I'm confused, USA is now a communist country?

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, Thai Visa Member 999999 said:

Which policy kills people?

 

How many kids that age have had a sex change operation? Three? Four? And you know how many? None? When trans operations are your biggest concern, there's a problem upstairs, between the ears.

You support these policies. Weird.

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, Thai Visa Member 999999 said:

And this is a concern of your because you want to have one?

You want 6yos to drive trucks, drink alcohol and join armies? Like sex changes they should be for adults only. Amazing you can't even think through issues.

[soalbundy]

17 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Trump cultist support Putin, Xi and Kim but in the same breath accuse liberals being Marxist, Maoists and commies.

So when about 50 % votes Red and 50 % blue that makes the States, by your own logic a communist country.

 

 

There never has been a communist country, plenty of dictatorships claiming to be, even the Soviet Union didn't give itself the title communist, it was a dictatorship that called itself the Soviet Socialist Republic of Russia. (no, socialist doesn't equate with communist)

[thjames88]

In CHINA, its a fact that the judicial system is politically bias and you cannot get a fair trial.  All court judges are appointed by the government and thus have a strong political bias, not to mention the leaders of the local police force who also have a explicit and extreme political affiliation.

 

while they pretend to have checks and balances in place but the actual fact is they are put in absolute control for 4 to 8 years, and in the most senior members of the court system are appointed for life depending political  party they belong to, with no checks or responsibility for fairness in the system.

 

now reread and replace China with USA!

Edited August 8 by thjames88

[bubblegum]

1 hour ago, susanlea said:

Adults vs kids. Sick.

 

[bamnutsak]

 

"I'm confused, USA is now a communist country?"

 

 

Trump says "...we are turning into a Communist country..."

 

 

So if you believe the dear leader then no need to be confused.

 

 

 

[Jenkins9039]

American style communism

UK style communism 

 

yes,.

[CM Dad]

18 hours ago, susanlea said:

Troll

Weirdo

[CM Dad]

1 hour ago, susanlea said:

You want 6yos to drive trucks, drink alcohol and join armies? Like sex changes they should be for adults only. Amazing you can't even think through issues.

Weirdo

[susanlea]

31 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

"I'm confused, USA is now a communist country?"

 

 

Trump says "...we are turning into a Communist country..."

 

 

So if you believe the dear leader then no need to be confused.

 

 

 

More rules than Vietnam.

[CM Dad]

1 hour ago, susanlea said:

You support these policies. Weird.

These are choices, not policies.  You and your comments are weird.

[marin]

Babble all you want Susanlea,

 

How Tim Walz became beloved by young voters with a message that the GOP is ‘weird’

 

https://apnews.com/article/kamala-walz-vp-weird-trump-gen-z-f9d718890c3ca907f42dba5934075382

 

 

Millions and millions of young voters, not going for lies. Lies are all you have Susanlea. Pity about that. 

[jacey]

the consequences of having too much freedom, people can say what ever they want regardless good or bad, these maga doesn't know anything about communist they might heard of it but know nothing, some of them never leave their back yard to educate themselves how the world works

[bubblegum]

4 minutes ago, jacey said:

the consequences of having too much freedom, people can say what ever they want regardless good or bad, these maga doesn't know anything about communist they might heard of it but know nothing, some of them never leave their back yard to educate themselves how the world works

I agree. If like stated by @renaissanc the democrats are indeed "Radical Marxist" then the whole of Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zeeland are communist. After all even the US democrats are tending more to the right than most of these countries.

[StandardIssue]

Ah, just delete this post please. Yes you are confused. Perhaps to a little more research than browsing random Facebook posts when trying to make your grand conclusions.

Edited August 8 by StandardIssue

[Captain Flack]

A couple of reported posts removed, please remember the use of derogatory nicknames are not acceptable and posts will be removed.

[Lacessit]

I have to smile when Americans start frothing at the mouth at the mere mention of socialism and communism, it really is so ridiculous.

 

The American stock market and free enterprise system is unbridled capitalism, the complete antithesis of socialism , let alone communism.

 

Check out what the pharmaceutical industry charges for its products. Martin Shkreli ring any bells?

 

Most Americans would not know socialism if it bit them on the bum.

 

In Australia, we have had socialist governments on and off since Federation, they are the ones most likely to introduce major reforms.

 

I agree the OP is extracting the urine, it's quite amusing to see the Pavlovian responses.

 

 

[Rimmer]

Some unattributed posts and a link to an unapproved source has been removed, also flames and bickering, you need to stop this now.

 

 

[bubblegum]

@Lacessit I am indeed extracting the urine as you so elegantly stated but not meant to be trolling, merely to show the absurdness of cultist thinking. 

[Dexxter]

4 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

If Trump gets elected essentially essentially, it will be a total disaster now when he loses legitimately, I’m just curious where will he start his first he’s a liar. He’s a thief. He’s a crook.

This is probably why he loves Putin. Birds of a feather and all that....

[spidermike007]

Have you ever read the history of the Bolsheviks? Do you even know the meaning of the word communist? It has become a juvenile meme for intellectually lazy conservatives in the US, to describe the democrats. 

 

Although Marx called for democracy, Stalin did not tolerate even the suspicion of dissent. Between 1936 and 1938, Stalin executed around one million people. This figure includes over one-third of the Communist Party and nearly 80 percent of his highest-ranking military leaders.

 

Stalin died in 1953, but his legacy shaped the Soviet Union for decades. His policies traumatized and killed millions. Stalin also propelled the Soviet Union into conflict with the United States. 

 

Communism typically equates with failed agrarian policies, such as we have seen in Cuba and North Korea. It typically means failed economic policy, with the exception being China, which has adapted a hybrid capitalist model, but maintained absolute control of imports and the currency. 

 

It is a horrific, but idealistic system which has failed in all but a handful of nations, only one of which has something that even closely resembles economic success. 

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, soalbundy said:

There never has been a communist country, plenty of dictatorships claiming to be, even the Soviet Union didn't give itself the title communist, it was a dictatorship that called itself the Soviet Socialist Republic of Russia. (no, socialist doesn't equate with communist)

It is an idealistic system that would only work if the population had no greed. Even idealists like Castro and Che Guevara became totally corrupt and heinous serial killers, once they got their hands on the power. Power corrupts the soul. Capitalism has its issues, but nothing is worse than communism. 

[harryviking]

20 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Trump cultist support Putin, Xi and Kim but in the same breath accuse liberals being Marxist, Maoists and commies.

So when about 50 % votes Red and 50 % blue that makes the States, by your own logic a communist country.

 

 

Trump is an imbecile! 

[bubblegum]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is an idealistic system that would only work if the population had no greed. Even idealists like Castro and Che Guevara became totally corrupt and heinous serial killers, once they got their hands on the power. Power corrupts the soul. Capitalism has its issues, but nothing is worse than communism. 

Che was more the idealist, Castro was the dictator.

[spidermike007]

5 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Che was more the idealist, Castro was the dictator.

Both were idealists initially. Castro became an oppressive, multi billionaire dictator. Che became a serial killer. 

[bubblegum]

19 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Both were idealists initially. Castro became an oppressive, multi billionaire dictator. Che became a serial killer. 

Che became very dead in Peru was it?

[Lacessit]

21 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is an idealistic system that would only work if the population had no greed. Even idealists like Castro and Che Guevara became totally corrupt and heinous serial killers, once they got their hands on the power. Power corrupts the soul. Capitalism has its issues, but nothing is worse than communism. 

There is nothing wrong with a communist system in theory. The problem comes when humans try to bend it for their own purposes. In that respect, it is equivalent to fascism.

 

A long time ago, there was an article in "The Economist" which illustrated the problems of a planned economy. It was called " In the lunatic bus factory"

Two factories, bus and truck, Soviet Russia. The bus factory supplied the chassis for the truck factory.

The bus factory made more profit on the buses than a truck chassis, so supply of chassis was low.

The solution of the truck factory was to buy buses, demolish the coachwork back to the chassis, then build the truck.

No way anyone can kill the profit motive in humans.

 

[soalbundy]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is an idealistic system that would only work if the population had no greed. Even idealists like Castro and Che Guevara became totally corrupt and heinous serial killers, once they got their hands on the power. Power corrupts the soul. Capitalism has its issues, but nothing is worse than communism. 

Strike that last word and replace it with dictatorship. If the basis of communism is truly, "To each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities" then it would be an ideal system but it was never actually practiced, it was always dictatorships from the word go, it is wrong to criticize a system that has never been put into practice. I am not a Christian but the religion is often vilified these days but again it is a religion that has never been practiced by a whole society, the USA is not a Christian society despite all the hypocritical assertions and in Europe it has died out as a mass religion. Unfettered capitalism is a horror show as can be seen from the past in Victorian England or the late 1800's in America, only social democracy with controlled capitalism, a parliament, trade unions and a free press can control the worst excesses of the human psyche and even that isn't perfect, there is always someone or group willing to take advantage of the weak links in the system which exist in order not to slide down the slope to dictatorship. There is a lack of true spirituality within mankind which has the propensity to stamp on the weakest and take what they can.

 

[novacova]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

There is nothing wrong with a communist system in theory.

In theory everything is wrong with communism. In order for communism to function, government must have autocratic control over the people. Though there’s nothing wrong with the idea of communism though the idea is severely flawed, but it never works and never turns out the way it’s suggested. In other words, the idea of communism is pretty much a scam with various labels, progressivism, socialism and liberalism. Anyhow “liberals”, good luck with your so called “in the interest of saving democracy” joke.

[Cameroni]

4 hours ago, Callmeishmael said:

The old definitions of right and left are being redefined.  For example the left used to be anti-war, but now the right is anti-war (though not because they love peace, but because they are isolationists).  As for the right admiring Xi, Putin and Kim, this ties in with the isolationism, they really don't care how other countries are run and they admire strong leaders.  So, for the Maga people strong leaders are good and weak (Western Democratic) leaders are bad.

 

It was already like this in the 1930s, then too it was the left FDR who wanted to go to war, and the right was isolationist.

 

 

Edited August 8 by Cameroni