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3 hours ago, chiang mai said:

Plus at what point in the year is that determined, theoretically, they may not be known for certain until the last week of December, in some cases. Perhaps this is merely the establishing the CRS baseline?

 

As I said, This is establishing the parameters for individuals under CRS.

 

People are inventing excuses already

 

15 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

My defense to CRS,

I'm sorry, did I make a mistake filling in your form, please excuse my old age, poor eyesight and developing dementia!

 

My defense to DWP,

I'm in Thailand, are you sure I thought this was Brighton!

 

 

It could of course be trolling for effect, but there will certainly be some UK State Pensioners resident in Thailand that are sweating profusely.

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On 11/26/2024 at 7:41 PM, MangoKorat said:

The question many may pose is exactly who is the criminal - those who don't notify the UK authorities they are living abroad or the UK Government for refusing to allow such people to receive their pension increases?

That is a remarkably simple question to answer.

 

The law is remarkably clear.

You are required to notify the pension office if you do not live in the U.K. it is an offence not to inform HMDWP (this is a crime)

If you are not resident in the U.K. you do not receive state pension increases

A few countries have treaties that override this.

 

If you do not like the law then do something about it, complaining in an overseas forum is a remarkably ineffective,

probably useless action 

 

On 11/26/2024 at 7:41 PM, MangoKorat said:

I would also point  out that whilst people like us are aware of this pension freezing - that's because we are on forums like this. When I talk to people here is the UK, they have no idea that their pensions may be frozen if they move abroad.

 Depending on the people you talk to the vast majority of them have no interest in things that don’t directly effect them, many don’t know about things that do, or could effect them, this is despite most information being made as easy as it is possible.

 

On 11/26/2024 at 7:41 PM, MangoKorat said:

There is supposed to be some sort of social security arrangement with countries where you can move to without your pension being frozen - The Philippenes for example. Do you believe that?  Have you ever heard of any UK retirees in The Philippenes receiving free hospital treatment? Genuine question.

You do not seem to understand that the state pension has no direct connection to the National Health Service.

I know that the Philippines has an agreement on state pensions. I have no idea if the NHS has any reciprocal agreement with them.

 

My knowledge of the Philippines is restricted to the fact that the diving there has the largest numbers of marine species in the world (FWIW Normoxic Trimix & MSDT max depth 72 metres ) and is one of the most interesting and can be extremely challenging. That along with some general knowledge of a very few places puts into a category of places that I am unlikely to want to visit until I need to become non tax resident in Thailand.

 

You keep banging on about healthcare as if it is linked directly to pensions and as if you should somehow have better treatment than the native population. Do you actually live in Thailand? Would getting the exact same 30฿ treatment be something you would want? As that would be what you would get if Thailand were linked to the U.K. healthcare system the Thai public hospital waiting lists may possibly be better than the NHS but probably not., the waiting conditions are certainly very different.

 

TLDR HMDWP is not the NHS different agreements exist, different conditions apply.

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Posted
3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

You signed a 'blank' form?

 

Interesting (if you did).

It’s the self-certification form from the email.

 

That’s just how bureaucracies work here. If you’ve dealt with Thai financial institutions, you’ll know they like to give you a blank form and then fill in the Thai parts themselves.

 

It’s as informal as most processes you’ll come across here. falangs like us can only trust them and go along with it. Unless you plan to close your account or leave, there’s not much else can do.

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

 

As I said, This is establishing the parameters for individuals under CRS.

 

People are inventing excuses already

 

 

 

It could of course be trolling for effect, but there will certainly be some UK State Pensioners resident in Thailand that are sweating profusely.

It's trolling, by the usual disruptors.

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