All the Blood pressure medications

[georgegeorgia]

My doctor once put me on AMLODIPINE a blood pressure medication,I didn't tolerate it well so went off it ,tiredness ,swollen ankles

 

My blood pressure remains at around 150,160/90, probably caused by the Testereone injections I have monthly 

 

I don't like taking this Blood pressure medication or any medication for that matter.

 

My doctor has decided to put me on one called VALSARTIN😱

 

I googled it ,it doesn't have good reviews unfortunately 

 

However says it helps with erectile dysfunction 🥴

I haven't bothered to start it yet because I'm concerned it may do more damage than good 

 

Anyone else here on Valsartin?

Did you cope with it ?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 3 by georgegeorgia

[KannikaP]

I find it strange that a Doctor can say 'try this medication for a few months', and then if your symptoms don't improve, they try another one, until you tell them it is working. 

In your case, why not try quitting the testosterone jabs if you know they are causing dangerously high BP.

[msbkk]

28 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

My doctor once put me on AMLODIPINE a blood pressure medication,I didn't tolerate it well so went off it ,tiredness ,swollen ankles

 

My blood pressure remains at around 150,160/90, probably caused by the Testereone injections I have monthly 

 

I don't like taking this Blood pressure medication or any medication for that matter.

 

My doctor has decided to put me on one called VALSARTIN😱

 

I googled it ,it doesn't have good reviews unfortunately 

 

However says it helps with erectile dysfunction 🥴

I haven't bothered to start it yet because I'm concerned it may do more damage than good 

 

Anyone else here on Valsartin?

Did you cope with it ?

 

 

 

 

 

If you think that  monthly testosterone might be responsible try a half dose 2 times per month to avoid spikes. 

[Presnock]

I never recommend anyone take any kind of medication especially if a doctor prescribes it but...I did recommend to my mother who suffered from high blood pressure and had to regularly visit the doctor for a new perscription.  I told her about taking a garlic supplement for one month, then stop taking the prescribed medication but continue with the garlic supplement.  After doing this, onher next visit to the doctor's office, he remarked that the medicine was finally working.  He gave her a new prescription which she tossed into the trashcan - her blood pressure remained steady and within healthy limits for the next 20 years.  Just saying, I for sure don't know if it works but it seemed to do so for my mother

[Moonlover]

26 minutes ago, Presnock said:

I never recommend anyone take any kind of medication especially if a doctor prescribes it but...I did recommend to my mother who suffered from high blood pressure and had to regularly visit the doctor for a new perscription.  I told her about taking a garlic supplement for one month, then stop taking the prescribed medication but continue with the garlic supplement.  After doing this, onher next visit to the doctor's office, he remarked that the medicine was finally working.  He gave her a new prescription which she tossed into the trashcan - her blood pressure remained steady and within healthy limits for the next 20 years.  Just saying, I for sure don't know if it works but it seemed to do so for my mother

Good advice. Doctors would never give such advise of course because like all alternative therapies, they lack what they call efficacy. (and there's no profit in it for them)

 

I am prone to high blood pressure but I have never taken medication or even consulted a doctor about it.

 

Good diet (including plenty of garlic), exercise, relaxation through meditation and a carefree lifestyle is my recipe. With this approach I'm able to keep my BP in the pre-high blood pressure range, which suits me just fine.

 

Edited August 3 by Moonlover

[georgegeorgia]

53 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

I find it strange that a Doctor can say 'try this medication for a few months', and then if your symptoms don't improve, they try another one, until you tell them it is working. 

In your case, why not try quitting the testosterone jabs if you know they are causing dangerously high BP.

You ask the same question my GP asked 

Why ? Because it gives me energy and power for the gym,it makes me feel muscle strong 

 

I will say this though.

I had a gym weightlifting gym friend a few years ago in Pattaya ,he was a business owner very well known in Pattaya.

Combined testereone along with high blood pressure, Dead 

 

Edited August 3 by georgegeorgia

[georgegeorgia]

28 minutes ago, Presnock said:

I never recommend anyone take any kind of medication especially if a doctor prescribes it but...I did recommend to my mother who suffered from high blood pressure and had to regularly visit the doctor for a new perscription.  I told her about taking a garlic supplement for one month, then stop taking the prescribed medication but continue with the garlic supplement.  After doing this, onher next visit to the doctor's office, he remarked that the medicine was finally working.  He gave her a new prescription which she tossed into the trashcan - her blood pressure remained steady and within healthy limits for the next 20 years.  Just saying, I for sure don't know if it works but it seemed to do so for my mother

I do eat a lot of raw garlic and will try to eat more 

Garlic is great in my opinion 

 

[georgegeorgia]

I just purchased this medication from the pharmacy VALSARTIN also known as DILART 

 

Haven't tried it yet ,may wait a while 

Apparently side effects fatigue, 

I don't like the sound of that 

 

 

Edited August 3 by georgegeorgia

[save the frogs]

this guy, who is himself a doctor, is criticizing the medical community for being "overly aggressive in lowering blood pressure".

 

 

 

[Doctor Tom]

9 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

I do eat a lot of raw garlic and will try to eat more 

Garlic is great in my opinion 

 

Well you will never get bitten by Dracula. 

[dddave]

I was prescribed VALSARTAN 75mg (Diovan here) in 2016 after bypass surgery.  I never noticed any side effects.  Several years ago, prior to Covid, there was a report of carcinogenic contamination in Valsartan and it became difficult to buy for several years.  I switched to LOSARTAN 25mg on Doctors advice.  Similar to Valsartan but with a shorter active time span and recommended to take at bedtime.

Neither "helps" with ED, both are just less prone to contribute to ED then other classes of BP medications.   I recently resumed taking Valsartan (40mg) on my Cardiologists advice simply because of it's longer active effectiveness of 24 hours. It is considerably more expensive than Losartan.

My BP has been between 115-130/70-85 for several years.  When I experimented with TESTOSTERONE injections under a Doctors supervision for 6 months last year my BP notably rose 10-15 points, both sides.  I was 80 at the time and it did not seem to help much with ED though it did give me more energy.  

Edited August 3 by dddave

[NickyLouie]

You know who pays for the all the new studies on optium BP levels?

Yep, Big Pharma.

They even recently lowered the ideal numbers again.

 

 

[Ben Zioner]

Why not stop the Testosterone?

[georgegeorgia]

1 hour ago, Ben Zioner said:

Why not stop the Testosterone?

It gives me energy for the gym

 

It doesn't work for erection dysfunction well not for me 

 

It makes my moods more happier ,I'm now addicted to it 

 

It's obviously affecting my health long term,it's dangerous stuff 

Edited August 3 by georgegeorgia

[swissie]

7 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

My doctor once put me on AMLODIPINE a blood pressure medication,I didn't tolerate it well so went off it ,tiredness ,swollen ankles

 

My blood pressure remains at around 150,160/90, probably caused by the Testereone injections I have monthly 

 

I don't like taking this Blood pressure medication or any medication for that matter.

 

My doctor has decided to put me on one called VALSARTIN😱

 

I googled it ,it doesn't have good reviews unfortunately 

 

However says it helps with erectile dysfunction 🥴

I haven't bothered to start it yet because I'm concerned it may do more damage than good 

 

Anyone else here on Valsartin?

Did you cope with it ?

 

 

 

 

 

So far I was on 3 different BP medications. (including Valsartin). All of them had one thing in common: They ALL made me tired, weak and listless.

Garlik was mentioned here, I will try it.

Needless to say, if I will meet people I don't really like, I will use raw garlik before. When meeting people I like, I will use a garlik substitute before.

[georgegeorgia]

2 hours ago, swissie said:

different BP medications. (including Valsartin). All of them had one thing in common: They ALL made me tired, weak and listless.

Yes that's the problem with these 

Tiredness fatigue 

[Sheryl]

24 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Yes that's the problem with these 

Tiredness fatigue 

Vast majority of people do not experience this. As with most side effects, just an unlucky minority.

[3NUMBAS]

i went back on amlodipine as beta blockers made me feel bad plus bisoprolol fumarate made me feel bad as well .eat apricots to lower BP i read lately

 

amlodipine is bad for your gums look up the photos of gums after wards not a pretty site

BP now normal since going  back on amloipine

 

dont ignore high BP as several mates did and dropped dead

 

they were very cavalier about their meds

[Sheryl]

2 hours ago, swissie said:

So far I was on 3 different BP medications. (including Valsartin). All of them had one thing in common: They ALL made me tired, weak and listless.

 

3 different medications of which class/type?

 

If you experience side effects with one BP medication, likely will do so with other medications of the same or related class. In the case of valsartan, it is an ARB and these in turn are closely related to ACE inhibitors. So should try something not in either class. 

[3NUMBAS]

a mate sears by tadadlafill to do 2 things a good wooody and low BP

[TedG]

 

 

I used to have a BP in the 130s over 90.   The doctor put me on BP medication, which made me lethargic.    I changed my diet, lost weight, and exercised 3x per week.   Now I'm 110 over 70.  Now I'm off BP medication. 

Edited August 3 by TedG

[georgegeorgia]

2 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

a mate sears by tadadlafill to do 2 things a good wooody and low BP

Ahhh yes !

Strange you say that ....a guy at my work said the same thing !

Cialis or talandfil reckon it works at lowering the BP 

[georgegeorgia]

3 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Vast majority of people do not experience this. As with most side effects, just an unlucky minority.

I haven't opened the packet yet , still dwelling on whether to take it 

[mania]

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Ahhh yes !

Strange you say that ....a guy at my work said the same thing !

Cialis or talandfil reckon it works at lowering the BP 

Actually both ACE & ARB meds are also Vasodilators that open your blood vessels which is basically what the drugs you mention do also

[Pumpuynarak]

6 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

3 different medications of which class/type?

 

If you experience side effects with one BP medication, likely will do so with other medications of the same or related class. In the case of valsartan, it is an ARB and these in turn are closely related to ACE inhibitors. So should try something not in either class. 

 

I'm currently using Amlodipine and its doing a good job with my BP but i'm getting severe ankle and foot swelling. I'm thinking of trying something else and following your suggestion am thinking of trying Losartan (CAZAAR) 50mg, i assume its available in Thailand.

 

What do you think Sheryl ?

[Olmate]

George, you need a diuretic,  they lower BP and makes you pi$$ alot off, that seems to be ideally suited to you.! 

[Presnock]

15 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

You know who pays for the all the new studies on optium BP levels?

Yep, Big Pharma.

They even recently lowered the ideal numbers again.

 

 

yep they only continue to reap record profits if the masses remain ill...never forget that...just check out the number of "new BILLIONAIRS" during the COVID pandemic!

[ignis]

2 hours ago, Pumpuynarak said:

 

I'm currently using Amlodipine and its doing a good job with my BP but i'm getting severe ankle and foot swelling. I'm thinking of trying something else and following your suggestion am thinking of trying Losartan (CAZAAR) 50mg, i assume its available in Thailand.

 

What do you think Sheryl ?

Dr BP meds I had since 1991 are classed as very old and newer improved Med's is  Amlodipine = severe ankle and foot swelling for me, Dr tried other things also ending in pine = the same  eg Manidipine

 

I take for past 4 years Losartan 20mg, mornings, but go on my BP readings every morning if low do not take > if over 165/88 then take 40 mg.. 

Also take Dozozin  2 MG 1 x  Evening > recommended dose for Male age 74 is 6 mg, have tried 4 mg but also get ankle and foot swelling, so stick on 2mg

 

 

[Sheryl]

3 hours ago, Pumpuynarak said:

 

I'm currently using Amlodipine and its doing a good job with my BP but i'm getting severe ankle and foot swelling. I'm thinking of trying something else and following your suggestion am thinking of trying Losartan (CAZAAR) 50mg, i assume its available in Thailand.

 

What do you think Sheryl ?

You should discuss with your doctor as there may have been a specific reason for putting you on a calcium channel blocker.

 

If there was not then yes could switch to an ARB like Losartan. Readily available in Thailand and inexpensive. However at 50mg dose sometimes effect does not last full 24 hours i.e. your BP may rise later in the day. 

[sirineou]

19 hours ago, Presnock said:

I never recommend anyone take any kind of medication especially if a doctor prescribes it

You had better luck with medication prescribed by your barber?