On 9/20/2024 at 8:52 PM, johng said:

Any Proof has long since been eradicated   

your "fact checkers" will no doubt opine that there was never any proof  without providing "proof" of no proof 😋

 

Did you watch the mail in ballots  the automated counting machines that were ( and still are) open to hacking  let alone not accepting slightly out out spec paper   or the printers not able to print the paper in the first place  the illegal or dead voters ???

unexplained power cuts ,flooding and Covid outbreaks at polling stations etc etc etc...

Trump said that voting by mail = fraud. However, in2020 the most voting by mail was done in Florida... Trump won there.

And 'Stop the Steal' was already organized by Roger Stone in 2016 (before the elections), but obviously wasn't launched because Trump won.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/13/business/stop-the-steal-disinformation-campaign-invs/index.html

Trump = Fraud

30 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

It's cute that some people still think that Wikipedia is a reliable source.

In your estimate, how many people have to be involved in the conspiracy that "stole" the election?

 

In all your research ... cough cough..... you must have done some thinking about the number required, right?

1 minute ago, gamb00ler said:

In your estimate, how many people have to be involved in the conspiracy that "stole" the election?

 

I suspect one.

"The belief that only that is true which is proven with evidence, is a belief that cannot be proven with evidence".

 

Friedrich Nietzsche.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

"The belief that only that is true which is proven with evidence, is a belief that cannot be proven with evidence".

 

Friedrich Nietzsche.

I think Nietzsche flunked math.

 

There is also a corollary... you can't prove anything without evidence.

3 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I think Nietzsche flunked math.

 

There is also a corollary... you can't prove anything without evidence.

 

Why don't you go ahead and prove the premise that only that is true which is proven with evidence, using evidence, then?

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Why don't you go ahead and prove the premise that only that is true which is proven with evidence, using evidence, then?

It's your claim... you prove it.

9 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I think Nietzsche flunked math.

 

There is also a corollary... you can't prove anything without evidence.

 

He must have flunked Physics as well.....nothing is proven.....we just have, at any particular time, the best theory based on the evidence to date.

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Why don't you go ahead and prove the premise that only that is true which is proven with evidence, using evidence, then?

 

Or closer to home, prove that the election wasn't stolen.

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Or closer to home, prove that the election wasn't stolen.

 

 

60 judges, many Trump appointed, have said NO it wasn't.....

22 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

I suspect one.

 

Almost 40% of voters in the USA no longer trust the results.

 

It's okay if 40% disagree on the issues. But we have big problems when 40% don't trust the outcome.

Just now, impulse said:

 

Almost 40% of voters in the USA no longer trust the results.

 

It's okay if 40% disagree with the issues. But we have big problems when 40% don't trust the outcome.

 

 

As over 3 million US citizens also claim to have been abducted by aliens........I really don't hold any great store in claims 40% no longer trust the results?

 

 

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

As over 3 million US citizens also claim to have been abducted by aliens........I really don't hold any great store in claims 40% no longer trust the results.

 

That's less than 1%. We're talking almost 40%.

10 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

60 judges, many Trump appointed, have said NO it wasn't.....

 

That was in 2021, and those judges (including SCOTUS) didn't rule on the merits or the facts. Just the standing. It's been going mostly the other direction since then.

Ever notice  that the proponents of the claim of a stolen election never mention;

- The Republican gerrymandering of congressional districts to facilitate the election of GOP candidates

- The efforts to prevent voting by afro americans

-  There were over 60 court cases where judges, including judges appointed by President Trump and other Republican presidents, looked at the evidence and either found that there was no evidence to support a claim of fraud or that the plaintiffs  upon realizing that they were going to lose their case, dropped the case.

 

Why can't the proponents of the claim substantiate the claim? Whenever they get to court they have to admit that they have no evidence or that they were  merely advocating on behalf of their client and suggesting  that there was a  possibility.

38 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That's less than 1%. We're talking almost 40%.

 

 

The point being......... if three million are mental enough to believe they have been abducted by aliens that's a good indication of the gullibility of the rest of the nation.

 

 

 

37 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That was in 2021, and those judges (including SCOTUS) didn't rule on the merits or the facts. Just the standing. It's been going mostly the other direction since then.

 

 

You are saying there are court cases that have found evidence of significant (8 million plus) cases of vote rigging???????.....please post their rulings.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

It's cute that some people still think that Wikipedia is a reliable source.

 

 

......or Rogan, or Jones, or Qanon, or NYP, or Fox News, or .........

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Almost 40% of voters in the USA no longer trust the results.

 

It's okay if 40% disagree on the issues. But we have big problems when 40% don't trust the outcome.

We agree... that is a problem.... we just severely disagree on how to convince those 40% to trust science, math and government.

On 9/20/2024 at 8:52 PM, johng said:

Any Proof has long since been eradicated   

your "fact checkers" will no doubt opine that there was never any proof  without providing "proof" of no proof

Your post is utter delusional 🐂 💩

Damn...you Trumpster cultists are totally

wow-wee WHACK-O❗

4 hours ago, impulse said:

 

That's less than 1%. We're talking almost 40%.

Around 25% used to believe the pizzagate theory...

MAGAs claiming they don't need evidence! Who is surprised? 😀

1 hour ago, candide said:

MAGAs claiming they don't need evidence! Who is surprised? 😀

I laughed so hard when Mike Lindell offered millions if anybody could prove that his "data" was not evidence of voting machine hacking.  Then, a software developer showed the data was irrelevant to the 2020 election results.  Now the pillow guy has to pay out the 5 million $$.  A fool and his money...

3 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I laughed so hard when Mike Lindell offered millions if anybody could prove that his "data" was not evidence of voting machine hacking.  Then, a software developer showed the data was irrelevant to the 2020 election results.  Now the pillow guy has to pay out the 5 million $$.  A fool and his money...

 

 

OMG...is that true?....I mean really true...... not "Trump true"

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

OMG...is that true?....I mean really true...... not "Trump true"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/judge-says-mike-lindell-must-pay-5-million-man-won-prove-mike-wrong-ch-rcna139986

 

5 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/judge-says-mike-lindell-must-pay-5-million-man-won-prove-mike-wrong-ch-rcna139986

 

 

 

Oh now!!....wait on...the judge must be in on this....10%?......we all know the election was stolen.....Biden appointed judge?

 

This is all a smoke screen to make people think Lindell was wrong.....not buying it.

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

You are saying there are court cases that have found evidence of significant (8 million plus) cases of vote rigging???????.....please post their rulings.

 

 

 

 

 

No answer was the stern reply.

 

 

Trump supporters claimed there was widespread outcome-determinate fraud so they poured $10 million dollars and spent eight months doing a full audit, full hand recount and viewed hundred of hours of security video in the state they thought it would be the easiest to prove fraud, Arizona. 
 

What were the results? Absolutely no evidence of voter fraud and in the end they found that Biden received 384 votes that hadn’t been counted initially. 
 

It’s pretty obvious that the Trump supporters were repeatedly lied to by Trump and that they’re all really poor losers. 

18 minutes ago, Guitar God said:

Trump supporters claimed there was widespread outcome-determinate fraud so they poured $10 million dollars and spent eight months doing a full audit, full hand recount and viewed hundred of hours of security video in the state they thought it would be the easiest to prove fraud, Arizona. 
 

What were the results? Absolutely no evidence of voter fraud and in the end they found that Biden received 384 votes that hadn’t been counted initially. 
 

It’s pretty obvious that the Trump supporters were repeatedly lied to by Trump and that they’re all really poor losers. 

There must be a parallel universe in which Trump won, and MAGAs found a way to travel to it! 😃

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/03/06/is-it-actually-possible-to-travel-to-parallel-universes/

2 hours ago, candide said:

There must be a parallel universe in which Trump won, and MAGAs found a way to travel to it! 😃

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/03/06/is-it-actually-possible-to-travel-to-parallel-universes/

If true, I would have a great deal of difficulty using the word parallel since the universe that suffered a Trump victory would be headed in a distinctly different direction than this one.