 19 minutes ago, susanlea said: Looks kind of ......... ……Hollywood john Wayne he aint , Ronald Reagan he ain’t , What is he? He ain’t my hero! I livid there, in California . Edited Friday at 06:47 AM by riclag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Friday at 06:33 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:33 AM Oh no Newsom is a climate crazy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted Friday at 06:36 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:36 AM 4 minutes ago, riclag said: ……Hollywood Now there is a thought, A Hollywood dream boy versus a wannabe New York mob boss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susanlea Posted Friday at 06:36 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:36 AM 5 minutes ago, riclag said: ……Hollywood He looks kind of fake. DeSantos destroyed him in that debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted Friday at 07:11 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 07:11 AM 26 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: Now there is a thought, A Hollywood dream boy versus a wannabe New York mob boss! Wow now theres a thought! The left loves them Hollywood Glitzers. Maybe have the godfather for his campaign mgr methinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted Friday at 07:14 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:14 AM Clearly the Dems need a new credible and effective candidate. Apart from Newsom, who else have they got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted Friday at 07:23 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:23 AM As a California resident(for a couple months a year) and taxpayer I know he has some big problems in Sacramento. He turned a 61 billion dollar surplus into at least a 40 billion dollar deficit in less than 3 years. That is some accomplishment. For the next year CA will have significant budget cuts and my CPA has told me to expect a small or no return from my 2024 state income tax filing. . I guess this makes Gavin more than qualified to be a Presidential Candidate. Good luck Gavin on whatever you decide. Either way he has nothing to lose because when he is done he can just back to his mansion in Napa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted Friday at 07:25 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:25 AM 8 minutes ago, mfd101 said: Clearly the Dems need a new credible and effective candidate. Apart from Newsom, who else have they got? I think some would say the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana. He is the current secretary of transporation and wolud be the first openy gay presidential candidate. This would at least get the LBTG Q vote (did I say this right and did I cover every community?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted Friday at 07:46 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:46 AM 12 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said: I think some would say the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana. He is the current secretary of transporation and wolud be the first openy gay presidential candidate. This would at least get the LBTG Q vote (did I say this right and did I cover every community?). Yes, Buttigieg looks good with plenty of potential. Age 57 about right. I have thought in the past he had a way to go to prove himself but his time in the Biden Cabinet will have been a growing experience. Anyone else? (remembering that other Presidents - eg Clinton & Carter - basically came from 'Nowhere' and made it to President through their campaign performance and facing weak Republican candidates). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted Friday at 09:10 AM Share Posted Friday at 09:10 AM 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: Yes, Buttigieg looks good with plenty of potential. Age 57 about right. I have thought in the past he had a way to go to prove himself but his time in the Biden Cabinet will have been a growing experience. Anyone else? (remembering that other Presidents - eg Clinton & Carter - basically came from 'Nowhere' and made it to President through their campaign performance and facing weak Republican candidates). He will get a heroes welcomes in SF, LA, SEA, SD, NY, BOS, CHI and DC but in others places I doubt it. This is a problem with the former mayor: He does not play in the flyover states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted Friday at 09:21 AM Share Posted Friday at 09:21 AM 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: Yes, Buttigieg looks good with plenty of potential. Age 57 about right. I have thought in the past he had a way to go to prove himself but his time in the Biden Cabinet will have been a growing experience. Anyone else? (remembering that other Presidents - eg Clinton & Carter - basically came from 'Nowhere' and made it to President through their campaign performance and facing weak Republican candidates). Whitmer or Klobuchar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted Friday at 09:58 AM Share Posted Friday at 09:58 AM 34 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Whitmer or Klobuchar. They both look potentials. The problem now is to get Biden to step aside (can his wife achieve that?) so there's time for a proper process for choosing a new candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted Friday at 10:15 AM Share Posted Friday at 10:15 AM Newsom with the slicked back hair looks like someone selling red sports cars to men going through a mid life crisis. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted Friday at 11:01 AM Share Posted Friday at 11:01 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: They both look potentials. The problem now is to get Biden to step aside (can his wife achieve that?) so there's time for a proper process for choosing a new candidate. I think Biden is a good man. Stepping aside now would be a great thing for the country. I hope he decides to be great. Aside from Newsom and Whitmer I just heard this name mentioned. I don't think its Buttigeig's time yet. Yes Shapiro now governer of Pennsylvania is a Jew. If Mexico can have its first Jewish president why not the USA? Newsom does bring California baggage. Edited Friday at 11:07 AM by Jingthing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted Friday at 11:13 AM Share Posted Friday at 11:13 AM Fetterman. If the Democrats nominate Fetterman, by God, I'll vote for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted Friday at 11:14 AM Share Posted Friday at 11:14 AM Just now, John Drake said: Fetterman. If the Democrats nominate Fetterman, by God, I'll vote for him. No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted Friday at 11:38 AM Share Posted Friday at 11:38 AM Shapiro is impressive in the Pakman extracts above. So the Democrats' problem isn't a lack of talent (and I suspect that that's not the Republicans' problem either) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted Friday at 12:48 PM Share Posted Friday at 12:48 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: Shapiro is impressive in the Pakman extracts above. So the Democrats' problem isn't a lack of talent (and I suspect that that's not the Republicans' problem either) ... No it's not. The problem now is getting Biden to step aside. The momentum says he won't. Then he needs to NOT endorse Harris and he need to get her to understand that she shouldn't complain as she is too unpopular to have a shot. If she raises a stink that she's being slighted as a woman or ethnic minority, then the democrats screw themselves anew. Then if the field is clear there is hope at an OPEN convention where one of the obvious very talented new options can emerge. Looking at all that, not great odds! Edited Friday at 12:49 PM by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted Friday at 01:11 PM Share Posted Friday at 01:11 PM 19 minutes ago, Jingthing said: No it's not. The problem now is getting Biden to step aside. The momentum says he won't. Then he needs to NOT endorse Harris and he need to get her to understand that she shouldn't complain as she is too unpopular to have a shot. If she raises a stink that she's being slighted as a woman or ethnic minority, then the democrats screw themselves anew. Then if the field is clear there is hope at an OPEN convention where one of the obvious very talented new options can emerge. Looking at all that, not great odds! Yes, looking grim I'm afraid. Unless one or more of the potentially high-quality alternative contenders have enough guts to organize an alternative course. I wonder where Jill Biden is in all of this. Noone must be more aware of the stress on her husband than she is. You might think that an approach thru her would be the way to go ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted Friday at 01:16 PM Share Posted Friday at 01:16 PM 4 minutes ago, mfd101 said: Yes, looking grim I'm afraid. Unless one or more of the potentially high-quality alternative contenders have enough guts to organize an alternative course. I wonder where Jill Biden is in all of this. Noone must be more aware of the stress on her husband than she is. You might think that an approach thru her would be the way to go ... The nomination race is over UNLESS Biden steps aside. It would be pointless for any other candidate to step forward unless and until that happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted Friday at 03:01 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:01 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, Jingthing said: Whitmer or Klobuchar. I heard Jamaal Bowman is looking for work. Ticks all the boxes. Edited Friday at 03:01 PM by Cryingdick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted Friday at 03:02 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:02 PM 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: The nomination race is over UNLESS Biden steps aside. It would be pointless for any other candidate to step forward unless and until that happens. If the president steps down or is removed then Kamala is automatically the president. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted Friday at 03:06 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:06 PM How about Al Sharpton? He’d nail down that Michigan vote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted Friday at 03:09 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:09 PM Newsom has said he stands behind Biden. He is savvy enough to stay far away from this crap show and probably fancies his chances more after both the geezers are out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM Newsom needs some time to distance himself the disaster he created in Calif as gov. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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