Public Health Minister Discusses Change in Cannabis Status Amid Protests

[johnnybangkok]

46 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I asked copilot if there is any evidence Cannabis use lowers IQ, here is what it said.....

 

Certainly! Let’s explore the evidence regarding cannabis use and its potential impact on IQ.

A long-term study conducted in Dunedin, New Zealand, followed 1,037 individuals born in 1972/1973 over a 25-year period. Here are the key findings from this study¹:

1. Adolescent Cannabis Use and IQ:

   • Individuals who used marijuana at least once a week during adolescence showed a reduction in IQ at age 38.
   • Adolescents are at higher risk of being harmed by cannabis because their brains are still developing.
   • Frequent cannabis use is riskier for adolescents than for adults.

2. Adult-Onset Cannabis Use:

   • Adult-onset cannabis users do not appear to experience IQ decline as a function of persistent cannabis use.
   • The decline in IQ was concentrated among adolescent-onset users.
   • Those who began marijuana use as adolescents and continued into adulthood lost an average of eight IQ points, which can significantly impact academic success and job opportunities.

3. Cessation of Use:

   • Stopping marijuana use did not fully restore neuropsychological functioning among adolescent-onset, former persistent cannabis users.
   • Impairment was still evident for one year or more after cessation of use.

4. Areas of Impairment:

   • Impairments in early-onset persistent users were detected across several areas, including:
     • Executive Functioning
     • Processing Speed
     • Memory
     • Perceptual Reasoning
     • Verbal Comprehension

In summary, while adult-onset cannabis users do not experience IQ decline, persistent cannabis use during adolescence can lead to cognitive impairments, especially in processing speed and executive functions. It’s essential to consider these findings when discussing the impact of cannabis on IQ².

Thank you for this. It's pretty much what many of us already know which is cannabis isn't for the young. But neither is alcohol nor cigarettes and both of these are regulated through age barriers to entry, so rather than throw the baby out with the bath water, just make sure age restrictions are strictly adhered to.

 

I suspect though that this will never happen though as Thaksin has a REAL thing about ANY drugs - as was evident back in 2003 when his 'war on drugs' led to 2,800 people being simply executed https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/03/12/thailands-war-drugs. 

[johnnybangkok]

53 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I asked copilot if there is any evidence Cannabis use lowers IQ, here is what it said.....

 

Certainly! Let’s explore the evidence regarding cannabis use and its potential impact on IQ.

A long-term study conducted in Dunedin, New Zealand, followed 1,037 individuals born in 1972/1973 over a 25-year period. Here are the key findings from this study¹:

1. Adolescent Cannabis Use and IQ:

   • Individuals who used marijuana at least once a week during adolescence showed a reduction in IQ at age 38.
   • Adolescents are at higher risk of being harmed by cannabis because their brains are still developing.
   • Frequent cannabis use is riskier for adolescents than for adults.

2. Adult-Onset Cannabis Use:

   • Adult-onset cannabis users do not appear to experience IQ decline as a function of persistent cannabis use.
   • The decline in IQ was concentrated among adolescent-onset users.
   • Those who began marijuana use as adolescents and continued into adulthood lost an average of eight IQ points, which can significantly impact academic success and job opportunities.

3. Cessation of Use:

   • Stopping marijuana use did not fully restore neuropsychological functioning among adolescent-onset, former persistent cannabis users.
   • Impairment was still evident for one year or more after cessation of use.

4. Areas of Impairment:

   • Impairments in early-onset persistent users were detected across several areas, including:
     • Executive Functioning
     • Processing Speed
     • Memory
     • Perceptual Reasoning
     • Verbal Comprehension

In summary, while adult-onset cannabis users do not experience IQ decline, persistent cannabis use during adolescence can lead to cognitive impairments, especially in processing speed and executive functions. It’s essential to consider these findings when discussing the impact of cannabis on IQ².

Thank you for this. It's pretty much what many of us already know which is cannabis isn't for the young. But neither is alcohol nor cigarettes and both of these are regulated through age barriers to entry, so rather than throw the baby out with the bath water, just make sure age restrictions are strictly adhered to.

 

I suspect that this will never happen though as Thaksin has a REAL thing about ANY drugs - as was evident back in 2003 when his 'war on drugs' led to 2,800 people being simply executed https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/03/12/thailands-war-drugs. 

[johnnybangkok]

53 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I asked copilot if there is any evidence Cannabis use lowers IQ, here is what it said.....

 

Certainly! Let’s explore the evidence regarding cannabis use and its potential impact on IQ.

A long-term study conducted in Dunedin, New Zealand, followed 1,037 individuals born in 1972/1973 over a 25-year period. Here are the key findings from this study¹:

1. Adolescent Cannabis Use and IQ:

   • Individuals who used marijuana at least once a week during adolescence showed a reduction in IQ at age 38.
   • Adolescents are at higher risk of being harmed by cannabis because their brains are still developing.
   • Frequent cannabis use is riskier for adolescents than for adults.

2. Adult-Onset Cannabis Use:

   • Adult-onset cannabis users do not appear to experience IQ decline as a function of persistent cannabis use.
   • The decline in IQ was concentrated among adolescent-onset users.
   • Those who began marijuana use as adolescents and continued into adulthood lost an average of eight IQ points, which can significantly impact academic success and job opportunities.

3. Cessation of Use:

   • Stopping marijuana use did not fully restore neuropsychological functioning among adolescent-onset, former persistent cannabis users.
   • Impairment was still evident for one year or more after cessation of use.

4. Areas of Impairment:

   • Impairments in early-onset persistent users were detected across several areas, including:
     • Executive Functioning
     • Processing Speed
     • Memory
     • Perceptual Reasoning
     • Verbal Comprehension

In summary, while adult-onset cannabis users do not experience IQ decline, persistent cannabis use during adolescence can lead to cognitive impairments, especially in processing speed and executive functions. It’s essential to consider these findings when discussing the impact of cannabis on IQ².

Thank you for this. It's pretty much what many of us already know which is cannabis isn't for the young. But neither is alcohol nor cigarettes and both of these are regulated through age barriers to entry, so rather than throw the baby out with the bath water, just make sure age restrictions are strictly adhered to.

 

I suspect that this will never happen though as Thaksin has a REAL thing about ANY drugs - as was evident back in 2003 when his 'war on drugs' led to 2,800 people being simply executed https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/03/12/thailands-war-drugs. 

[johnnybangkok]

53 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I asked copilot if there is any evidence Cannabis use lowers IQ, here is what it said.....

 

Certainly! Let’s explore the evidence regarding cannabis use and its potential impact on IQ.

A long-term study conducted in Dunedin, New Zealand, followed 1,037 individuals born in 1972/1973 over a 25-year period. Here are the key findings from this study¹:

1. Adolescent Cannabis Use and IQ:

   • Individuals who used marijuana at least once a week during adolescence showed a reduction in IQ at age 38.
   • Adolescents are at higher risk of being harmed by cannabis because their brains are still developing.
   • Frequent cannabis use is riskier for adolescents than for adults.

2. Adult-Onset Cannabis Use:

   • Adult-onset cannabis users do not appear to experience IQ decline as a function of persistent cannabis use.
   • The decline in IQ was concentrated among adolescent-onset users.
   • Those who began marijuana use as adolescents and continued into adulthood lost an average of eight IQ points, which can significantly impact academic success and job opportunities.

3. Cessation of Use:

   • Stopping marijuana use did not fully restore neuropsychological functioning among adolescent-onset, former persistent cannabis users.
   • Impairment was still evident for one year or more after cessation of use.

4. Areas of Impairment:

   • Impairments in early-onset persistent users were detected across several areas, including:
     • Executive Functioning
     • Processing Speed
     • Memory
     • Perceptual Reasoning
     • Verbal Comprehension

In summary, while adult-onset cannabis users do not experience IQ decline, persistent cannabis use during adolescence can lead to cognitive impairments, especially in processing speed and executive functions. It’s essential to consider these findings when discussing the impact of cannabis on IQ².

Thank you for this. It's pretty much what many of us already know which is cannabis isn't for the young. But neither is alcohol nor cigarettes and both of these are regulated through age barriers to entry, so rather than throw the baby out with the bath water, just make sure age restrictions are strictly adhered to.

 

I suspect that this will never happen though as Thaksin has a REAL thing about ANY drugs - as was evident back in 2003 when his 'war on drugs' led to 2,800 people being simply executed https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/03/12/thailands-war-drugs. 

[johnnybangkok]

55 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I asked copilot if there is any evidence Cannabis use lowers IQ, here is what it said.....

 

Certainly! Let’s explore the evidence regarding cannabis use and its potential impact on IQ.

A long-term study conducted in Dunedin, New Zealand, followed 1,037 individuals born in 1972/1973 over a 25-year period. Here are the key findings from this study¹:

1. Adolescent Cannabis Use and IQ:

   • Individuals who used marijuana at least once a week during adolescence showed a reduction in IQ at age 38.
   • Adolescents are at higher risk of being harmed by cannabis because their brains are still developing.
   • Frequent cannabis use is riskier for adolescents than for adults.

2. Adult-Onset Cannabis Use:

   • Adult-onset cannabis users do not appear to experience IQ decline as a function of persistent cannabis use.
   • The decline in IQ was concentrated among adolescent-onset users.
   • Those who began marijuana use as adolescents and continued into adulthood lost an average of eight IQ points, which can significantly impact academic success and job opportunities.

3. Cessation of Use:

   • Stopping marijuana use did not fully restore neuropsychological functioning among adolescent-onset, former persistent cannabis users.
   • Impairment was still evident for one year or more after cessation of use.

4. Areas of Impairment:

   • Impairments in early-onset persistent users were detected across several areas, including:
     • Executive Functioning
     • Processing Speed
     • Memory
     • Perceptual Reasoning
     • Verbal Comprehension

In summary, while adult-onset cannabis users do not experience IQ decline, persistent cannabis use during adolescence can lead to cognitive impairments, especially in processing speed and executive functions. It’s essential to consider these findings when discussing the impact of cannabis on IQ².

Thank you for this. It's pretty much what many of us already know which is cannabis isn't for the young. But neither is alcohol nor cigarettes and both of these are regulated through age barriers to entry, so rather than throw the baby out with the bath water, just make sure age restrictions are strictly adhered to.

 

I suspect that this will never happen though as Thaksin has a REAL thing about ANY drugs - as was evident back in 2003 when his 'war on drugs' led to 2,800 people being simply executed https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/03/12/thailands-war-drugs. 

[johnnybangkok]

55 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I asked copilot if there is any evidence Cannabis use lowers IQ, here is what it said.....

 

Certainly! Let’s explore the evidence regarding cannabis use and its potential impact on IQ.

A long-term study conducted in Dunedin, New Zealand, followed 1,037 individuals born in 1972/1973 over a 25-year period. Here are the key findings from this study¹:

1. Adolescent Cannabis Use and IQ:

   • Individuals who used marijuana at least once a week during adolescence showed a reduction in IQ at age 38.
   • Adolescents are at higher risk of being harmed by cannabis because their brains are still developing.
   • Frequent cannabis use is riskier for adolescents than for adults.

2. Adult-Onset Cannabis Use:

   • Adult-onset cannabis users do not appear to experience IQ decline as a function of persistent cannabis use.
   • The decline in IQ was concentrated among adolescent-onset users.
   • Those who began marijuana use as adolescents and continued into adulthood lost an average of eight IQ points, which can significantly impact academic success and job opportunities.

3. Cessation of Use:

   • Stopping marijuana use did not fully restore neuropsychological functioning among adolescent-onset, former persistent cannabis users.
   • Impairment was still evident for one year or more after cessation of use.

4. Areas of Impairment:

   • Impairments in early-onset persistent users were detected across several areas, including:
     • Executive Functioning
     • Processing Speed
     • Memory
     • Perceptual Reasoning
     • Verbal Comprehension

In summary, while adult-onset cannabis users do not experience IQ decline, persistent cannabis use during adolescence can lead to cognitive impairments, especially in processing speed and executive functions. It’s essential to consider these findings when discussing the impact of cannabis on IQ².

Thank you for this. It's pretty much what many of us already know which is cannabis isn't for the young. But neither is alcohol nor cigarettes and both of these are regulated through age barriers to entry, so rather than throw the baby out with the bath water, just make sure age restrictions are strictly adhered to.

 

I suspect that this will never happen though as Thaksin has a REAL thing about ANY drugs - as was evident back in 2003 when his 'war on drugs' led to 2,800 people being simply executed https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/03/12/thailands-war-drugs. 

[natway09]

This has all been caused by K Anutin & his henchmen who being in such a rush to pass the bill on his watch 

forgot to ensure the bill was drafted properly & hence the loophole to allow the weed to be grown & sold openly.

He is the one that should have to repair the mess that has ensued.

All the shops now selling recreational cannabis knew that they had limited time before exactly what is happening is happening. Not much sympathy for them, sorry, they knew they were walking on water.

It will remain a mess for years to come, the police being the only winners from next year & possibly people like myself who should be able still to grow the odd plant strictly for my use without interference.

[bob smith]

Thailand is like an infant running around the house with scissors...

 

they just cannot be trusted to do anything right!

 

bob.

Edited July 10 by bob smith

[Franky0815]

As long as he is concerned about the health of the population because of cannabis and at the same time legalizes meth-amphetamine use, I am concerned about his competence!

[bamnutsak]

1 hour ago, Sig said:

How many people do you suppose actually know what a "type 5 drug" is?????

 

 

Not much left in Cat 5, maybe just 'shrooms?

[ignore it]

Looks like a bedwetter. 

[sambum]

"He provided public health concerns, such as the alleged potential for a drop in IQ and ongoing public apprehension, as reasons for the quick action."

 

"Alleged"? By who? It is also "alleged" that drinking and driving can cause accidents, but are they proposing to ban alcohol?

 

"Ongoing public apprehension" There was plenty of public apprehension about whether a convicted criminal should have his sentence reduced to 1 year from 8 within weeks of his return to Thailand, but that didn't make any difference to the decision. 

 

Another load of bureaucratic b******t! 

[johnnybangkok]

55 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I asked copilot if there is any evidence Cannabis use lowers IQ, here is what it said.....

 

Certainly! Let’s explore the evidence regarding cannabis use and its potential impact on IQ.

A long-term study conducted in Dunedin, New Zealand, followed 1,037 individuals born in 1972/1973 over a 25-year period. Here are the key findings from this study¹:

1. Adolescent Cannabis Use and IQ:

   • Individuals who used marijuana at least once a week during adolescence showed a reduction in IQ at age 38.
   • Adolescents are at higher risk of being harmed by cannabis because their brains are still developing.
   • Frequent cannabis use is riskier for adolescents than for adults.

2. Adult-Onset Cannabis Use:

   • Adult-onset cannabis users do not appear to experience IQ decline as a function of persistent cannabis use.
   • The decline in IQ was concentrated among adolescent-onset users.
   • Those who began marijuana use as adolescents and continued into adulthood lost an average of eight IQ points, which can significantly impact academic success and job opportunities.

3. Cessation of Use:

   • Stopping marijuana use did not fully restore neuropsychological functioning among adolescent-onset, former persistent cannabis users.
   • Impairment was still evident for one year or more after cessation of use.

4. Areas of Impairment:

   • Impairments in early-onset persistent users were detected across several areas, including:
     • Executive Functioning
     • Processing Speed
     • Memory
     • Perceptual Reasoning
     • Verbal Comprehension

In summary, while adult-onset cannabis users do not experience IQ decline, persistent cannabis use during adolescence can lead to cognitive impairments, especially in processing speed and executive functions. It’s essential to consider these findings when discussing the impact of cannabis on IQ².

Thank you for this. It's pretty much what many of us already know which is cannabis isn't for the young. But neither is alcohol nor cigarettes and both of these are regulated through age barriers to entry, so rather than throw the baby out with the bath water, just make sure age restrictions are strictly adhered to.

 

I suspect that this will never happen though as Thaksin has a REAL thing about ANY drugs - as was evident back in 2003 when his 'war on drugs' led to 2,800 people being simply executed https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/03/12/thailands-war-drugs. 

[Surasak]

4 hours ago, ThaiFelix said:

Simple solution would be to drink more Hi IQ milk surely?                   

For the amount sold, it has very poor results!

[sambum]

38 minutes ago, natway09 said:

This has all been caused by K Anutin & his henchmen who being in such a rush to pass the bill on his watch 

forgot to ensure the bill was drafted properly & hence the loophole to allow the weed to be grown & sold openly.

He is the one that should have to repair the mess that has ensued.

All the shops now selling recreational cannabis knew that they had limited time before exactly what is happening is happening. Not much sympathy for them, sorry, they knew they were walking on water.

It will remain a mess for years to come, the police being the only winners from next year & possibly people like myself who should be able still to grow the odd plant strictly for my use without interference.

 

"This has all been caused by K Anutin & his henchmen............"

 

Hear, hear! The man has no business being in politics - his diplomatic skills are zero, and 9 times out of 10 anything he says is questionable at best.

 

Plus, everybody should know by now that the reason he pushed for the legalisation of cannabis  was not for the general well being of the country, by increasing tourism, but rather to enhance his own investment in the cannabis production. The man is totally shallow, and can be read like a book!

[johnnybangkok]

Sorry for all the repition with the posts. System kept on saying to wait '10 seconds to post'.

Maybe the moderator can delete all the repeats?

[bkk6060]

Any of these shops and owners in my opinion have done a fantastic job presenting products and assisting customers in a friendly atmosphere. 

Their business models seem solid other businesses could learn a lesson. Shops clean, etc.

A shame to put them out of business. 

[superal]

2 hours ago, kuzmabruk said:

Hard to go any lower than what is now being produced 

 

In Vancouver we had doctors who were close to shops who would write prescriptions for medicinal cannabis.  Simple way to operate under medicinal cannabis government regulations 

Exactly my thoughts and could be applied in Thailand and it is a way out for the Thai government and not to lose face . So cannabis users simply get a prescription from their doctors which states reasons for use  . May need a bit of tweaking but solved and to appease all concerned . Alternative is to drive it underground / uncontrolled and those that want it will always get it as was before it became legal .

[Taboo2]

This useful idiot is bought and paid for by a certain billionaire.  He will have a hard time explaining why meth pills are legal and weed illegal.  Beyond stupid.

[Taboo2]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

As well he should. This is a huge betrayal of the public, and billions have been invested presuming the government would be earnest. I suppose that was too much to ask of the goon squad. 

 

Backwards movement has defined PT and Srettha. They have failed. 

The other countries surrounding Thailand are laughing...they will get investors who want stability.  Forget about weed, it is about trust, and right now, who in their right minds with money would trust this country to invest in?

[Taboo2]

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Thank you for this. It's pretty much what many of us already know which is cannabis isn't for the young. But neither is alcohol nor cigarettes and both of these are regulated through age barriers to entry, so rather than throw the baby out with the bath water, just make sure age restrictions are strictly adhered to.

 

I suspect that this will never happen though as Thaksin has a REAL thing about ANY drugs - as was evident back in 2003 when his 'war on drugs' led to 2,800 people being simply executed https://www.hrw.org/news/2008/03/12/thailands-war-drugs. 

5555555555555555555555

 

This whole Cluster F is missing the elephant in the room....VAPES!  I see more kids vaping, and I am not lying, than using weed.  Now, I am very aware of the vape technology and impact on the lungs, and can tell you that weed it the least of your problems...just wait...and see what will happen if vaping takes over, which in my  opinion, has already hooked millions of Thais and other kid worldwide.

 

Pick your poison and enjoy your high.

[lordgrinz]

Whatever the decision, it should be made by the medical community as a whole, doctors.....not politicians.

[fdimike]

13 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

 

 

alcohol? and these are the reasons that AN IQ MIGHT DROP ... emphasis on might. 

for me it is poor education and a bad gene pool. been teaching here over 20 years... never saw them test the kids in schools... so where do the results come from and how many tests were used to claim this? and how do they know its weed?

if there is a drop in iq it takes quite a while and weed has only recently been legalised.

 

more behind the scenes taxin bs  I don't know where you've been teaching but the students in the NE are tested annually.

 

[Guderian]

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

He provided public health concerns, such as the alleged potential for a drop in IQ

 

And this is a cause of concern for the average Thai person because......??? lol

[lordgrinz]

5 minutes ago, Guderian said:

 

And this is a cause of concern for the average Thai person because......??? lol

 

The average is already 88, any lower and we will have to designate the whole country as imbeciles.

Edited July 10 by lordgrinz

[findlay13]

21 hours ago, n00dle said:

Did he happen to mention how the government plans to compensate business owners who acted in good faith for the consequences this massive, idiotic example of backpedaling? 

Compensate? Unheard of in the LOS

[thecyclist]

22 hours ago, n00dle said:

Did he happen to mention how the government plans to compensate business owners who acted in good faith for the consequences this massive, idiotic example of backpedaling? 

These are small businesses. This is a government of big business, so they don't really care. 

[CLW]

I would say Thailand has more health-threatening issues than Cannabis: Kratom, Smoking, Alcohol abuse, Vaping, Meth and bad air quality. Just to name a few

[n00dle]

1 hour ago, CLW said:

I would say Thailand has more health-threatening issues than Cannabis: Kratom, Smoking, Alcohol abuse, Vaping, Meth and bad air quality. Just to name a few

The legalization of kratom without controversy has always been a mystery to me.

[HugoFastor]

So, pretty soon 10 million cranky local cannabis users marching in the streets when they can no longer legally get their weed. What can possibly go wrong???