17 hours ago, bradiston said:

I'm always curious to know from the maga crowd thenselves, when was America previously great?

 

We see a lot of imaginary agendas and lies here on the forum.

 

The Republican Party platform has the real agenda, which Trump helped write and he approved. This is what he's obligated to try to do. Presidents do traditionally follow the party agenda once they're in office.

 

A past era doesn't have to be, and isn't necessarily, great in every aspect. Oversimplified absolutism is a leftist straw man used as needed.

 

The point, according to Repubs, is that achieving this agenda (unlikely, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp) will return to America these important characteristics in particular that made it greater than it is now.

1.    Seal the border, and stop the migrant invasion
2.    Carry out the largest deportation operation in American history
3.    End inflation, and make America affordable again
4.    Make America the dominant energy producer in the world, by far!
5.    Stop outsourcing, and turn the United States into a manufacturing superpower
6.    Large tax cuts for workers, and no tax on tips!
7.    Defend our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and our fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms
8.    Prevent World War Three, restore peace in Europe and in the Middle East, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country -- all made in America
9.    End the weaponization of government against the American people
10.    Stop the migrant crime epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence, and lock up violent offenders
11.    Rebuild our cities, including Washington DC, making them safe, clean, and beautiful again.
12.    Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world
13.    Keep the US dollar as the world's reserve currency
14.    Fight for and protect Social Security and Medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age
15.    Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly and burdensome regulations
16.    Cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children
17.    Keep men out of women's sports
18.    Deport pro-Hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again
19.    Secure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship
20.    Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success

     --2024 Republican Party Platform

 

You'll note it omits anything about abortion, no "ban" constantly lied about on the left. SCOTUS settled that matter. And it specifically supports Social Security and Medicare, refuting leftist nonsense about "throwing grandma over a cliff."

 

On 7/25/2024 at 9:06 AM, KhunLA said:

Some might judge a boss, candidate, company, by the people that stand behind them, and want to be a part of their, it's legacy.  

 

92 ish % ... nuff said.   Seem the OVP isn't exactly an open book on info either.  Hmm, maybe because the allotted budget is a we bit over spending, which leaves a pretty big question, where did the rest go ?

 

Some highlights ... full article here

 

VP Kamala Harris Had 92-Percent Staff Turnover During Her First Three Years

... “People really, really do not want to work for Kamala Harris,” wrote former staffer Dan McLaughlin, January 2022.

 

... “Working for Harris is a nightmare, not just because she rides her staff hard, but also because she does so without the competence, decisiveness, and effectiveness that inspires people in politics to suffer under demanding bosses,” Dan McLaughlin wrote in a January 2022 National Review article titled, “People Really, Really Do Not Want to Work for Kamala Harris.”

 

... We calculated that for VP Harris’s 28 staff listed in the Senate report, the 2021 salaries added up to $2,334, 223.  But President Joseph Biden’s congressional budget submission shows the OVP got $5 million for 23 full time staff in 2021 and requested over $6 million for 27 full time staff in 2022.

 

Not like people didn't get an incentive to stay, with these salaries.  You really must not want to be associated with someone to pass up those salaries.

 

 

 

.......and whats the Source of your misinformation

2 hours ago, impulse said:

Kamala's soon going to experience the same scrutiny.  Even Carville says her honeymoon's over...

 

Let the lawfare begin and the truth surface. Seven new investigations:

 

America First Legal (AFL), a nonprofit conservative legal watchdog group, launched seven investigations into Harris' prosecutorial background on Thursday afternoon, alleging that Harris "has proven to be the most radically progressive Vice President in American history."

 

"A lot of her tough on crime reputation goes to her prosecution when she was San Francisco DA, individuals who use marijuana and other sorts of things," Dan Epstein, president of AFL, told Fox News Digital. "Our investigation, however, makes it very clear that Kamala Harris does not believe much in terms of statutes passed by legislatures, including the Federal United States, Congress, as well as the state of California."

     --Harris' shift from tough-on-crime prosecutor to social justice advocate faces scrutiny from conservative group

22 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well it doesn't really mean anything when she's running against a man who could not keep his own staff at the White House, and would throw virtually everybody who resigned under the bus. 

 

We have no idea whether or not this information is correct or was planted by an extremely desperate Trump, who is running very scared at the moment. 

 

Would anyone like to take Wagers on the possibility of trump facing Harris at debate? My guess is that he will bow out as she would dissect him like a corner at an autopsy, with her additional 50 IQ points over the man. 

He Bowed  already 

18 hours ago, bradiston said:

People talk about "The Left" in America. Does it really exist? I mean in Europe sure, there has always been a socialist and or communist movement. And many leaders of European nations are proud to call themselves socialists. But in the US, it's just looked at with absolute horror. The greatest insult you can hurl at anyone. But they don't even have a recognisable left wing presence anywhere, not as Europeans know it. I mean calling the Biden administration left wing is plainly farcical. Sure, if he'd tried to nationalise the oil industry, you might have a case. America's good at one thing and one thing only. Capitalism. Why argue? It's just where the money comes from and where the money goes that's important, right?

Well, you're essentially saying that it's a European standard that defines the term, which is obviously flawed.  "Why argue" the second point?  I'll argue your second point because it's equally, obviously flawed and comes from contempt for America.  Fair enough, plenty of Americans have similar contempt for Europe.

43 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I put Trump's IQ at around 86 to 90. He is definitley not smart. However, he is a genius in one area only. As a con man and a huckster. 

Grifter 

31 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

When a woman acts the same way? Well she's called something else.

I'm so sick of this victim narrative.  It's a pathetic way to excuse failure.

12 hours ago, bradiston said:

Hey, I asked first. You keep out of this. If you want me to answer that put it back into its context. Don't deflect. Anyway, what is it with you @Yellowtail? You must have commented 50 times on this thread. Got an axe to grind?

You can see how often he has commented on the right hand top of the page.  It's 17.  And you're there too, not far behind at 13, so maybe don't throw rocks while sitting in your glass house.

8 hours ago, candide said:

The WMD B.S. was sold by Republicans and supported by Republican voters  most of them being Trumpers now! 😀

The WMD BS was more than 20 years ago.  Not sure how it's relevant now.  And one striking point about the New Right/Trump Party is how much they hate Republicans of previous days and Gulf War 2.  Part of their platform (we'll see how they do when Trump is re-elected) is no more wars like that, which dovetails neatly for their support of Russia, in cutting off aid to Ukraine.

49 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

We see a lot of imaginary agendas and lies here on the forum.

 

The Republican Party platform has the real agenda, which Trump helped write and he approved. This is what he's obligated to try to do. Presidents do traditionally follow the party agenda once they're in office.

 

A past era doesn't have to be, and isn't necessarily, great in every aspect. Oversimplified absolutism is a leftist straw man used as needed.

 

The point, according to Repubs, is that achieving this agenda (unlikely, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp) will return to America these important characteristics in particular that made it greater than it is now.

1.    Seal the border, and stop the migrant invasion
2.    Carry out the largest deportation operation in American history
3.    End inflation, and make America affordable again
4.    Make America the dominant energy producer in the world, by far!
5.    Stop outsourcing, and turn the United States into a manufacturing superpower
6.    Large tax cuts for workers, and no tax on tips!
7.    Defend our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and our fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms
8.    Prevent World War Three, restore peace in Europe and in the Middle East, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country -- all made in America
9.    End the weaponization of government against the American people
10.    Stop the migrant crime epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence, and lock up violent offenders
11.    Rebuild our cities, including Washington DC, making them safe, clean, and beautiful again.
12.    Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world
13.    Keep the US dollar as the world's reserve currency
14.    Fight for and protect Social Security and Medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age
15.    Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly and burdensome regulations
16.    Cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children
17.    Keep men out of women's sports
18.    Deport pro-Hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again
19.    Secure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship
20.    Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success

     --2024 Republican Party Platform

 

You'll note it omits anything about abortion, no "ban" constantly lied about on the left. SCOTUS settled that matter. And it specifically supports Social Security and Medicare, refuting leftist nonsense about "throwing grandma over a cliff."

 

The 2024 Republican platform for the U.S. presidential election outlines a range of policy proposals centered on economic growth, social conservatism, and national security. Here's a critical analysis of key areas:

### **1. Economic Policies**
The Republican platform emphasizes tax cuts and deregulation as primary tools for stimulating economic growth. The party advocates for making the 2017 tax cuts permanent, lowering individual and corporate tax rates, and reducing government intervention in business. This approach aims to incentivize investment and job creation but has been criticized for potentially increasing the federal deficit and disproportionately benefiting wealthier individuals [oai_citation:1,Republican National Committee | RNC](https://rnc.org/index.html) [oai_citation:2,Trump vs. Harris Tax Plans: Election 2024 | Tax Foundation](https://taxfoundation.org/research/federal-tax/2024-tax-plans/).

### **2. Healthcare**
Republicans propose expanding telehealth access and providing states with greater flexibility in managing Medicaid. Some candidates, like Nikki Haley, emphasize addressing the fentanyl crisis and reducing federal involvement in healthcare, opposing the expansion of programs like Medicaid [oai_citation:3,2024 GOP candidates’ health policy check-up - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2023/08/08/2024-gop-candidates-health-policy-check-up-00110206). The GOP's healthcare approach tends to focus on market-based solutions, which may offer innovation but could also reduce coverage for low-income individuals.

### **3. Social Issues and Governance**
On social issues, the Republican platform strongly supports traditional values, advocating for restrictions on abortion and opposing policies seen as promoting progressive social agendas. For instance, many Republican candidates support bans on abortions after 15 weeks, with some pushing for even stricter limits. The platform also includes policies aimed at "election integrity," which critics argue may lead to voter suppression [oai_citation:4,2024 GOP candidates’ health policy check-up - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2023/08/08/2024-gop-candidates-health-policy-check-up-00110206) [oai_citation:5,2024 presidential candidates on election policy - Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/2024_presidential_candidates_on_election_policy).

### **4. National Security and Foreign Policy**
The Republican platform advocates for a robust national defense and strict immigration policies. The party calls for increased military spending and measures to secure the U.S. border, including the continuation of former President Trump's border wall initiative. On foreign policy, Republicans generally support a tough stance on China, with proposals ranging from economic sanctions to reducing trade dependencies [oai_citation:6,Republican National Committee | RNC](https://rnc.org/index.html).

### **5. Climate and Energy**
The Republican stance on climate change and energy typically favors expanding domestic energy production, including fossil fuels, while expressing skepticism about the economic impacts of aggressive climate regulations. This approach aims to ensure energy independence but faces criticism for potentially neglecting environmental concerns and the transition to renewable energy [oai_citation:7,2024 GOP candidates’ health policy check-up - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2023/08/08/2024-gop-candidates-health-policy-check-up-00110206).

### **Critical Assessment**
The Republican platform reflects traditional conservative principles of limited government, free markets, and social conservatism. However, its critics argue that the economic policies may exacerbate income inequality and fiscal deficits, while the social policies could limit individual freedoms and rights. Additionally, the party's stance on climate change is seen by some as inadequate in addressing the urgent need for environmental sustainability.

Overall, the Republican platform for 2024 presents a vision of governance focused on economic growth, national security, and the preservation of traditional values, while facing significant criticism for its potential social and economic impacts.

Posts with derogatory nicknames, intentional misspellings or personal remarks will be removed. Spell names correctly for all sides of the debate.

33 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

However, its critics argue that the economic policies may exacerbate income inequality and fiscal deficits, while the social policies could limit individual freedoms and rights.

 

Of course critics, or crickets, will argue blah blah. But how much about economics do they actually understand? Yellen. 🙂 Leftists always demand imaginary income equality. Want that, move to North Korea. Elites, and notably those in the Dem party, will have higher incomes and perks. Cf. Animal Farm. Nobody's created more deficit during peacetime than Biden. Trump's lower taxes increased tax revenue, created real productive jobs, and, combined w/ other policies, would have eventually reduced the deficit and brought down the national debt.

 

Watch this leftist equality move:

 

California Loses Nearly 10,000 Fast-Food Jobs After $20 Minimum Wage Signed Last Fall

 

And leftists want various privileges for favored groups and imagine those should be their freedom and their "right." But there's no legal basis for such thinking. Now that the public has seen what that really means, what with drag shows in the classrooms, freedom to shoplift, right to cross our border from anywhere and receive welfare benefits, etc., they've decided to exercise their own legitimate rights. The imagined privileged will of course disagree with any limitations.  

 

33 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Additionally, the party's stance on climate change is seen by some as inadequate in addressing the urgent need for environmental sustainability.

 

Yup, the leftist climate change fascism, often hypocritical, and associated scams and boondoggles are rejected. The science on all that isn't as settled as the fake news claims, BTW. Trump has said he's for a clean environment. But it's time for a return to common sense and an end to the rule of Greta Thunberg.

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

 

1.    Seal the border, and stop the migrant invasion
2.    Carry out the largest deportation operation in American history
3.    End inflation, and make America affordable again
4.    Make America the dominant energy producer in the world, by far!
5.    Stop outsourcing, and turn the United States into a manufacturing superpower
6.    Large tax cuts for workers, and no tax on tips!
7.    Defend our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and our fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms
8.    Prevent World War Three, restore peace in Europe and in the Middle East, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country -- all made in America
9.    End the weaponization of government against the American people
10.    Stop the migrant crime epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence, and lock up violent offenders
11.    Rebuild our cities, including Washington DC, making them safe, clean, and beautiful again.
12.    Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world
13.    Keep the US dollar as the world's reserve currency
14.    Fight for and protect Social Security and Medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age
15.    Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly and burdensome regulations
16.    Cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children
17.    Keep men out of women's sports
18.    Deport pro-Hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again
19.    Secure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship
20.    Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success

     --2024 Republican Party Platform

 

You'll note it omits anything about abortion, no "ban" constantly lied about on the left. SCOTUS settled that matter. And it specifically supports Social Security and Medicare, refuting leftist nonsense about "throwing grandma over a cliff."

Excellent list of truths and facts - bound to hurt the feelings of woke leftists.

 

Particularly on point regarding abortions and the lies of the Dems and their MSM supporters.  SCOTUS over-turned a ruling that made abortions a Federal issue, which under the Constitution was wrong. Under the USA Constitution halth care is a State issue - and SCOTUS returned that right to the States to decide on all health issues, including Abortion.  So now it is legal in some States, it is illegal in some States, and it is restricted in most States. Abortion is a health care issue and under the Constitution it is a State issue not to be interefred with by the Federal Govt.  Dems changed that situation for political reasons in breach of the Constitution - the Republicans put it back where it should be - the Democrats dont care about the Constitution unless it supports their own political purposes.

 

21 hours ago, ChicagoExpat said:

I've seen you say this a few times.  He has already said he'd debate her.  And quite honestly, he wins debates.  He eviscerated his Republican primary opponents, Biden, and Hillary.  Will she "dissect him like a corner at an autopsy"?  Maybe, but I doubt it.  Much is made of her being a prosecutor previously, but was she good?  Will that count?  I watched her at a Senate Judicial Committee years ago (2016?): she came in late, chatted loudly and rudely with Corey Booker while her colleagues were holding the hearing, asked three gotcha questions and walked out without listening to the responses.  Is this relevant?  Not sure... but I was unimpressed with her from that point onward.

It's official! (26 July)Trump has cancelled the planned debate in September with Kamala Harris. And we all know why - except you probably!

1 minute ago, ChrisKC said:

It's official! (26 July)Trump has cancelled the planned debate in September with Kamala Harris. And we all know why - except you probably!

 

Utter foolish nonsense. There never, ever was any planned debate in September with Kamala Harris. You can't cancel what never existed in the first place. We all know why you believe it, however. 

 

Trump campaign not convinced Kamala Harris will be Democratic nominee – won’t finalize debate until she is

 

6 minutes ago, BigStar said:

31 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Additionally, the party's stance on climate change is seen by some as inadequate in addressing the urgent need for environmental sustainability.

Yup, the leftist climate change fascism and associated scams and boondoggles are rejected. The science on all that isn't as settled as the fake news claims, BTW. Trump has said he's for a clean environment. But it's time for a return to common sense and an end to the rule of Greta Thunberg.

It always amazes me how lefties will quote something spoken by the media or Dems that they agree with, as absolute fact.

"the urgent need for environmental sustainability."

 

In the view of many scientists there is no climate emergency - it is all a massive over-reaction leading to enforced draconian measures of control that are causing massive economic and social and personal harm.   Clearly people have failed to learn the lessons of the Covid disaster - thosde in power have merely replaced a problem that with the next 'problem' - and are exploting that to their advantage (as they always do).

 

There is an old saying - 'beware of the cure being worse than the disease'.  Those words of wisdom are being ignored on the alter of academic ignorance and vested interests. If a scientist cannot get funding to run a research program to prove that increasing temperatures are small, and that what is happening is not mainly due to human causes, then it is obvious that there is a narrative that is being protected at all costs (also reminds me of Covid). 

 

This guy below is one of the many scientists and experts who are currently stating their opposition to this current narrative being exploited by those with power and wealth, and results in delusional activists who want to 'shut down oil'.   

How to talk sense about climate change (linkedin.com)

 

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

You, like so many others give this semi senile, incoherent liar, far too much credit. She would call him out on his lies, and instantly humiliate him. 

Which lies would she call him out on?

4 hours ago, impulse said:

Here comes the MSM cover-up.

 

‘Articles Were Wrong’: CNN Fact Checker Says Media Incorrectly Labeled Kamala ‘Border Czar’

 

CNN senior fact checker Daniel Dale said on Thursday that the media incorrectly labeled Vice President Kamala Harris the “border czar.”

 

Media outlets rushed to erase their own reporting to downplay Harris’ role in managing the border crisis by saying she is solely responsible for addressing “root causes” in Latin American countries. 

 

https://dailycaller.com/2024/07/25/cnn-fact-checker-daniel-dale-media-kamala-harris-border-czar/

Into the memory hole...

11 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

It's official! (26 July)Trump has cancelled the planned debate in September with Kamala Harris. And we all know why - except you probably!

There is no doubt that he's scared of her and historically he is not done very well against intelligent women, he doesn't like them for one, and they just seem to get under his skin. She would have creamed him in a debate and caused him a great deal of humiliation. I knew he would cancel, that's just who he is, he's a major coward. He talks big, but that is about it. 

6 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Utter foolish nonsense. There never, ever was any planned debate in September with Kamala Harris. You can't cancel what never existed in the first place. We all know why you believe it, however. 

 

Trump campaign not convinced Kamala Harris will be Democratic nominee – won’t finalize debate until she is

 

I didn't make it up - Its official - check it up before making comments. There is a written statement announced for the public that includes you! Whether it was finalised or not, it has been stated clearly there will be no debate between Trump and Kamala Harris!

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Which lies would she call him out on?

Perhaps the 30 lies that he uttered in the last debate, or perhaps the 25 lies that he uttered in his convention speech, or perhaps any of the hundreds of lies that he's told over the last few years? The man has no relationship with truth, even his supporters acknowledge that. 

4 hours ago, gargamon said:

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the vast majority of the people that worked for Trump in the White House that Trump said were the best people ever are lining up to say he should never be allowed back in the office again.

Yeah? Which people said that? Oh, I forgot, you're just regurgitating something Whoppi said 

10 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

It's official! (26 July)Trump has cancelled the planned debate in September with Kamala Harris. And we all know why - except you probably!

Lies.  Trump's team has questioned the second debate because the Dems have not yet officially changed their candidate and cannot until the DNC in Chicago.  Likewise, Trump's team want the ABC replaced and more 'independence' on the chosen adjudicators. The last CNN debate was a softball exercise managed by the 'independent adjudicators' clearly in Biden's favour - and yet he still clearly lost. 

 

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Into the memory hole...

 

The frantic rewriting of history to elevate and crown Kamala begins.

 

2 hours ago, rct99q said:

Care to quote what JD said about Trump, as he is hard to understand these days with Trump's Willie in his mouth.

Willie in the mouth? You're talking about Kamala, yes?

12 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Utter foolish nonsense. There never, ever was any planned debate in September with Kamala Harris. You can't cancel what never existed in the first place. We all know why you believe it, however. 

 

Trump campaign not convinced Kamala Harris will be Democratic nominee – won’t finalize debate until she is

 

That is a rather enormous bit of deflection and nonsense, he did have a plan to debate with Biden, Biden was the presidential candidate, so it makes total sense that the debate commitment would continue, with the current dem candidate. 

 

However he is simply showing us how much of a coward he is, and we all know how poorly he does against intelligent women. He would have been humiliated badly. 

4 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

There is a written statement announced for the public that includes you!

 

Where's the written statement? The non-cancellation of a non-event is currently being used by Kamala and the fake news to support the lie and fantasy of a "running scared" Trump for the gullible such as yourself. In fact he's said he's already suggested 2 debates with Kamala. But they can't happen until she's an official candidate.

 

What he cancelled was the second debate with Biden. He's not running now.

23 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

It's official! (26 July)Trump has cancelled the planned debate in September with Kamala Harris. And we all know why - except you probably!

Shouldn’t the “democrats” make it official that Harris is formally confirmed as the nominee first? Why is it that the lefties are always salivating and jumping before the gun?

Fake news. This is only reported on dodgy right wing media outlets. Stunning some like these outlets.

Just now, novacova said:

Shouldn’t the “democrats” make it official that Harris is the nominee first? Why is it that the lefties are always salivating and jumping before the gun?

You are right - technically. But all the reports I have followed and the speeches I have heard from her and Trump - there is every likelihood that Kamala with be the official nominee 100% at their Convention.

 

I admit, they are "salivating" but there is a difference between a nice juicy steak and a bowl of noodles so the choice is easy to make and support!