I just came back from the parole office I have to report to for the crime I committed.

[CallumWK]

1 hour ago, Alldar said:

What is your immigration office? In Jomtien this is not true unfortunately. I have multiple entry visa and last time they clearly told me I need new TM30 every time I enter the country. They even threatened with fine if I don't do it next time.

 

My office is Jomtien, and I have never been asked for a tm30. My last reentry was September last year, and I had a new extension and new passport in March this year, so I had to visit in person.

Next 90 day report I also had to do in person, for reason I explained in another post, so if I needed a tm30 they sure would have told and fined me on one of those occasions.

I do have a registered address, with yellow tabien baan, so not sure if that makes a difference

[Alldar]

11 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

My office is Jomtien, and I have never been asked for a tm30. My last reentry was September last year, and I had a new extension and new passport in March this year, so I had to visit in person.

Next 90 day report I also had to do in person, for reason I explained in another post, so if I needed a tm30 they sure would have told and fined me on one of those occasions.

I do have a registered address, with yellow tabien baan, so not sure if that makes a difference

Your story is hard to believe, Jomtien requires copy of TM30 for everything you do at immigration. And they do certainly ask for the recent TM30 and not following the immigration law. Many people reported the same. You can check this thread: 

 

[NoshowJones]

19 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Do it online!

Good idea but even that is not without it's problems. This going to the parole office every 90 days is just ridiculous. Is there any other country in the world does this?

If I knew that I would ever have to report to anyone I would never have stayed in this Banana Republic of Thailand.

[NoshowJones]

19 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

So you can cancel your need for so called parole anytime you want, your choice!

Really?? I take it you mean by paying an agent.

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

Friend of mine pops across into Laos for the day to do some shopping,

Why on Earth would anyone do that?

[NoshowJones]

15 hours ago, Screaming said:

Just once, only 2000 Baht fine. I have been doing this for over 10 years now. I never waste my time with 90 reports.

That is a good idea, but you are still reporting to your IO once a year. I just do not like the idea of reporting to anyone as there is no one in this world better than me.

[scubascuba3]

3 hours ago, JimTripper said:

Not always, you need to go in person sometimes.

Like i said already, fix it

[bbi1]

36 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

My office is Jomtien, and I have never been asked for a tm30. My last reentry was September last year, and I had a new extension and new passport in March this year, so I had to visit in person.

I call this a Bullshido post, same as Steven Seagal's Bullshido martial arts demonstrations.

 

It's impossible to get an extension or do anything else at Jomtien without having a TM30. It's one of the required photocopy documents you MUST provide.

[CallumWK]

26 minutes ago, Alldar said:

Your story is hard to believe, Jomtien requires copy of TM30 for everything you do at immigration. And they do certainly ask for the recent TM30 and not following the immigration law. Many people reported the same. You can check this thread: 

 

 

OK, thanks for calling me a liar.

[CallumWK]

3 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

I call this a Bullshido post, same as Steven Seagal's Bullshido martial arts demonstrations.

 

It's impossible to get an extension or do anything else at Jomtien without having a TM30. It's one of the required photocopy documents you MUST provide.

 

I can't fix stupid.

 

I have my own yellow tabien baan, and that is the copy I provide. You think I should issue myself a tm30?

[NoshowJones]

16 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

I don't understand. 

 

I left Texas, and now live in Thailand.  I spend about half a day in total, a full day in a bad year, handling immigration formalities. 

 

Why wouldn't Americans like it?

 

After all, that's what we signed up for when we chose to expatriate to a foreign land.  We knew the rules beforehand.

That is not true, I never knew anything about this parole nonsense until I was here a few months. 

Besides when I first came here no one ever had to do 90 day reporting unless they did the 400,000 or 800,000 and that was their choice.

All one had to do was go to the border every 90 days, no bothering about any immigration or agents then.

[Ralf001]

33 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

Really?? I take it you mean by paying an agent.

I  think he means go home.

[CallumWK]

I notice a lot of people who think they know everything better.

 

 

https://www.lorenz-partners.com/90-days-reporting-for-foreigners-in-thailand/

 

[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, Alldar said:

What is your immigration office? In Jomtien this is not true unfortunately. I have multiple entry visa and last time they clearly told me I need new TM30 every time I enter the country. They even threatened with fine if I don't do it next time.

I was told the exact opposite at my IO with my wife as a witness, and so it has been proved every time since then.

Even different officers in the same IO will sometimes tell you different. This is Thailand.

[Jumbo1968]

Grumpy old foreign men in the supermarkets who get annoyed when the cashier doesn’t understand what they are saying, they forget whilst they might speak English they don’t understand accents probably the same men who rush round nearly taking your legs away with  their trolley.

[Pattaya57]

21 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

I notice a lot of people who think they know everything better

 

https://www.lorenz-partners.com/90-days-reporting-for-foreigners-in-thailand/

 

That's from some random law firm and I've never heard a category of "if caught leaving Thailand" as IO's don't check 90 day status on exit (that's more of an overstay issue)

 

I'd rather go by the actual TM47  reporting site which says the following

 

Edited Tuesday at 06:03 AM by Pattaya57

[CallumWK]

3 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

That's from some random law firm and I've never heard a category of "if caught leaving Thailand" as IO's don't check 90 day status on exit (that's more of an overstay issue)

 

I'd rather go by the actual TM47  reporting site which says the following

 

 

And this is from Thai immigration.

 

note

Notification of residence in the case of an alien staying over 90 days is not a request to stay in the Kingdom.
Any alien who stays over 90 days and does not notify an official of his residence or does so later than the prescribed time limit must report in person and pay a fine of 2,000 baht. Or if an alien is arrested in any case, a fine of 5,000 baht must be paid.

 

http://uttaradit.immigration.go.th/en/notification-of-staying-in-the-kingdom-for-more-than-90-days/

[edwardflory]

" I do have a registered address, with yellow tabien baan, so not sure if that makes a difference "

 

I also have a YELLOW HOUSE BOOK, and am still REQUIRED to have a CURRENT TM-30 and TM-47

 

Having delt with Jontiem for 2+ years in the past - based on WHAT I had to provide,  I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe, that a TM-30 is not REQUIRED paperwork for processing ANY "extension of stay", "COR" or "TM-47"

 

Read the IMMIGRATION ACT and revisions, pay particular attention to sections 4 and 38. 

AND AS ALWAYS. EVERYTHING, depends on LOCAL IO POLICY

 

Having said the above, many a wife ( mine included when she was a GF and I moved into her condo  ) GF, and some Landlords have NO clue WHAT a TM-30 is OR that they should file one for you.

Edited Tuesday at 06:40 AM by edwardflory
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[NoDisplayName]

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

 

I can't fix stupid.

 

I have my own yellow tabien baan, and that is the copy I provide. You think I should issue myself a tm30?

 

Depends on the office.

Korat don't wanna see my old yeller.

They want my wife to get a new TM-30 receipt using her blue house book every year.

[wwest5829]

21 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Was it a day out for you? some people prefer that to 5 minutes online

It is true for me in Chiang Mai. Easy, fast stop at the Drive Up Window and then off to the Mall.

[CallumWK]

1 hour ago, edwardflory said:

I also have a YELLOW HOUSE BOOK, and am still REQUIRED to have a CURRENT TM-30 and TM-47

 

 

This year was my 16th extension, and I can't recall when was the last time I filed a TM30. I don't even know how it looks like, but most likely I filed one when I moved into this address 12 years ago.

[ChaiyaTH]

I don't mind visiting immigration or waiting 1-2 hours at all, I just mind to be always uncertain of the next visit and officer I need to deal with as of ever changing requirements, which then cause further delays and just a general unwelcome and uncertain feeling. I never did 90 day reportings, I did have to pay 1.5-2K for that twice.

 

Anyway nowadays I just pay the agent to pre-sort and have it approved by the time I come to just take a photo and return my passport back. In and out in 10-15 minutes max usually. Worth the few K it costs big time.

Edited Tuesday at 07:44 AM by ChaiyaTH

[Confuscious]

An other AseanNow member who has no other life as posting useless threads.
90 days reporting exists almost everywhere.
Go to any EU country without being a resident and you need to do the  90-days report/border run as well.
If you are tired of the 90-days report, there is an easy way out: GO HOME!!!!!

[GypsyT]

2 hours ago, Confuscious said:

Go to any EU country without being a resident and you need to do the  90-days report/border run as well.

Show me EU law that says so!

There ain't one.

 

[Confuscious]

2 hours ago, GypsyT said:

Show me EU law that says so!

There ain't one.

 

What is the EU 90 day rule?

The 90/180-day rule states that any foreign national who enters the Schengen zone (any country within the area) can stay for up to 90 days within any 180 days. At first glance, it seems a very simple rule, but it's often misunderstood, and many people overstay it, resulting in them facing penalties.

https://schengencalculator.net/90-180-day-rule/#:~:text=The 90%2F180-day rule,resulting in them facing penalties.

[freedomnow]

13 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

It changed during last upgrade and it's annoying. It used to go to first unread post which makes sense, now it goes to last post and you have to figure out which post you're up to.

 

Anyway, you can change it in settings so I changed mine back to view first unread 

 

 

Thanks, I found it...crazy they set that site-wide for members....super annoying.

[GypsyT]

1 hour ago, Confuscious said:

What is the EU 90 day rule?

The 90/180-day rule states that any foreign national who enters the Schengen zone (any country within the area) can stay for up to 90 days within any 180 days. At first glance, it seems a very simple rule, but it's often misunderstood, and many people overstay it, resulting in them facing penalties.

Only idiots don't understand;

It's a VISA for certain days. Clearly marked when to get the hell outta Dodge.

No reporting - just drag your S out. Period.

 

[jacko45k]

21 hours ago, JimTripper said:

You need a new tm30 also.

Yes, I hear that...when the prior information was if one returned to the same address, it was not required. They really are tiresome with their inconsistencies'. 

[kinyara]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Yes, I hear that...when the prior information was if one returned to the same address, it was not required. They really are tiresome with their inconsistencies'. 

 

I didn't require an updated one when I did my 90 day report the other week in Jomtien, exactly as I was advised by them in person prior to my overseas trip. Non O retirement returning to my same owned condo address. Copy of existing pre trip TM30 provided, no issue 

 

 

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, kinyara said:

 

I didn't require an updated one when I did my 90 day report the other week in Jomtien, exactly as I was advised by them in person prior to my overseas trip. Non O retirement returning to my same owned condo address. Copy of existing pre trip TM30 provided, no issue 

 

 

Well thanks for that feedback. But I got a different answer from someone on retirement extension who also returned home after a short trip to a nearby country....  oh well!

 

And how long ago is it now  since the rumour that 90 day address reports would no longer be needed?

Edited yesterday at 01:14 AM by jacko45k