10 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Which half would you guess?

 

 

Too close to call.

I think if the Democrats win and can control the army and police then against the heavily armed republicans we would see a good fight.

if Trump gets up and controls the armed forces then the democrats will be out gunned.

37 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

There won't be riots. They remember Jan 6 and don't want to go to jail for Trump.

 

Yes indeed.  If the exiting president had pardoned the 1/6 demonstrators it would be a very different.  If there is one thing that straightens out an idealist's perspective (most of the time ) it is sitting in a jail cell.

His calling out for demonstrators during his NYC trials didn't go well, maybe a dozen or so turned up but left their mojo at home.

 

Nearly every thing he comes up with involves him being victimized, cheated, etc.  I'm sure there must be some good ol' boys (and gals) out there thinking "man, what is he complaining about now?"  Sound wimpy, no?

 

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Too close to call.

I think if the Democrats win and can control the army and police then against the heavily armed republicans we would see a good fight.

if Trump gets up and controls the armed forces then the democrats will be out gunned.

 

The. dems don't have anywhere near as many guns as maga and certainly not kid killer guns.

2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Too close to call.

I think if the Democrats win and can control the army and police then against the heavily armed republicans we would see a good fight.

if Trump gets up and controls the armed forces then the democrats will be out gunned.

 

 

Certainly, to my mind, a very narrow win by the Dems will result in the worst situation re: violence.....

 

Trump will rage about fraud, the election being stolen etc......and having such staggeringly gullible followers, they will believe every word (sorry, lie).

 

Could be very interesting, if interesting is an appropriate word.

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

What is it about modern America that they can not just accept the result of an election?

 

What is it with AN trolls that they already before the election has started, they know it will not be accepted by either party, and riots will start

52 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

What is it about modern America that they can not just accept the result of an election?

 

I question whether this is a historically accurate observation. Widespread unwillingness to accept election results is a relatively recent phenomena, and political assassinations, almost always committed by lone wolves, should not be generally attributed to the American people or culture.

 

Regarding predictions of violence following tomorrow's election, I am sure you are not alone in feeling apprehensive. From the right, I think attacks on election infrastructure, mass shootings or a car bombing or two are most likely. From the left, there may be, as you predict, pockets of rioting in democratic strongholds. Longer term, the risk of political assassination is very elevated no matter who wins the election.

 

If Trump wins, I predict you may see capital flight out of the US and surging interest rates, as foreign countries become more reluctant to hold US debt because (1) the US reputation as a beacon of democracy and a safe harbor for capital will be diminished; (2) fear of trade wars, (3) attempts by foreign countries to thwart tariffs by driving up borrowing costs for US debt with the goal of making tariffs politically unpalatable  to American consumers, and (4) a collapse in confidence that the US government has the political will to manage its fiscal deficit and national debt.

3 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

What is it with AN trolls that they already before the election has started, they know it will not be accepted by either party, and riots will start

 

Oooo...now that's a tricky one......what might lead them to think that....mmmmmm!

1 minute ago, Gecko123 said:

 

I question whether this is a historically accurate observation. Widespread unwillingness to accept election results is a relatively recent phenomena, and political assassinations, almost always committed by lone wolves, should not be generally attributed to the American people or culture.

 

Regarding predictions of violence following tomorrow's election, I am sure you are not alone in feeling apprehensive. From the right, I think attacks on election infrastructure, mass shootings or a car bombing or two are most likely. From the left, there may be, as you predict, pockets of rioting in democratic strongholds. Longer term, the risk of political assassination is very elevated no matter who wins the election.

 

If Trump wins, I predict you may see capital flight out of the US and surging interest rates, as foreign countries become more reluctant to hold US debt because (1) the US reputation as a beacon of democracy and a safe harbor for capital will be diminished; (2) fear of trade wars, (3) attempts by foreign countries to thwart tariffs by driving up borrowing costs for US debt with the goal of making tariffs politically unpalatable  to American consumers, and (4) a collapse in confidence that the US government has the political will to manage its fiscal deficit and national debt.

 

WOW! Spot on.

7 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

What is it with AN trolls that they already before the election has started, they know it will not be accepted by either party, and riots will start

They probably know that because of what happened in the last two elections and Americans are known to have frail egos. And not accepting coming second.

 

Trump is the world wide poster boy for frail egos. A dummy spitter.

On the other side we have over sensitive democrats. 
They are all stark raving mad.

 

Like putting a ADHD kid in with an autistic kid in the same room with one toy. 
It ain’t going to be peaceful.

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Oooo...now that's a tricky one......what might lead them to think that....mmmmmm!

 

Careful, the "either party" is a dog whistle. There's never been any discussion among left wing groups about rioting based on the results of an election. The militant groups in the USA are predominantly white supremacists. Don't believe me? Ask the FBI.

25 minutes ago, proton said:

 

But we put protesters in jail for years for holding up a sign or shouting at police!

 

 

Could what is written on the posters or what they were shouting at the police have any bearing on their arrest and subsequent sentences.......asking for a friend.

3 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Careful, the "either party" is a dog whistle. There's never been any discussion among left wing groups about rioting based on the results of an election. The militant groups in the USA are predominantly white supremacists. Don't believe me? Ask the FBI.

 

I have absolutely no doubt who will be rioting........(when Trump loses).

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

Because the root of all evil in the past 20 years is the progressive leftist agenda and ideology.

 

 

You are blaming the invasion of Iraq on progressive leftists?

 

Or are you saying that Obamacare is evil.

 

Or are you just drunk posting?

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

I have absolutely no doubt who will be rioting........(when Trump loses).

Nah, I don't see the Trump minions rioting after the election, because it won't be called right away. Then, the various counties and states have to certify.

 

It's a drawn out process.

 

 

Polling averages show slight national and swing-state leads fluctuating between the candidates, with Harris performing better in urban areas while Trump sees strong support in rural regions......and therein lies a tale.

13 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Grab the popcorn.

with all the guns over there this could end up being a significant population cull.

Yeah, the question would be what is best.

 

The Antifa types usually make cartoon shields with garbage cans. Although an SS109 would easily penetrate such childish armor, it will probably deflect and be less effective. 55 grainers might blow up. So while an M4 or a Tavor or AUG would be good because of its light weight (Pro Tip: make sure your gas key is properly staked and use a weapon with a 1/9 twist to better stabilize the bullets), I would recommend a 7.62x51 like a Congo style FAL or an M1A equipped with an Eotech or other modern, 0 magnification optic.

 

For those of you on a budget or in a fascist leaning jurisdiction, a nice lever action in any pistol cartridge would be OK.

 

To reduce the risk of overpenetration, I would see if Hornady makes a TAP round in your chosen cartridge.

 

Remember, in order to be legal, you are going to have to absorb some punishment. Make sure to check your local laws. For example, in NY, you can use deadly physical force to stop an arson or an attempted arson. Google your local laws as to when you can use deadly physical force. 

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Yeah, the question would be what is best.

 

The Antifa types usually make cartoon shields with garbage cans. Although an SS109 would easily penetrate such childish armor, it will probably deflect and be less effective. 55 grainers might blow up. So while an M4 or a Tavor or AUG would be good because of its light weight (Pro Tip: make sure your gas key is properly staked and use a weapon with a 1/9 twist to better stabilize the bullets), I would recommend a 7.62x51 like a Congo style FAL or an M1A equipped with an Eotech or other modern, 0 magnification optic.

 

For those of you on a budget or in a fascist leaning jurisdiction, a nice lever action in any pistol cartridge would be OK.

 

To reduce the risk of overpenetration, I would see if Hornady makes a TAP round in your chosen cartridge.

 

Remember, in order to be legal, you are going to have to absorb some punishment. Make sure to check your local laws. For example, in NY, you can use deadly physical force to stop an arson or an attempted arson. Google your local laws as to when you can use deadly physical force. 

 

This time the national guard won't be hiding under a rock.

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

I am predicting that half of the US voters will not want to accept the election result and rioting should kick off by Thursday and peak on the weekend.

Shops will be looted, personal property vandalised, cars will be set on fire. 
The style of the riots will depend on who wins.
 

What is it about modern America that they can not just accept the result of an election?

You're right.  Those democrats are very violent. 

42 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Grab the popcorn.

with all the guns over there this could end up being a significant population cull.

 

This is where the real cull will take place.......have ever read anything so mental in all your life.....???

 

 

Trump indicates he is open to RFK Jr’s proposal to ban vaccines https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/04/election-trump-rfk-jr-vaccines-fluoride?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

 

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

I have absolutely no doubt who will be rioting........(when Trump loses).

IF  trump loses,   according to the polls it is going to be very  close   I certainly would not be putting money on either of them

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

To reduce the risk of overpenetration, I would see if Hornady makes a TAP round in your chosen cartridge.

To reduce the risk of "overpenetration" my mrs prefers to place  a "doughnut" on my cartridge ( sometimes 2)

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

IF  trump loses,   according to the polls it is going to be very  close   I certainly would not be putting money on either of them

 

 

No same here......and yet there were reports of bets as big as $50 million x 4 going in for Trump.....I suppose if you are a billionaire....what's 50 million????

1 hour ago, NickyLouie said:

 

Unfortunately the liberal cities are boarding up their properties , these are hotbeds of lowlife democrats 

 

https://www.abc3340.com/news/nation-world/us-businesses-board-up-ahead-of-possible-election-day-unrest-presidential-election-november-5th-2024-washington-dc-portland-oregon-luzerne-county-pennsylvania-wilkes-barre-politics 

Yeah but the left are the ones that riot, its the trumpettes that do. Check your facts 

17 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

This time the national guard won't be hiding under a rock.

Oh Im sure that Tim will order them out in Minneapolis against antifa thugs

4 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Yeah but the left are the ones that riot, its the trumpettes that do. Check your facts 

Got a riot you can point to by the Trumpettes? Other than your mantra Jan 6

23 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Nah, I don't see the Trump minions rioting after the election, because it won't be called right away. Then, the various counties and states have to certify.

 

It's a drawn out process.

Landed in Texas then?

16 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

No same here......and yet there were reports of bets as big as $50 million x 4 going in for Trump.....I suppose if you are a billionaire....what's 50 million????

True enough,   but as they say the rich get rich by living like the poor , and the poor stay poor due to trying to live like the rich. I think most billionaires therefore would be very concerned about losing  $50 million

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-lottery-philadelphia-winners-b2641205.html

 

 

Maybe doing this helps tickle the odds in a certain  billionaire's favour ?

 

 

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got a riot you can point to by the Trumpettes? Other than your mantra Jan 6

No need,  Jan 6th shows clearly

it was Republicans rioting. You never have seen the dems call for blocking a vote confirmation or rioting. If so post something.

43 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

I question whether this is a historically accurate observation. Widespread unwillingness to accept election results is a relatively recent phenomena, and political assassinations, almost always committed by lone wolves, should not be generally attributed to the American people or culture.

 

Lincolns and JFK's assassinations were conspiracies, not lone wolves. 1963 was a coup against an elected President.