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1 minute ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

You call it what you will - the Military is not a workplace and introducing those 'initiatives' was and is ridiculous. Right now many businesses are rolling back their DEI and similar initiatives - they are BS and bad for productivity. That such nonsense ever reach the Military is horrendous. 

 

 

You must have been gutted when they stopped sending children down the mines.

 

 

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1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Sad.

The fact that a Court has not ruled that what I have said was incorrect - then your position is that everything I have said about Trump is correct.

Such a sad life you live - trolling all day every day - get a life mate.

What is sad is that you believe that a national election was stolen in 2020, without seeing any proof.

 

Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy?

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1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

You must have been gutted when they stopped sending children down the mines.

 

 

Yeah how would you like one of thos DEI doctors operating on you?  Not me.

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8 hours ago, Presnock said:

where was his "courage" in the 1960's?  Heel spurs! but still playing all the sports in college.  I have had heel spurs off and on my entire adult life but it sure didn't keep me out of the military or VN.   I just wait for his campaign speech about the medals he was awarded for VN service or the Middle East/Afghan service.  

 

I obviously meant in media discourse and politics, not artillery assaults. Jesus  Christ...

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12 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

What's a DEI doctor?

Diversity, equity, and inclusion - US laws changed so that those students that some felt were disadvantaged due to  poor education, could still attend the top universities and could graduate having lower scores than previous graduates of that university including doctors - that means these DEI students don't have to meet the criteria to become a doctor!

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1 hour ago, Presnock said:

Diversity, equity, and inclusion - US laws changed so that those students that some felt were disadvantaged due to  poor education, could still attend the top universities and could graduate having lower scores than previous graduates of that university including doctors - that means these DEI students don't have to meet the criteria to become a doctor!

Really?

 

Can you cite these federal laws?

 

Do you have any opinion on legacy admissions to universities?

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51 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Really?

 

Can you cite these federal laws?

 

Do you have any opinion on legacy admissions to universities?

Actually, Biden signed that executive order on DEI on his first day in office.  Yes, opportunities exist for all that are willing to make some sacrifice.  One of the reason cited for this xecutive order was racial discrimination.  The group of immigrants from AFRICA in modern history are the most successful group as a whole.  When interviewed those successful people say that they immigrated to the US because of the opportunities available to all.  I had co-workers of different races that told me whenever they would return home, they had to forget the suits and ties, put on old jeans and ragged shirts and corn-row their hair and speak in the street talk in order to survive while on home turf. Just saying.  I also realize now that some states are outlawing DEI for that state.

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27 minutes ago, Presnock said:

Actually, Biden signed that executive order on DEI on his first day in office.  Yes, opportunities exist for all that are willing to make some sacrifice.  One of the reason cited for this xecutive order was racial discrimination.  The group of immigrants from AFRICA in modern history are the most successful group as a whole.  When interviewed those successful people say that they immigrated to the US because of the opportunities available to all.  I had co-workers of different races that told me whenever they would return home, they had to forget the suits and ties, put on old jeans and ragged shirts and corn-row their hair and speak in the street talk in order to survive while on home turf. Just saying.  I also realize now that some states are outlawing DEI for that state.

 

 

2 hours ago, Presnock said:

Diversity, equity, and inclusion - US laws changed so that those students that some felt were disadvantaged due to  poor education, could still attend the top universities and could graduate having lower scores than previous graduates of that university including doctors - that means these DEI students don't have to meet the criteria to become a doctor!

 

So, US laws were not changed, since an Executive Order is not a law. Congress passes laws. 

 

Given that Executive Orders only cover the Federal government, please explain how Biden's Executive Order impacted private university admissions, as you claimed.

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19 hours ago, Presnock said:

Yeah how would you like one of thos DEI doctors operating on you?  Not me.

 

 

So they don't have to qualify or pass the same examinations as all other doctors?????

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4 hours ago, Presnock said:

Diversity, equity, and inclusion - US laws changed so that those students that some felt were disadvantaged due to  poor education, could still attend the top universities and could graduate having lower scores than previous graduates of that university including doctors - that means these DEI students don't have to meet the criteria to become a doctor!

 

 

Do you have a link for your last sentence.....

 

In the U.S., Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives in education, including in fields like medicine, are aimed at promoting equal access, support, and opportunities for students from historically underrepresented or disadvantaged groups. However, all students, regardless of their background, are required to meet the same academic and professional standards in order to graduate and become licensed professional.

 

 

 

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Posts using derogatory and toxic nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly, this applies to both sides of the political debate.

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I wonder if the Trumpers stranded at his Coachella rally still love him.

 

You know that the 1000s stuck after the rally weren't from Coachella because they couldn't call a friend to pick them up.

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1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

I wonder if the Trumpers stranded at his Coachella rally still love him.

 

You know that the 1000s stuck after the rally weren't from Coachella because they couldn't call a friend to pick them up.

Surely not waiting for  bus?  Thought it was only Harris who bussed crowds in?

 

On the other hand, they have until January 5 to vote (according to Trump in his latest Town hall)

 

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On 10/4/2024 at 11:30 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Agenda47 and what he did last time - you know - no wars and economy good and jobs and etc etc etc

Still no reply about the impossibility and empty promise of Trump to cut gasoline prices in half.
Another issue: for racists, Trump = Hitler

 

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Trump opened up a 10-point lead in the Real Clear Politics betting average on Sunday, his largest lead over Harris and the largest lead any candidate has enjoyed since the former president’s 10-point lead on July 31.

Trump opens up largest betting lead since days after Biden dropped out | Fox News

 

Within that article is a snippet from CNN with an election 'expert' who notes that Trump has a far higher than history vote level within Black and Hispanic groups, while Harris has a far higher than history level within College graduates. I would say that will play out that way as the liberals (especially women) will support Harris no matter what. But will if be enough - I think the betting polls show that most 'ordinary' people will be voting Trump and that will overcome Harris' woke liberal female College students/grads.  The people who demonstrated in favour of Hamas will not be voting for Trump - we all know that.  

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1 minute ago, Steven55 said:

Still no reply about the impossibility and empty promise of Trump to cut gasoline prices in half.
Another issue: for racists, Trump = Hitler

 

And still no proof he said it - and where that was and when it was. But I think he will certainly halve it and quickly within his term as POTUS, from the peak level it was under Biden-Harris.  BY the way what was that peak level for gas in USA under Biden-Harris?

 

Yes we all have our retarded cousins we dont associate with. Like those demonstrators for Gaza, and all those radical Trans nutters, and all Pink/Blue haired nutters, and other very 'undesirable' people, who will be voting for Harris.  I think that they will cancel each other out and thus the real/normal People will decide who becomes POTUS.  

  

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5 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Trump opened up a 10-point lead in the Real Clear Politics betting average on Sunday, his largest lead over Harris and the largest lead any candidate has enjoyed since the former president’s 10-point lead on July 31.

Trump opens up largest betting lead since days after Biden dropped out | Fox News

 

Within that article is a snippet from CNN with an election 'expert' who notes that Trump has a far higher than history vote level within Black and Hispanic groups, while Harris has a far higher than history level within College graduates. I would say that will play out that way as the liberals (especially women) will support Harris no matter what. But will if be enough - I think the betting polls show that most 'ordinary' people will be voting Trump and that will overcome Harris' woke liberal female College students/grads.  The people who demonstrated in favour of Hamas will not be voting for Trump - we all know that.  

Possible of course. But given that after the Dobbs decision, the polls underreported Democratic vote by an average of 3.8%, there may be something that the polls aren't capturing.

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28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Possible of course. But given that after the Dobbs decision, the polls underreported Democratic vote by an average of 3.8%, there may be something that the polls aren't capturing.

There is the abortion issue - perhaps Harris is saving that for last. She will need it as a last desperate move to get more female votes. But the truth is that the intelligent females on both sides know the POTUS cannot change the SCOTUS decision, and that it can only be overturned if it is challenged under the Constitution, and that all the SCOTUS did was to return the issue to the States where it belongs because it is a Health issue, not a 'rights' issue. But the stupid ones? They are voting Harris anyway.

 

Polls under reporting Dem votes would be a new one - it is usually the other way around.  Certainly not impossible, but that is why IMO it is about the betting where real money is on the line. If Trump wins the bookies will be paying out big, but if Harris wins they will be making a big profit.  But in politics 24 hours is a long time - anything can happen and some things will happen - but time is running out for Harris.  She is so desperate she wants the Fox controlled debate - but Trump knows he does not need it - she does, as a 'hail Mary'.  

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6 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

There is the abortion issue - perhaps Harris is saving that for last. She will need it as a last desperate move to get more female votes. But the truth is that the intelligent females on both sides know the POTUS cannot change the SCOTUS decision, and that it can only be overturned if it is challenged under the Constitution, and that all the SCOTUS did was to return the issue to the States where it belongs because it is a Health issue, not a 'rights' issue. But the stupid ones? They are voting Harris anyway.

 

Polls under reporting Dem votes would be a new one - it is usually the other way around.  Certainly not impossible, but that is why IMO it is about the betting where real money is on the line. If Trump wins the bookies will be paying out big, but if Harris wins they will be making a big profit.  But in politics 24 hours is a long time - anything can happen and some things will happen - but time is running out for Harris.  She is so desperate she wants the Fox controlled debate - but Trump knows he does not need it - she does, as a 'hail Mary'.  

Thanks for the harangue about abortion But of course there is no constitutional prohibition on Congress passing a law that follows the guidelines of Roe v. Wade.

 

As for The bookies.. where was the smart money in 2016?

 

And thanks for hearing about all the other irrelevant stuff too.

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17 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

There is the abortion issue - perhaps Harris is saving that for last. She will need it as a last desperate move to get more female votes. But the truth is that the intelligent females on both sides know the POTUS cannot change the SCOTUS decision, and that it can only be overturned if it is challenged under the Constitution, and that all the SCOTUS did was to return the issue to the States where it belongs because it is a Health issue, not a 'rights' issue. But the stupid ones? They are voting Harris anyway.

 

Polls under reporting Dem votes would be a new one - it is usually the other way around.  Certainly not impossible, but that is why IMO it is about the betting where real money is on the line. If Trump wins the bookies will be paying out big, but if Harris wins they will be making a big profit.  But in politics 24 hours is a long time - anything can happen and some things will happen - but time is running out for Harris.  She is so desperate she wants the Fox controlled debate - but Trump knows he does not need it - she does, as a 'hail Mary'.  

Another point you missed about the supreme Court is that if Trump is reelected and vacancy comes open, most likely he will appoint another Justice who shares view similar to the three that he's already appointed. So that would put a reversal of Dobbs even further out of reach. 

Anyway, as your previous comment demonstrated, you don't really understand how the legislative, executive and judicial branches of the US government work.

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8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Thanks for the harangue about abortion But of course there is no constitutional prohibition on Congress passing a law that follows the guidelines of Roe v. Wade.

 

As for The bookies.. where was the smart money in 2016?

 

And thanks for hearing about all the other irrelevant stuff too.

Yes there is - you obviously have no idea how Constitutional Law works. The 2022 challenge resulted in the ruling that there is no provision for any particular Health services in the USA Constitution.  In order to change that back, it would require a legal issue that challenges that interpretation of the Constitution. Do you know that Dobbs was a Govt employee that refused to allow an abortion under that State's Laws and was taken to Court by the Planned Parenthood abortionists - it sure did not turn out the way they wanted. The SCOTUS ruled that it was a State right to control Health issues, as per the Constitution. 

 

Everyone got 2016 wrong - a bookie in UK paid out before the election date. This time around they have learned not to read the tea leaves with such 'certainty' which also means Trump is actually well in front. A lot of people voted for Hillary as a means of supporting her to win, because they thought it was a 'good bet' - they have also learned their lesson too.

 

What is irrelevent to some is value to another - Pigs and Pearls - One man's meat........ etc etc etc..

 

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