Private car blocks emergency vehicle, patient dies in Samut Prakan

[AustinRacing]

The driver should be charged with obstruction but to charge him with manslaughter or anything like that is nonsense. 

[Cabradelmar]

unconscionable

[toho]

5 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

Wishful thinking for this. 99% of Thai drivers are selfish and only see themselves as having the right of way. 

 

Although they were blocked by the driver. I find it hard to believe a minutes delay caused the patient to die as claimed in the story. I do realize that time is important in getting a patient to the hospital as fast as possible. The article fails to mention if the patient died several minutes before arriving to the hospital though. Perhaps more realistically the delay made them lose the chance to perform emergency resuscitation on the patient within the time frame needed to get the heart beating again. 

Given the law says emergency vehicles have the right of way. Criminal charges should be made against that driver and publicized to ensure the public sees the reaction to such maneuvers while driving when an emergency vehicle is approaching. 

don't try to downplay the situation. there are situations that literally every second counts,

[Bday Prang]

4 minutes ago, toho said:

don't try to downplay the situation. there are situations that literally every second counts,

indeed there are , but somchai rushing home to eat his somtam is not one of them ,  Of course it should be an offence to obstruct an ambulance and  the fact that  this needs legislation ensure compliance is a sad reflection of society,     However it should also be an offence for an ambulance driver to display flashing lights and sirens when not involved in an emergency,  (some)  people would then be more inclined to give way by default every time 

[thesetat2013]

24 minutes ago, toho said:

don't try to downplay the situation. there are situations that literally every second counts,

Downplay? I did not downplay anything.. I even went on to say the person who did it should face prosecution and publicly shamed. Do you not understand English? Or did you only read a little to make such a ridiculous comment

 

[aussienam]

Not sure what the criminal code is here, but perhaps a case for manslaughter (reckless manslaughter - reckless indifference) in that it would be reasonable to assume a patient was on board requiring life saving treatment, deliberately prevented that treatment by the other driver who didn't care. Of course an autopsy would need to confirm whether or not the patient had a fighting chance.

[madone]

14 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Tragic incident. Happens every day somewhere in Thailand

can you support that vacuous, meaningless, and empty statement?

Doesnt even need to be evidence of it happening every day, Show me evidence of someone blocking an ambulance once a week for 3 weeks running. 

[billd766]

5 hours ago, HuaHinHim said:

I’m no lawyer and agree that people that do this should face some form of punishment but a 1 minute delay seems a bit of a stretch to lay the patients death on the driver. 

And if it were your parent who died before the ambulance reached them, that would be OK with you?

[billd766]

Out here in rural Kamphaeng Phet I ALWAYS put on my 4 way flashers and pull over if any emergency vehicle is coming towards me or is behind me with 2s and blues on. All it costs me is a little bit of time and it may save someone's life.

[terje johnsen]

Many cars not move for hospital cars as they use the lights and siren Even if they are not out for rescue. Many ambulances use light and siren to get quicker past traffic Even they only go to lunch or go home that resultat in that thais stop respect them. There has to be a big change in rules to use light and sirens to gain respect again. But its No exuse for the driver of the honda he should let te ambulance go and i think he get the punishment he deserve. 

[ravip]

8 hours ago, Gobbler said:

Put ramming equipment on all ambulances.  Ram, anyone blocking on purpose.  Push them aside over a cliff; it doesn't matter.

Are those things in operation anywhere on this planet?

 

[ravip]

7 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

Wishful thinking for this. 99% of Thai drivers are selfish and only see themselves as having the right of way. 

 

Although they were blocked by the driver. I find it hard to believe a minutes delay caused the patient to die as claimed in the story. I do realize that time is important in getting a patient to the hospital as fast as possible. The article fails to mention if the patient died several minutes before arriving to the hospital though. Perhaps more realistically the delay made them lose the chance to perform emergency resuscitation on the patient within the time frame needed to get the heart beating again. 

Given the law says emergency vehicles have the right of way. Criminal charges should be made against that driver and publicized to ensure the public sees the reaction to such maneuvers while driving when an emergency vehicle is approaching. 

" 99% of Thai drivers are selfish"

 

How long was the duration of your study?

How many millions of Thai drivers did you sample?

Please show us the statistics - if not, it's ALL BS as many other accusations.

 

 

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, madone said:

can you support that vacuous, meaningless, and empty statement?

Doesnt even need to be evidence of it happening every day, Show me evidence of someone blocking an ambulance once a week for 3 weeks running. 

Just check AN for the last few weeks. Reading is an advantage, you know 

[harryviking]

There are some pretty sick and retarded people out there behind a wheel. Make sure they punish these punks severely! Jailtime and end of driving licenses plus a hefty fine!! I think they should also include involuntary manslaughter!!??

[madone]

31 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Just check AN for the last few weeks. Reading is an advantage, you know 

so you cant do it?

 

[mran66]

Must have been a foreigner driving the car.

[Liverpool Lou]

9 hours ago, Gobbler said:

It's manslaughter or something close. Try them and then put them in chains. 

 

B0llocks.

[Liverpool Lou]

9 hours ago, doublezero said:

In Europe and other countries with more civilized driving culture the driver of the Honda would have lost his driving licence right on the spot and would have faced a trial resulting in several years imprisonment.

Nonsense.   Which country are you claiming revokes licences on the spot and imposes several years imprisonment for that traffic offence?

[PETERTHEEATER]

7 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

The article states that the ambulance was on its way to pick up the patient, so that 60 seconds of receiving no medical attention may have been crucial.

The article also states:

Nakhon Rattanaprapasala, part of the rescue team, recounted their experience as they rushed the patient to the hospital.

Confusing. But, whether they were going to the patient or already had the patient on board any delay could be fatal.

[Liverpool Lou]

9 hours ago, AAArdvark said:

Why should the family have to file a complaint? Surely it is a criminal matter. 

It's a traffic offence.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, jvs said:

So much for some people using the stupid argument that sometimes the ambulances are using lights and sirens when there is no patient inside.

Apparently, there was no patient in the ambulance in question in this thread...

"Unfortunately, by the time they reached the patient, it was too late".

Edited 1 hour ago by Liverpool Lou

[jvs]

11 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Apparently, there was no patient in the ambulance in question in this thread...

"Unfortunately, by the time they reached the patient, it was too late".

Yes i know,it said so in the OP.

[newbee2022]

48 minutes ago, madone said:

so you cant do it?

 

Are you crazy?? I should do the work for you?? 😂😂😂.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, ujayujay said:

Blocking an ambulance is intentional murder and should be punished as such.

No, it is not "intentional murder".  

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Baba Naba said:

Why must the offended press charges? Does not the "State" have an obligation to press charges???

No, it does not.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

10 hours ago, doublezero said:

In Europe and other countries with more civilized driving culture the driver of the Honda would have lost his driving licence right on the spot and would have faced a trial resulting in several years imprisonment. In Thailand he probably gets away with a 2000 Bath fine.

As far as I an aware, in the UK at least nobody can lose their licence "on the spot" that option along with any other punishment would be decided  by the courts , except in the case of a fixed penalty, but that would not include disqualification

Well said.

[SAFETY FIRST]

21 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Honda car not only failed to yield but also occasionally braked abruptly in front of the rescue vehicle, forcing the team to manoeuvre around it. 

Please have the driver checked for mental illness 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

indeed there are , but somchai rushing home to eat his somtam is not one of them ,  Of course it should be an offence to obstruct an ambulance and  the fact that  this needs legislation ensure compliance is a sad reflection of society,     However it should also be an offence for an ambulance driver to display flashing lights and sirens when not involved in an emergency,  (some)  people would then be more inclined to give way by default every time 

Hear, hear.

[Liverpool Lou]

29 minutes ago, jvs said:

41 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Apparently, there was no patient in the ambulance in question in this thread...

"Unfortunately, by the time they reached the patient, it was too late".

Yes i know,it said so in the OP.

Yes, I know, that's where I read it.

[OldBird]

10 hours ago, doublezero said:

In Europe and other countries with more civilized driving culture the driver of the Honda would have lost his driving licence right on the spot and would have faced a trial resulting in several years imprisonment. In Thailand he probably gets away with a 2000 Bath fine.

In the US many states consider this murder or manslaughter at the very least and you will be tied as either or.