UK Pensioners in Thailand Face New Scrutiny Over Pension Fraud

[James9999]

5 hours ago, transam said:

I, for one, don't care if anyone is on the pension fraud thingy, I looking out for others with info is my aim.

YOU, haven't watched any of the vids, but good lucky opening your new, must have, stand alone, DWP bank account in the UK to RECEIVE your pension...........😱

Right, where does pension fraud come against the black economy and people paid in cash, unemployment benefit paid to people working, child benefit fraud, banking scams, free handouts and the cost of housing illegal immigrants, the aid budget funding space programmes and corruption. oh and tech companies not paying their fare share. That is what bothers me.

[bradiston]

7 minutes ago, James9999 said:

Not bothered about people claiming unemployment benefit and working, builders who demand to be paid in cash, benefit claimants who aren't even in the country, child benefit payments for children not even in the country, Then the biggest scum bag cheats of the lot, the tech companies with their off shore tax havens. No you go after pensioner living overseas and getting the annual increment. Must be all of 0.01% and all the scum bag cheats screwing over the UK. The biggest of sharing the same name as a South American river or Thai retail coffee chain. Websightes, for God's sake learn some English.

 

£6 billion in overpaid UC.

 

"The Universal Credit overpayment rate was 12.4% (£6,460m) in FYE 2024, compared with 12.7% (£5,500m) in FYE 2023."

 

The DWP underpaid state pensions as follows:

 

"The State Pension underpayment rate was 0.4% (£470m) in FYE 2024, compared with 0.5% (£580m) in FYE 2023."

 

£470 million!

 

See also

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-2023-to-2024-estimates#:~:text=The main stories from the,due to fraud and error

 

And

 

https://www.gov.uk/benefit-fraud#:~:text=Your benefits can be reduced,are called 'sanctionable benefits'.

 

State pension is NOT sanctionable, neither can it be reduced or stopped. I wish people would be bothered to do a little reading before posting codswallop on this forum.

 

It goes on.

[transam]

1 minute ago, James9999 said:

Right, where does pension fraud come against the black economy and people paid in cash, unemployment benefit paid to people working, child benefit fraud, banking scams, free handouts and the cost of housing illegal immigrants, the aid budget funding space programmes and corruption. oh and tech companies not paying their fare share. That is what bothers me.

Nothing to do with YOUR benefit payment................😋

[James9999]

4 hours ago, baansgr said:

It's nothing new, they have always been able to look at any ones bank account if they have suspicion of money laundering/ benefit fraud etc. That will always be the case, what is different is the ease of obtaining such information from banks. Pretty much ado about nothing, a mountain and mole hill. Lots of jealous scaremongering going on but funny to read the replies from ex SAS and police inspetors

From the UK Government

"The Home Office estimates that Serious and organised crime costs the UK at least £24 billion annually. The NCA estimates that the amount of money laundered in the UK could be between £36 billion and £90 billion.

Factsheet – The Criminal Finances Bill - GOV.UK"

The money launderers must be rubbing their hands now that the focus of attention is going to be pension fraudsters.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, James9999 said:

From the UK Government

"The Home Office estimates that Serious and organised crime costs the UK at least £24 billion annually. The NCA estimates that the amount of money laundered in the UK could be between £36 billion and £90 billion.

Factsheet – The Criminal Finances Bill - GOV.UK"

The money launderers must be rubbing their hands now that the focus of attention is going to be pension fraudsters.

I don't think there is one bloke sitting at a desk sorting both..........🤭

[Baht Simpson]

25 minutes ago, bradiston said:

 

State pension is NOT sanctionable, neither can it be reduced or stopped.

That is true. But it also should be noted that they can reduce or stop other benefits that are sanctionable to recover monies lost through State Pension fraud, although this is obviously less relevant for non-residents.

 

They also have the option to recover money via the courts or by penalty. Again this is less likely because the maximum penalty is GBP 5,000 and there would be substantial costs going through the courts.

Edited 2 hours ago by Baht Simpson

[hotandsticky]

3 hours ago, transam said:

Yeh, riiiight....................🤣

 

But, you maybe right, but the vast majority of numpties would have listened to numpties, the no facts numpty brigade, and get stuffed, big time.........🤕

Though I am sure you will tell us how to get around the latest DWP thingies, eh, and past fraudulent thieving.........🤭

 

 

 

Your paranoia is affecting the quality of your posts...

[James9999]

36 minutes ago, delgarcon said:

Yeah, all the Brits who moves to Thailand or lives here, knows the rules. Fair or unfair, has nothing to do with it. If they make a choice to move to Thailand, they will also make a choice to go by the rules.

Rules can be wrong and should be changed, The rules allowed 72 people to be burned to death in Grenfell Tower. Should the rules about cladding also not be changed. "The Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government's best estimate is that the programme to remove dangerous cladding from towers over 11 metres tall will cost an estimated £16.6bn – £5.1bn of that from the taxpayer – and so far only a third of the blocks that have been identified have been completed" So there is another £5.1 billion of taxpayers money p155ed up against the wall. HS2 another black hole that taxpayers money is being p1ssed into. Off topic but just balancing up where the Government is squandering money.

[delgarcon]

3 minutes ago, James9999 said:

Rules can be wrong and should be changed, The rules allowed 72 people to be burned to death in Grenfell Tower. Should the rules about cladding also not be changed. "The Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government's best estimate is that the programme to remove dangerous cladding from towers over 11 metres tall will cost an estimated £16.6bn – £5.1bn of that from the taxpayer – and so far only a third of the blocks that have been identified have been completed" So there is another £5.1 billion of taxpayers money p155ed up against the wall. HS2 another black hole that taxpayers money is being p1ssed into. Off topic but just balancing up where the Government is squandering money.

I didnt write this James, it was Gottfrid.

[bradiston]

58 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

That is true. But it also should be noted that they can reduce or stop other benefits that are sanctionable to recover monies lost through State Pension fraud, although this is obviously less relevant for non-residents.

 

They also have the option to recover money via the courts or by penalty. Again this is less likely because the maximum penalty is GBP 5,000 and there would be substantial costs going through the courts.

Well, I'm not sure how they could do what you say in your first paragraph, and I'm not sure I believe it. You mean for instance reduce your housing benefit because they say you were overpaid state pension due to fraud?

 

And I thought not sanctionable meant you couldn't be fined or penalised in any way?

 

Way out of my ken.

[3NUMBAS]

some claimants maybe dead and kept on ice and still claiming