July 23, 20241 yr Incompetent Director resigned ! Something tells me she hasn’t seen the rest of the storyline! Many more investigations to come . Democracy at its best! https://nypost.com/2024/07/23/us-news/secret-service-head-kimberly-cheatle-resigns-after-shocking-failures-led-to-trump-assassination-attempt/
July 24, 20241 yr Popular Post I followed hearing on CNN and could not believe how incompetent, stupid and arrogant she was!!! No wonder 90% of Secret Security officers were unhappy and quitting. Ol' Joe was gone long time ago: "She protected President Joe Biden during his time as vice president and was assistant director of the Office of Protective Operation before retiring, for a short time, to run global security for PepsiCo. Biden appointed her to head the Secret Service in 2022." - Better she goes back to see Pepsi bottles are not being mishandled...
July 24, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, GypsyT said: I followed hearing on CNN and could not believe how incompetent, stupid and arrogant she was!!! No wonder 90% of Secret Security officers were unhappy and quitting. Ol' Joe was gone long time ago: "She protected President Joe Biden during his time as vice president and was assistant director of the Office of Protective Operation before retiring, for a short time, to run global security for PepsiCo. Biden appointed her to head the Secret Service in 2022." - Better she goes back to see Pepsi bottles are not being mishandled... People got killed because of her incompetence! I could be wrong but I think you’re in opposition to Trump! All the more the haters of Trump should be angry ! Because of her incompetence Trump took a bullet ! Watching people on the street interviews , some have changed their mind about voting for him , because of the Events of July 13
July 24, 20241 yr So strange that everyone thinks she should have resigned when Trump got a clip around the ear. Assassination and assassination attempts have never before been seen as the fault of the director, all of whom rely on their subordinates to actually carry out the work. I do understand that she took responsibility for the people who were on the scene, which is noble, but historically, she would never have been seen as incompetent. Director James Brooks never had to resign when James Garfield was assassinated in 1881. Director John Wilkie never had to resign when William McKinley was assassinated in 1901. Director James Joseph Rowley never had to resign when John F. Kennedy was assassinated in 1963. Why? Even in cases where the president was not killed, like Ronald Reagan in 1981, the director was never pushed to resign. I am not saying there should not be an inquiry. Of course there should.
July 24, 20241 yr So strange that everyone thinks she should have resigned when Trump got a clip around the ear. Assassination and assassination attempts have never before been seen as the fault of the director, all of whom rely on their subordinates to actually carry out the work. I do understand that she took responsibility for the people who were on the scene, which is noble, but historically, she would never have been seen as incompetent. Director James Brooks never had to resign when James Garfield was assassinated in 1881. Director John Wilkie never had to resign when William McKinley was assassinated in 1901. Director James Joseph Rowley never had to resign when John F. Kennedy was assassinated in 1963. Why? Even in cases where the president was not killed, like Ronald Reagan in 1981, the director was never pushed to resign. I am not saying there should not be an inquiry. Of course there should. But resignation? I doubt it based on precedent.
July 24, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Purdey said: So strange that everyone thinks she should have resigned when Trump got a clip around the ear. You've missed the point, according to (truly) fake news: Secret Service Director Resigns In Disgrace For Failing To Assassinate Trump At publishing time, the DHS announced they were looking for a new director with experience in handling ricin and cyanide.
July 24, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Purdey said: So strange that everyone thinks she should have resigned when Trump got a clip around the ear. Assassination and assassination attempts have never before been seen as the fault of the director, all of whom rely on their subordinates to actually carry out the work. I do understand that she took responsibility for the people who were on the scene, which is noble, but historically, she would never have been seen as incompetent. Director James Brooks never had to resign when James Garfield was assassinated in 1881. Director John Wilkie never had to resign when William McKinley was assassinated in 1901. Director James Joseph Rowley never had to resign when John F. Kennedy was assassinated in 1963. Why? Even in cases where the president was not killed, like Ronald Reagan in 1981, the director was never pushed to resign. I am not saying there should not be an inquiry. Of course there should. Good grief are you kidding!?! It’s all about culture in any agency, it starts from the top down. In case you don’t know this is known as management, poor management equals poor quality control. And to add to this insult, filtering politically correct ancillaries not only distracts from the main objective of an institution, it fractures the moral of the system.
July 24, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, novacova said: Good grief are you kidding!?! It’s all about culture in any agency, it starts from the top down. In case you don’t know this is known as management, poor management equals poor quality control. And to add to this insult, filtering politically correct ancillaries not only distracts from the main objective of an institution, it fractures the moral of the system. So why wasn't Rowley sacked after Kennedy's assassination?
July 24, 20241 yr Popular Post The event shows the most egregious, amateurish failures on multiple levels. At this stage of the game, what with all the professionals available, the technology, and the lessons of the past, the event was easily preventable. She has NO excuse. She was moved into position by Jill Biden and lacked both competence and experience for the position. Thereafter, a major concern was to hire more women. Her explanations about "multiple layers" of this and that left nobody accountable and in control for the overall operation plan. She wouldn't answer even the simplest questions she should have already known the answers to, nine days out. Though admitting it was about the largest failure ever of the SS, she didn't appear at the press conference or bother visiting the site herself. She's too incompetent and self-interested to run an objective investigation. And, as AOC pointed out, it didn't need 60 days to complete. The entire bipartisan Committee voted for her resignation. She's that bad. She said she took responsibility for the failure. OK, start with the resignation. Let's have competence, not DEI.
July 24, 20241 yr Regardless of Trump probably actually not having been hit by a bullet, the chain of events at that rally point to glaring holes in the security plan for that event, and also at a lack of overwatch, together with inadequate alarm procedure. The director had no choice IMO but to resign. In detail, from my armchair : - access to elevated positions directly around the venue was not properly controlled - elevated positions were not under constant observation - alarm of an armed man was raised several minutes before shots fell, yet the spotters failed to assess the threat and the protective detail did not shield Trump - such an alarm should only take a few seconds to reach overwatch ! - apparently there was also confusion over whether a man on a roof, armed with a rifle, could be part of security himself. leads me to think about personnel control procedures in defined sectors and color of the day procedures
July 24, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, Purdey said: So why wasn't Rowley sacked after Kennedy's assassination? I have a theory... Actually, a 2 parter. But it flies in the face of "the narrative". Edit: Both parts involve LBJ.
July 24, 20241 yr Popular Post 1 hour ago, Purdey said: So strange that everyone thinks she should have resigned when Trump got a clip around the ear. Assassination and assassination attempts have never before been seen as the fault of the director, all of whom rely on their subordinates to actually carry out the work. I do understand that she took responsibility for the people who were on the scene, which is noble, but historically, she would never have been seen as incompetent. Director James Brooks never had to resign when James Garfield was assassinated in 1881. Director John Wilkie never had to resign when William McKinley was assassinated in 1901. Director James Joseph Rowley never had to resign when John F. Kennedy was assassinated in 1963. Why? Even in cases where the president was not killed, like Ronald Reagan in 1981, the director was never pushed to resign. I am not saying there should not be an inquiry. Of course there should. But resignation? I doubt it based on precedent. "Clip around the ear"!!!??? I put that in the same category as Lineker's "The Hamas thing". Disgusting.
July 24, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, jesimps said: "Clip around the ear"!!!??? I put that in the same category as Lineker's "The Hamas thing". Disgusting. As you have guessed, I don't categorize a flesh wound together with a bullet hole. Even Reagan was actually shot. Trump boasting he "took a bullet to the face" is ridiculous.
July 24, 20241 yr Popular Post 5 minutes ago, Purdey said: As you have guessed, I don't categorize a flesh wound together with a bullet hole. Even Reagan was actually shot. Trump boasting he "took a bullet to the face" is ridiculous. Typical reverberations of a disappointed leftist, I’m sorry you experienced despaired hopes as opposed to celebrating having an annoyance out of the way. You would be singing a completely different tune if one of your dear leftist leaders got shot in the ear by a built missing a kill by a few millimeters. You’d be crying and yelling and rioting in the streets and tearing things up.
July 24, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Purdey said: So strange that everyone thinks she should have resigned when Trump got a clip around the ear. Assassination and assassination attempts have never before been seen as the fault of the director, all of whom rely on their subordinates to actually carry out the work. I do understand that she took responsibility for the people who were on the scene, which is noble, but historically, she would never have been seen as incompetent. Director James Brooks never had to resign when James Garfield was assassinated in 1881. Director John Wilkie never had to resign when William McKinley was assassinated in 1901. Director James Joseph Rowley never had to resign when John F. Kennedy was assassinated in 1963. Why? Even in cases where the president was not killed, like Ronald Reagan in 1981, the director was never pushed to resign. I am not saying there should not be an inquiry. Of course there should. But resignation? I doubt it based on precedent. Overwhelming evidence of too many blunders.
July 24, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Purdey said: So strange that everyone thinks she should have resigned when Trump got a clip around the ear. Assassination and assassination attempts have never before been seen as the fault of the director, all of whom rely on their subordinates to actually carry out the work. I do understand that she took responsibility for the people who were on the scene, which is noble, but historically, she would never have been seen as incompetent. Director James Brooks never had to resign when James Garfield was assassinated in 1881. Director John Wilkie never had to resign when William McKinley was assassinated in 1901. Director James Joseph Rowley never had to resign when John F. Kennedy was assassinated in 1963. Why? Even in cases where the president was not killed, like Ronald Reagan in 1981, the director was never pushed to resign. I am not saying there should not be an inquiry. Of course there should. I am thinking that many would be surprised if the bothered to look up the total USA list of assassination attempts.
July 24, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, impulse said: So why wasn't Rowley sacked after Kennedy's assassination? This, bad security, has been going for a long time.... Abe's case; "Parker remained on the police force until 1868 when he was fired for sleeping on duty. He later went back to work as a carpenter. He died of pneumonia complicated by asthma and exhaustion in Washington, D.C., on June 28, 1890. He was buried in an unmarked grave at Glenwood Cemetery."
July 24, 20241 yr Author 53 minutes ago, novacova said: Typical reverberations of a disappointed leftist, I’m sorry you experienced despaired hopes as opposed to celebrating having an annoyance out of the way. You would be singing a completely different tune if one of your dear leftist leaders got shot in the ear by a built missing a kill by a few millimeters. You’d be crying and yelling and rioting in the streets and tearing things up. Correct, divide intervention used mm to make a miracle . I think the conspiracy theories perpetrated by the far left media never miss a chance to take advantage of a crisis , In the link Roll on 1:57 Joy Read Msnbc performance. https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/rita-panahi/lefties-losing-it-weapongrade-crazy-msnbc-host-conspiracy-theories/video/6eb1d34429360e608a4e6754c57d520d
July 24, 20241 yr Author 52 minutes ago, Hawaiian said: Overwhelming evidence of too many blunders. Still under investigation by the FBI , no worries! Come August 5 the Fbi’s ,DOJ goes silent using their 90 day rule on elections.
July 24, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Purdey said: Trump boasting he "took a bullet to the face" is ridiculous. Trump tends to speak in hyperboles; occasionally he even misstates a fact. He's been around a while, so by now your panties shouldn't be getting into a wad over this aspect of his charm. That was a real bullet, a real wound, and a near-assassination, however. But for luck (or God, or "the thing," Biden might say), an incredible, historic, tragedy would have occurred that day. Worry more about the outright lies fake news and leftists are telling you and you believe. In her very first campaign speech, for example, Kamala lied that Trump wants to "ban" abortion. He's denied that several times. Far as he's concerned, the SCOTUS settled the matter, left it up to the States. "Ban" isn't in the Republican Party platform, which he helped write and he approved. She knows that.
July 24, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, Hawaiian said: Overwhelming evidence of too many blunders. Name one secret service director who was forced to resign because of a presidential assassination or failed attempt. Clearly this was a political witch-hunt.
July 25, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Purdey said: Name one secret service director who was forced to resign because of a presidential assassination or failed attempt. Clearly this was a political witch-hunt. Witch hunt or not, she failed to defend herself. What exactly what were the failures for JFK and RR. These mistakes should never have occurred with today's advanced technology and lessons learned from the past.
July 25, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Purdey said: Clearly this was a political witch-hunt. When BOTH parties on the Committee unanimously agreed?🤣 You've been given the valid reasons above. Move on.
July 25, 20241 yr 19 hours ago, Purdey said: So strange that everyone thinks she should have resigned when Trump got a clip around the ear. Assassination and assassination attempts have never before been seen as the fault of the director, all of whom rely on their subordinates to actually carry out the work. I do understand that she took responsibility for the people who were on the scene, which is noble, but historically, she would never have been seen as incompetent. Director James Brooks never had to resign when James Garfield was assassinated in 1881. Director John Wilkie never had to resign when William McKinley was assassinated in 1901. Director James Joseph Rowley never had to resign when John F. Kennedy was assassinated in 1963. Why? Even in cases where the president was not killed, like Ronald Reagan in 1981, the director was never pushed to resign. I am not saying there should not be an inquiry. Of course there should. But resignation? I doubt it based on precedent. Are you being willfully ignorant? A couple of inches and his head would be hit. I suppose Trump hatred occupies so much of your thinking you didn't think it through. Perhaps she is gone because so many obvious mistakes were made, it reeks of incompetence.
July 25, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, Purdey said: Name one secret service director who was forced to resign because of a presidential assassination or failed attempt. Clearly this was a political witch-hunt. If so it was a bipartisan witch hunt. You do know that both the GOP and the Dems castigated her in the committee meeting, don't you?
July 25, 20241 yr 19 hours ago, Purdey said: So why wasn't Rowley sacked after Kennedy's assassination? She wasn't sacked.
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