Aftermath of the Trump Assassination Attempt Staring into the Abyss

[bubblegum]

New facts about the security failure is unbelievable. Apparently the building the shooter was on was occupied by local police. One officer even went  up on the roof but fell down after he was confronted with the shooter. 

[Skeptic7]

2 hours ago, stoner said:

 

you could also say the same thing about bidenites. the blue maga crowd. 

Agreed...just not nearly to the same extent nor extreme of 🦇💩 crazy and dangerous far right-wing nuts. It's the norm on the right as they are all beholden to their insane master.

 

It's the exception on the left...the fringe, too-far left, ultra-woke dumbasses. I want nothing at all to do with these types. But they're the exception, not the rule.

[atpeace]

7 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Can't fool the people who booted him out of office after his 1st term. If he was any good, he would have easily be re-elected. 

Yawn. Situations evolve but you are stuck in the past.   Have some fun and see what some are seeing today.  People like you are the reason I think Trump will win.  

[JCauto]

The article is incorrect. The person who donated to the "pro-Democratic group" is a different guy with the same name who's almost 70 years old.

 

The only thing we seem to know about this guy is that he was a registered Republican who seems remarkably un-forthcoming about his views and plans compared to most who do something like this. Don't think his personal views are that important, more that any kind of nut in the USA can easily get hold of a weapon and start killing people.

[JCauto]

12 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

New facts about the security failure is unbelievable. Apparently the building the shooter was on was occupied by local police. One officer even went  up on the roof but fell down after he was confronted with the shooter. 

 

Unbelievable? There were something like almost 200 cops outside of the Uvalde primary school who sat around waiting while the kid with a gun massacred children. 

Police in the USA have managed to achieve "qualified immunity" and the right to protect themselves first and foremost to the extent where the courts have basically stated that citizens have no right to expect any protection from the police at any point in time. They're more akin to the "Bulls" who were used by the wealthy to go after the working class in the earlier parts of the 20th Century than any of the familiar propaganda portrayals of "Cop Buddy" movies. ACAB.

[Eric Loh]

8 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Yawn. Situations evolve but you are stuck in the past.   Have some fun and see what some are seeing today.  People like you are the reason I think Trump will win.  

Supporters like you just hate the facts. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Nothing has change for Trump. He is still the vile, incompetent and corrupt man he was back then. He will still be loved by his supporters but he is not gaining any wider support. Keep dreaming that this race is over. 

[Skeptic7]

5 minutes ago, atpeace said:

What is your clan? The "Righteous Labeling Clan?"  I know some intelligent people that support Trump. Sometime the support baffles me but their intelligence is obvious. 

 

Your simpleton world is quite tiny.  You might want to expand that peanut size thinking organ of yours.

Not part of any clan. Dead center in the middle of what was formerly called politics, not insane cultism...which means before Trump, for those you needing it spelled out. Social liberal and fiscal conservative. I have previously voted for both parties, depending on the candidate.

 

Yes many of the Dems have moved too far left for my tastes, but the right has gone 🦇 💩 crazy and are beholden to a madman dick-tator wannabe. They and Trump are un-American and dangerous. Sadly now all the sane Repubs have been politically ruined because they didn't bend the knee to the cult master...or have flushed their integrity down the toilet and taken that hypocritical knee. It's gross.

 

I'll take too far left over a dangerous and insane autocrat any day. I'll take my democratic republic over autocratic rule any day. 

 

[gargamon]

16 minutes ago, JCauto said:

The article is incorrect. The person who donated to the "pro-Democratic group" is a different guy with the same name who's almost 70 years old.

 

The only thing we seem to know about this guy is that he was a registered Republican who seems remarkably un-forthcoming about his views and plans compared to most who do something like this. Don't think his personal views are that important, more that any kind of nut in the USA can easily get hold of a weapon and start killing people.

Lots of misinformation out there on this one.

1) Trump got shot in the ear. Actually it was flying glass from a teleprompter that had been struck by a bullet.

2) the attendee that died (rip) died protecting his family. Actually he was only unlucky enough to be struck and killed. 

[Tug]

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

The only threat to America are the violent Leninists whose ideology you subscribe to

You need to polish your lure to catch more fish lol 😂 

[atpeace]

17 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Not part of any clan. Dead center in the middle of what was formerly called politics, not insane cultism...which means before Trump, for those you needing it spelled out. Social liberal and fiscal conservative. I have previously voted for both parties, depending on the candidate.

 

Yes many of the Dems have moved too far left for my tastes, but the right has gone 🦇 💩 crazy and are beholden to a madman dick-tator wannabe. They and Trump are un-American and dangerous. Sadly now all the sane Repubs have been politically ruined because they didn't bend the knee to the cult master...or have flushed their integrity down the toilet and taken that hypocritical knee. It's gross.

 

I'll take too far left over a dangerous and insane autocrat any day. I'll take my democratic republic over autocratic rule any day. 

 

OK, still don't think labeling all Trump voters as fools is accurate but get the point you made above. Cheers

[atpeace]

27 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Supporters like you just hate the facts. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Nothing has change for Trump. He is still the vile, incompetent and corrupt man he was back then. He will still be loved by his supporters but he is not gaining any wider support. Keep dreaming that this race is over. 

OK, nice temperament you possess 🙂  Hate is a nasty trait and as you stated above, history tells an ugly story when hate dominates.  Keep hating and I'll keep listening to both sides because they both have intelligent voices.  To each his own and you keep rolling with the aggression if it works for you.

[newnative]

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Sorry buddy, Trump is gonna win and JD Vance will continue the MAGA movement thereafter, so pack your toothbrush for the camp they are going to send you too.

     I guess that 'camp' will be concentration camps non-MAGA people will be sent to.  

[newnative]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Can't fool the people who booted him out of office after his 1st term. If he was any good, he would have easily be re-elected. 

So true!  Lost by 2.8 million votes in 2016, appointed president over the wishes of the actual voters by the cursed Electoral College.  After 4 years of the worst presidency in history, lost by 7 million votes in 2020.  

[Eric Loh]

12 minutes ago, atpeace said:

OK, nice temperament you possess 🙂  Hate is a nasty trait and as you stated above, history tells an ugly story when hate dominates.  Keep hating and I'll keep listening to both sides because they both have intelligent voices.  To each his own and you keep rolling with the aggression if it works for you.

Let stop the hate and violent speeches starting with Trump. 

[Wrwest]

5 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Since the debate if you didn't pay attention you wouldn't even think Joe was the president anymore. The good news for him is he is outs if the news cycle. The bad news for him is that he is no longer in the news. Nobody is patiently waiting to hear sime scripted interview he has conjured up played in two minute bits and played when Trump is on the other channel.

Certainly true that entertainment rather than substance is what Americans, overwhelmingly value.

[Skeptic7]

13 minutes ago, atpeace said:

OK, still don't think labeling all Trump voters as fools is accurate but get the point you made above. Cheers

Thanks for that. I gave it a 💙

 

And you are absolutely correct...it's not all Trump supporters. However, something happens to them. I look at it like religion. Otherwise totally intellectual, rational and objective people in all other aspects of life, just totally throw their reason, logic and rationale away when it comes to their flavor of superstition. This includes Christians, Muslims, Hindus...whatever. Of course, most believers haven't the slightest clue what's actually in their "Holey" books, especially all the atrocities. I see this same kind of irrational transformation when it comes to Trump supporters. Critical thought is abandoned and they 'turn a blind eye' to the obvious.

 

Anyhoo, good chat. Cheers to you too. 🍻

[BigStar]

3 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity ~ Robert A. Heinlein

 

And the Trump cult clan is powerfully stupid. 

 

The classic ANF Poster Boomerang Principle at work again, where the poster unconsciously refers to himself.

[BigStar]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

??????????????????

 

Did you even understand what I said?

 

 

Of course, troll gotta troll.

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I sometimes wonder just what created an idea that that was even possible. Psychologists will no doubt be keen to unravel the darker recesses of the human psych to come up with a conspiracy theory like that.

 

Perhaps some might do well to read up on the preconditions for the revolution that would install Trump as dictator in the US, and they may discover that they are absent from reality in the US.

The Marxists ( and the French and the Americans ) had the aristocracy to cause the revolution, Mao had a large army, Hitler had the Brown Shirts. I see no alternate army, nor Brown Shirts in the US. Not even Red Guards ( wearing a red hat does not a Red Guard make ).

You are tragically naive and misinformed.

It's not about taking any kind of title of dictator.

It's about actions that he can take now under the law to in effect become a dictator.

But you don't fool me.

Your positions are always about your extreme bias towards the Putin - Orban - Trump  sphere. 

[Jingthing]

One thing is certain.

Growing up American I like most Americans wondered how someone like Hitler could ever come to power via democratic processes in a civilized western country.

Americans living today will never wonder about that again. 

Edited July 16 by Jingthing

[retarius]

I have left wing sympathies on many issues but how vile is it to see a man shot for the left then to try to "shape the narrative to their advantage." Sickening. 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, retarius said:

I have left wing sympathies on many issues but how vile is it to see a man shot for the left then to try to "shape the narrative to their advantage." Sickening. 

Shot for the left? What are you on about?!?

[novacova]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

One thing is certain.

Growing up American I like most Americans wondered how someone like Hitler could ever come to power via democratic processes.

Americans living today will never wonder about that again. 

A complete and total delusional statement propagated by the media. The ignorance of basic history is absolutely astounding. Didn’t you learn anything in grade school? Aren’t you even aware that Hitler murdered millions? Most certainly you have absolutely no knowledge of any facts, just a machine reverberating and mimicking the medias hate fest. 

[Jingthing]

Just now, novacova said:

A complete and total delusional statement propagated by the media. The ignorance of basic history is absolutely astounding. Didn’t you learn anything in grade school? Aren’t you even aware that Hitler murdered millions? Most certainly you have absolutely no knowledge of any facts, just a machine reverberating and mimicking the medias hate fest. 

I am very aware of what Hitler did but Hitler didn't do those things until he managed to grab total power. 

[impulse]

1 hour ago, newnative said:

     I guess that 'camp' will be concentration camps non-MAGA people will be sent to.  

 

You mean like the camps he built, and non-MAGAs he sent during his first term?

 

[Skeptic7]

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

One thing is certain.

Growing up American I like most Americans wondered how someone like Hitler could ever come to power via democratic processes.

Americans living today will never wonder about that again. 

True. But I'll wonder to my dying day how so many Americans (and Europeans) could be duped by a lying, cheating (in more ways than one), con-man, thief...multiple² business failure, charity robber, misogynist, shyster, fake university creator, tax evader, convicted sexual abuser and felonious punk. It's even more mind-blowing and boggling than deity beliefs. 

Edited July 16 by Skeptic7

[BigStar]

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

Lots of misinformation out there on this one.

 

I assume you're referring to the misinformation following your "Actually" adverbs. Yes, leftist misinformation designed to minimize.

 

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

1) Trump got shot in the ear. Actually it was flying glass from a teleprompter that had been struck by a bullet.

 

NYT photog shot the photo of the bullet whizzing by from the side after it had hit Trump, Telepropmpters were in front. The photog was right there and mentioned nothing about any teleprompter being hit. Nor did another woman standing there with Trump. Moreover the photos of the teleprompters reveal no evidence of shattering or bullet holes.

 

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

2) the attendee that died (rip) died protecting his family. Actually he was only unlucky enough to be struck and killed. 

 

CNN (leftist progaganda outlet), updated 3 hours ago:

 

In an interview with the New York Post on Monday, Helen Comperatore, the widow of Corey Comperatore, shared her husband’s last words, spoken as he shielded his family from bullets that ultimately took his life.

     --Man killed at Trump rally identified as firefighter Corey Comperatore, who ‘died a hero’

 

[Will B Good]

What flashed through my mind, and scared me rigid.......Barron Trump for president!!!!

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Skeptic7 said:

True. But I'll wonder to my dying day how so many Americans (and Europeans) could be duped by a lying, cheating (in more ways than one), con-man, thief...multiple² business failure, charity robber, misogynist, shyster, fake university creator, convicted sexual abuser and felonious punk. It's even more mind-blowing and boggling than deity beliefs. 

It's pretty shocking.

I think one of many reasons is a lack of formal CIVICS education in schools.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

What flashed through my mind, and scared me rigid.......Barron Trump for president!!!!

Well at least so far he doesn't seem very keen on politics and Melania who has disappeared tries very hard to keep him clear of the human stain of his father.

Edited July 16 by Jingthing