jaiyenyen Posted Monday at 12:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:11 PM For the past 6 years, I've used my salary to obtain my yearly Non 'O' Marriage visa extension. This has always been accepted. Today I went to CW, with my wife and a member of staff from the company's HR department. The company is very large and is based in Rangsit, Pathum Thani. I live in Don Mueang, Bangkok. It's a 15 minute commute to work. Although my papers were accepted today, I was told that I wouldn't be able to use my salary in the future because the company I work for is based in another province, and they that they (CW) can't check the company's details because it's another province. The officer suggested that I use the 400k method. My wife explained that I didn't have that amount of money. The officer then suggested to my wife that I'm hiding money from her. She also had a problem believing that we live together, even after providing the usual photos and showiing my 90 day reports. My wife only told me this after we got home. I've been extending my visa for the past 20 years, and have come to expect the worst every time I visit CW. No matter how correct my paperwork, they always find something. Post rant. My question is: Was the officer correct in demanding that if I want to use my salary for my extension, I must live in the same province as the company I work for? I can find nothing on the Immigration list of requirements. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problemfarang Posted Monday at 12:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:29 PM (edited) he was totally wrong i work in bangkok and my wife is registered khon kaen. CW told me to do my extension there in khon kaen base on salary as you I went to KK. i was little bit nervous because of being in your shoes. work another place doing extension in another place. they extended my visa in 15 min. important thing is where your wife is registered not where you are working. this was before covid tho. EDIT: no harm going and asking about this to pathum thai immigration EDIT 2: if he was correct he wouldnt accept your paper work easily. Edited Monday at 12:33 PM by problemfarang 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyenyen Posted Monday at 01:17 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 01:17 PM Yes. The girl from HR said that she'd have a word with Pathum Thani and see if they would be happy to do it next time. That's where my work permit comes from. I find it hard to believe that there's no way for Bangkok office to check details with Pathum Thani, if they really need to......... ..........But, then again.........555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problemfarang Posted Monday at 01:33 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:33 PM 15 minutes ago, jaiyenyen said: Yes. The girl from HR said that she'd have a word with Pathum Thani and see if they would be happy to do it next time. That's where my work permit comes from. I find it hard to believe that there's no way for Bangkok office to check details with Pathum Thani, if they really need to......... ..........But, then again.........555 hope wont be any problems next time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Felton Jarvis Posted Monday at 01:34 PM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:34 PM 1 hour ago, jaiyenyen said: For the past 6 years, I've used my salary to obtain my yearly Non 'O' Marriage visa extension. This has always been accepted. Today I went to CW, with my wife and a member of staff from the company's HR department. The company is very large and is based in Rangsit, Pathum Thani. I live in Don Mueang, Bangkok. It's a 15 minute commute to work. Although my papers were accepted today, I was told that I wouldn't be able to use my salary in the future because the company I work for is based in another province, and they that they (CW) can't check the company's details because it's another province. The officer suggested that I use the 400k method. My wife explained that I didn't have that amount of money. The officer then suggested to my wife that I'm hiding money from her. She also had a problem believing that we live together, even after providing the usual photos and showiing my 90 day reports. My wife only told me this after we got home. I've been extending my visa for the past 20 years, and have come to expect the worst every time I visit CW. No matter how correct my paperwork, they always find something. Post rant. My question is: Was the officer correct in demanding that if I want to use my salary for my extension, I must live in the same province as the company I work for? I can find nothing on the Immigration list of requirements. They obviously make up these requirements to toy with farangs because they CAN!!!! Immigration gets more unreasonable with every passing year. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jaiyenyen Posted Monday at 01:41 PM Author Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 01:41 PM 5 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said: They obviously make up these requirements to toy with farangs because they CAN!!!! Immigration gets more unreasonable with every passing year. I truly believe that they want everyone to use an agent. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigt3116 Posted Monday at 11:35 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:35 PM (edited) 10 hours ago, jaiyenyen said: Yes. The girl from HR said that she'd have a word with Pathum Thani and see if they would be happy to do it next time. That's where my work permit comes from. I find it hard to believe that there's no way for Bangkok office to check details with Pathum Thani, if they really need to......... ..........But, then again.........555 I can see the IO's point, your work permit is issued in Pathum Thani as your work is in Pathum Thani. Your extension is in effect based on your work (salary), and that is wholly based in a different province. Where is your TM30 filed? Edited Monday at 11:36 PM by bigt3116 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyenyen Posted yesterday at 12:07 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:07 AM So, if that's the case, why has this method been accepted for the past 6 years? Why was nothing said before? Can they not ask PT to check something if needed? Maybe I've been lucky in the past. TM30 is registered in Bangkok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presnock Posted yesterday at 05:53 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:53 AM 16 hours ago, jaiyenyen said: I truly believe that they want everyone to use an agent. I have no clue about agents but seeing as how they seem to have contacts within immigration it might be that agents share charges paid by the expats. But like I said, maybe immigration just sees agents as easier to get along with...555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jesimps Posted yesterday at 10:10 AM Popular Post Share Posted yesterday at 10:10 AM 4 hours ago, Presnock said: I have no clue about agents but seeing as how they seem to have contacts within immigration it might be that agents share charges paid by the expats. But like I said, maybe immigration just sees agents as easier to get along with...555 There's a blindingly obvious reason why immig like us using agents, which I won't say on here. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmlc Posted yesterday at 10:15 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:15 AM 22 hours ago, jaiyenyen said: For the past 6 years, I've used my salary to obtain my yearly Non 'O' Marriage visa extension. This has always been accepted. Today I went to CW, with my wife and a member of staff from the company's HR department. The company is very large and is based in Rangsit, Pathum Thani. I live in Don Mueang, Bangkok. It's a 15 minute commute to work. Although my papers were accepted today, I was told that I wouldn't be able to use my salary in the future because the company I work for is based in another province, and they that they (CW) can't check the company's details because it's another province. The officer suggested that I use the 400k method. My wife explained that I didn't have that amount of money. The officer then suggested to my wife that I'm hiding money from her. She also had a problem believing that we live together, even after providing the usual photos and showiing my 90 day reports. My wife only told me this after we got home. I've been extending my visa for the past 20 years, and have come to expect the worst every time I visit CW. No matter how correct my paperwork, they always find something. Post rant. My question is: Was the officer correct in demanding that if I want to use my salary for my extension, I must live in the same province as the company I work for? I can find nothing on the Immigration list of requirements. Agent!!!! Start to use one. !0,000 Baht per year. approximately. Don't waste your time dealing with an IO like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmlc Posted yesterday at 10:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:17 AM 20 hours ago, jaiyenyen said: I truly believe that they want everyone to use an agent. I know this to be true in some cases. However, since covid, sham marriages have been common. I understand why Immigration is skeptical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Felton Jarvis Posted yesterday at 10:51 AM Popular Post Share Posted yesterday at 10:51 AM 21 hours ago, jaiyenyen said: I truly believe that they want everyone to use an agent. That makes perfect sense because they get no kickback, otherwise. I'm just glad that the agent method is available to me or I would head for Cambodia immediately. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyenyen Posted yesterday at 10:52 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 10:52 AM 36 minutes ago, wmlc said: Agent!!!! Start to use one. !0,000 Baht per year. approximately. Don't waste your time dealing with an IO like this. Any recommendations in Bangkok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felton Jarvis Posted yesterday at 11:02 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:02 AM Especially infuriating was the IO's suggestion to his wife that he was "hiding money". These simpletons really think we have access to unlimited funds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myran Posted yesterday at 11:27 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:27 AM 22 hours ago, problemfarang said: he was totally wrong i work in bangkok and my wife is registered khon kaen. CW told me to do my extension there in khon kaen base on salary as you I went to KK. i was little bit nervous because of being in your shoes. work another place doing extension in another place. they extended my visa in 15 min. important thing is where your wife is registered not where you are working. this was before covid tho. EDIT: no harm going and asking about this to pathum thai immigration EDIT 2: if he was correct he wouldnt accept your paper work easily. It's not about where your wife is registered, but where you live and are doing 90-day reports. Plenty of people make extensions across the country from where their wives are actually registered. You're supposed to make your extensions where you live, nowhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problemfarang Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 2 hours ago, Myran said: It's not about where your wife is registered, but where you live and are doing 90-day reports. Plenty of people make extensions across the country from where their wives are actually registered. You're supposed to make your extensions where you live, nowhere else. dont tell me bro, tell to immigration. it is where your wife is registered... thats how i and others did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problemfarang Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, jaiyenyen said: Any recommendations in Bangkok? well the famous thaivisa is the agency in BKK they do good job but expensive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Sometimes when I hear these stories I swear you should justtake another number and get a different io. Although I know the same one may oversee most of what goes on so that may not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyenyen Posted 21 hours ago Author Share Posted 21 hours ago 2 hours ago, Myran said: t's not about where your wife is registered, but where you live and are doing 90-day reports. Plenty of people make extensions across the country from where their wives are actually registered. You're supposed to make your extensions where you live, nowhere else. This appears to be the problem. I live with my wife, in Bangkok. I do my 90 day reports and yearly extension in Bangkok. However, I work in Pathum Thani and my work permit is issued in Pathum Thani. They don't want me to use my salary as proof of finance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presnock Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Absolutely correct in how we must watch how we say exactly how we feel about some subjects here as we are not in our home countries and some folks have weak tolerances for the truth. Have a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 15 hours ago, jesimps said: There's a blindingly obvious reason why immig like us using agents, which I won't say on here. I will say it for you. Money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Browder Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 19 hours ago, jaiyenyen said: They don't want me to use my salary as proof of finance. This is the main thing. It used to be, you provided a tax-filing, work-permit, and salary-letter from your job for this case. THEN, a few years ago, they started asking for a ton of company-documents from other govt-agencies - making it into a "Non-B" type paperwork hassle in addition to the Marriage-based paperwork. BUT, if you have 400K in the bank seasoned for 2 months, they will do your marriage-based Non-O THAT way, w/o hassle. ... well, the normal marriage-based extension thick-binder of paperwork, but w/o all the other business-related stuff. Why? Many Non-B applications are handled by agents, hired by employers, so their employees are not put through the wringer. Immigration see you using a Non-O marriage-extension as cutting into their Non-B agent-business. It is similar to how they felt about embassy income-documents, so stopped those for most (USA, Australia, etc) expats, for their retirement and marriage-based extensions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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