Rapid Greening of Antarctica: Scientists Alarmed by Climate Change Impact

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4 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Looking at the WaPo data, and understanding the woefully compacted timescale reminds me of a ScAm article I read on a flight to China in the early 2000's.  Their research at the time indicated that the earth was headed into another ice age before agriculture turned that around 2500 years ago.  Seems like global warming kept us out of an ice age.

 

Looking at the WaPo graph, it's obvious that climate has changed many times before industrialization.  And blaming it on CO2 from industry is just a temporal correlation.  The very CO2 that makes modern life possible.  Otherwise, billions of us would be freezing in the dark.

 

BTW, ScAm is my new name for Scientific American, since they (for the first time in their 175 year history) came out and endorsed a candidate.  That was basement candidate Biden.  So much for their scientific powers of deduction, and their credibility.

You read no such thing in the 2000's. Unless you were reading from papers published in the 70's. Back then, there were a few papers published by climatologists, which was a new science then, that postulated the earth might be cooling. But even back then. the majority of papers favored warming.

 

THE MYTH OF THE 1970s GLOBAL COOLING SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS

An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/89/9/2008bams2370_1.xml

 

If you're looking for a scam, try looking closer to home.

[riclag]

9 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Are you claiming that strawberries and apples are a bad thing?

 

Meanwhile WaPo said the quiet part out loud:

 

Climate change has been going on for billions of years, long before industry.  So I hope you don't mind if I object to fraudsters asking for my money to fix the billion year old process.

 

Brilliantly researched!

 

[Rimmer]

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@Adam Tomaszewski

 

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[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/7/2024 at 9:31 AM, Social Media said:

Scientists from the universities of Exeter and Hertfordshire, along with the British Antarctic Survey, analyzed vegetation levels on the Antarctic Peninsula, a mountainous region pointing toward South America.

Something most would not know is that the peninsula is known by people familiar with Antarctica as the "banana belt" as it's much warmer than most of the Ice cap.

 

The rest of Antarctica is in no danger of "greening" as the ground is frozen and devoid of nutrients.

 

There are apparently some plant varieties that survive under floating ice as unfrozen sea water is above 0 degrees.

 

I understand that prior to the ice age that created the ice cap trees grew on the land part of Antarctica.

[rickudon]

You cannot just compare the temperatures in past Geological eras with the current day. First, there are the Milankovitch cycles. Second, the biggest impact on global temperatures are  position of the continents, in past eras they could be far North or South of their current positions, or not even exist. Third, oceanic currents; if they distribute heat to the poles you can get a far more equitable climate globally, or if not the reverse. A hell of a lot of guesswork involved in guessing those temperatures, sometimes on just a few bits of data.

 

All we do know is that in the last 5,000 years temperatures have been fairly stable, but are now rising rapidly. The only thing which has changed are CO2  levels due to the industrial revolution and use of wood and fossil fuels. Nothing else has substantially changed. 

 

The effects of climate change are not always realised or predicted. Who would have guessed  that forest fires would become much bigger and more common even at current levels of warming, and anyone want to holiday in Florida just now? (Milton, category 5).

[still kicking]

On 10/8/2024 at 8:59 AM, koolkarl said:

Really!  Read the Koran re the future of infidels which I assume you are one. 

Read the Bible