Elon Musk's Voter Giveaway Sparks Debate: Legal or Political Maneuver?

[Red Forever]

3 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

The Democrats are the party of the billionaires.   As soon as Trump receives money from one , the Democrats start their path of destruction of that person.  Also the Democrats are the kings of dark money flowing in from every despot corner of the world.  With the DOJ in their pocket, they get away with it.  What a corrupt bunch of people supported by the uneducated in the US.  

Do you mean the uneducated in the US who the orange moron said of: "I love the poorly educated"?

[frank83628]

9 hours ago, Tug said:

It sucks for all of us when a corrupt rich guy undermines our democracy like this,is flakey in the extreme 

you mean like Zukerberg and Dorsey, when they suppressed the Biden laptop story, or google when their algorithms censor search results in favour of one side

[frank83628]

9 hours ago, dinsdale said:

And isn't it interesting that Zuck has come out exposing the Democratic free speech police during the epidemic.

and that the fbi and democrats asked him to restrict the hunter laptop story

[transam]

Just now, frank83628 said:

you mean like Zukerberg and Dorsey, when they suppressed the Biden laptop story, or google when their algorithms censor search results in favour of one side

You should provide links for your theories.....😉

[frank83628]

9 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Can you give me specific examples of how Musk is corrupt?

basically because he supports free speech and Trump, instantly means you are corrupt, racist and should be jailed and removed from society

[frank83628]

1 minute ago, transam said:

You should provide links for your theories.....😉

it's common knowledge, been reported in the media and been posted here before. just because you didnt see it doesn't i have to spend my time finding it for you.

[transam]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

it's common knowledge, been reported in the media and been posted here before. just because you didnt see it doesn't i have to spend my time finding it for you.

You should provide links, chap, not leave it to others to accept your words, which I might say are usually anti-West......

[newnative]

     It's illegal to pay someone to register to vote.  Musk is paying voters who register to vote in Pennsylvania $100 to sign his gun petition.  By requiring voter registration to participate, he is paying for voters to get registered.  Illegal.  Does he care?  Not likely.  Like Trump, he has no respect for the law.  He's trying to illegally buy the election, simple as that, by concentrating only on the swing states--everyone else doesn't matter.

    Imagine the outcry from Republicans if Taylor Swift did the same thing; announced that she would give free tickets to her Eras Tour, plus $100, to everyone in the 7 swing states who registers to vote and then signs her petition to keep abortion legal.  Neither of these, even if they weren't illegal, would pass the smell test.  They both stink to high heaven.  

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, transam said:

You should provide links, chap, not leave it to others to accept your words, which I might say are usually anti-West......

like i said above. i couldn't care less what a load of coffin dodgers think either. and yeah, anti western imperialism, well, basically the USA, do as we say or else.

 

Edited October 22 by frank83628

[frank83628]

17 minutes ago, newnative said:

     It's illegal to pay someone to register to vote.  Musk is paying voters who register to vote in Pennsylvania $100 to sign his gun petition.  By requiring voter registration to participate, he is paying for voters to get registered.  Illegal.  Does he care?  Not likely.  Like Trump, he has no respect for the law.  He's trying to illegally buy the election, simple as that, by concentrating only on the swing states--everyone else doesn't matter.

    Imagine the outcry from Republicans if Taylor Swift did the same thing; announced that she would give free tickets to her Eras Tour, plus $100, to everyone in the 7 swing states who registers to vote and then signs her petition to keep abortion legal.  Neither of these, even if they weren't illegal, would pass the smell test.  They both stink to high heaven.  

no he isn't, he is offering a 1mil prize money to random people, the only condition is that you've registered to be allowed to enter the prize draw.

[newnative]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

no he isn't, he is offering a 1mil prize money to random people, the only condition is that you've registered to be allowed to enter the prize draw.

     Not 'random people'.   Only registered voters in the 7 swing states.  That's paying for voter registrations, as it's a requirement to enter the prize drawing.  Illegal.  Even worse, in Pennsylvania he is paying $100 if you sign his gun petition.  Again, you have to be a registered voter to be paid the $100.  So, he's paying unregistered voters in PA $100 so they will register to vote and then be eligible to sign his petition.  Also illegal.   

     But, as I said before, even if it wasn't illegal, it would still be despicable that he is blatantly trying to buy the election for Trump by buying enough voters in the swing states for Trump to carry them.  Republicans are always spouting election integrity--while always actually being the ones stomping all over it

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, newnative said:

     Not 'random people'.   Only registered voters in the 7 swing states.  That's paying for voter registrations, as it's a requirement to enter the prize drawing.  Illegal.  Even worse, in Pennsylvania he is paying $100 if you sign his gun petition.  Again, you have to be a registered voter to be paid the $100.  So, he's paying unregistered voters in PA $100 so they will register to vote and then be eligible to sign his petition.  Also illegal.   

     But, as I said before, even if it wasn't illegal, it would still be despicable that he is blatantly trying to buy the election for Trump by buying enough voters in the swing states for Trump to carry them.  Republicans are always spouting election integrity--while always actually being the ones stomping all over it

I would sugggest your info is  questionable, if it were illegal it would have been stopped, it hasn't nor it is MSM headlines daily, so there is that too.

[Jingthing]

Maybe technically legal but the obvious intention is vote buying.

If Trump wins American oligarchs win as the maga fascists copy Orban and Putin to trash American democracy.

Edited October 22 by Jingthing

[mogandave]

48 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Maybe technically legal but the obvious intention is vote buying.

If Trump wins American oligarchs win as the maga fascists copy Orban and Putin to trash American democracy.

How is it vote buying? 

 

Is Harris promising black men $20k unsecured “loans” not vote buying? 

 

What about $25k grants for first time home buyers and canceling student debt? Seems luke vote buying, as is offering anything “free” 

 

At least Elon is using his own money. 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, frank83628 said:

I would sugggest your info is  questionable, if it were illegal it would have been stopped, it hasn't nor it is MSM headlines daily, so there is that too.

It takes time for the wheels of justice to turn.

[frank83628]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It takes time for the wheels of justice to turn.

Yeah right, buying votes for the us election, it would be acted on instantly if it were illegal

[thesetat2013]

On 10/22/2024 at 5:16 AM, Social Media said:

In the meantime, the White House has remained tight-lipped on the issue. When questioned during a daily press briefing about Musk’s increasingly visible role in Donald Trump’s campaign, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre repeatedly declined to offer any comments. "I have no response," she stated, refusing to engage in the growing discussion about Musk’s political involvement.

 

Of course they are tight-lipped. They will wait until elections are over to begin their legal battles attacking Trump and Musk. 

[EVENKEEL]

22 hours ago, Tug said:

I think your loyalty is misplaced but that aside I remember during 2020 the Republican state house in Georgia (I could be wrong about the particular state) made it illegal for water/shade/chairs or anything handed out to voters waiting in lines for hours and hours the last time we fired trump.now his pal is handing out a million dollars a day to one person in a swing state……sorry but that reeks big time.

State what law Musk is violating. 

[EVENKEEL]

14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He didn’t pioneer either, he bought into other people’s innovations.

Your desperation is teetering into the realm of comedy. 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/spacex-s-starship-rocket-booster-successfully-returns-to-launch-tower-s-arms-221627461691

 

Perhaps the Wright bros. should take the credit for the booster landing.

[Tug]

11 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

State what law Musk is violating. 

Ethics for sure it’s a clown show to make the poor dance for him in my opinion it’s grotesque.and btw the folks who work for musk deserve the credit for the amazing advancement in space exploration not musk hes just reaping the reward.

[WDSmart]

I'd say it's illegal. But if it's not, it should be. As a US citizen, I do not want petitions signed or candidates elected because they offered or gave money to the voters to encourage their participation.

[newnative]

8 hours ago, mogandave said:

How is it vote buying? 

 

Is Harris promising black men $20k unsecured “loans” not vote buying? 

 

What about $25k grants for first time home buyers and canceling student debt? Seems luke vote buying, as is offering anything “free” 

 

At least Elon is using his own money. 

      None of Harris's proposed programs require voter registration.  Nor are they limited to people in the 7 swing states.   Yes, Musk is 'using his own money'--to buy the election.

[Cryingdick]

16 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Musk is pioneering space travel, electric car innovator. What a loser, right??

Let's not forget he runs the most important and forefront communications provider on the planet. After that he has chip implants to help the disabled with neuralink implants. Let's admit it a few members here will need those soon.

[bendejo]

So this is what DT means when he talks about foreigners bringing over bad genes.

 

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, bendejo said:

So this is what DT means when he talks about foreigners bringing over bad genes.

 

That is so bad it is pitiful. Can you hear yourself? It isn't intelligent.

Edited October 23 by Cryingdick

[Stargeezr]

I bet Elon Musk will never give me any of his money, as I have no plans to ever buy a Tesla EV

anyway. Been a Ford owner for years.

[transam]

14 hours ago, frank83628 said:

like i said above. i couldn't care less what a load of coffin dodgers think either. and yeah, anti western imperialism, well, basically the USA, do as we say or else.

 

"Coffin dodgers", could you explain that comment....?  🤔

[Real Name Hidden]

Giuliani is having a much bigger giveaway. 😆 

[frank83628]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

"Coffin dodgers", could you explain that comment....?  🤔

self explanatory.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

self explanatory.

Try harder, or is that beyond you........?   Red bloke.......🤔