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1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Crazy antivaxxers enjoying their fourth "winter of severe illness and death" :coffee1:

 

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Don’t forget the overflowing hospitals.

 

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1 hour ago, rumak said:

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OK... can we assume you prefer socialized medical insurance to the current parasitic health insurance industry?

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1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yes, that's what the Vax-pushers want you to believe.

Can you post some links to support your statement 

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On 12/17/2024 at 1:46 PM, NoDisplayName said:

You're getting your vaccine science from a chiropractor?

 

Where else?

 

Only brainwashed idiots and servile suckers go to virologists and epidemiologists.

 

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10 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The long term side effects are the COVID itself, not the vaccine.

 

As with disproportionate ICU admissions, the evidence is that side effects such as chronic fatigue and memory loss are more prevalent in those people who were unvaccinated when they had COVID, than those who were.

 

I am no medical professional.  I think an unbiased study to put this issue to bed is a good use of funds.  This way if it turns out the vaccines are not the culprit for claimed side effects people will be more trusting of a new vaccine.  As it stands there is a large cadre of people convinced that the vaccines caused more harm than the virus. 

 

And of course it's possible no study will convince that group. Whatever.  And it isn't just gomers from the hills believing this stuff.  I spoke with a nurse practitioner who asked me if I had gotten the latest booster during a checkup.  She asked if I had flu shot etc and then covid came up.  I think this was in 2023.  I already had the first jab and booster and one later in 2021 and 2022.  Both mandatory if I wanted to fly to Thailand. At this point no one was requiring the newest booster and I was leery.  I told her that and she admitted she was not going to get the latest jab.  So, both sides have professional people holding opinions. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Lies?

 

What lies?

 

Anything that makes Dear Leader look strong MUST be true.

 

Truth is all about retribution against your enemies and rounding up legal immigrants like animals.

 

By making the life of Billionaires better it will magically make YOUR life better*

 

*[NEEDS CITATIONS] 😂

 

 

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On 12/17/2024 at 10:10 AM, impulse said:

 

It'll be years before we know.  That's why they call them "long term side effects".  But if you believe some of the early studies coming out that indicate one death per 800 shots, and extrapolate that over the billions of shots, it may be millions. 

 

I'm looking forward to RFK Jr, Musk and his AI skills, and DOGE to look at all the data, with no holds barred.

 

Where can you read all this nonsense? Go to reliable studies, not written over night by some conspiracy people with an Alu-hat.😱

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On 12/17/2024 at 2:28 PM, Red Phoenix said:

But even now with the overwhelming and daily further growing evidence of the harms caused by his Operation Warp Speed that launched these toxic mRNA Covid-shots, Trump is STILL boasting about its huge success and that it saved 'millions of lives'.  But it's the complete opposite with millions of people dead from these '100% safe and effective' shots and billions harmed by them.  Trumps childish and narcissistic inability to ever admit having being wrong on anything prevents the full exposure of  this Crime of the Century.

Up to individuals if they believed the BS and had an unproven so called vaccine injected into themselves.

If anyone had it because Trump said to they were ( are ) stupid. Everyone has a brain, but seems many don't use it except to look at a phone and think "social media" tells the truth.

 

BTW I don't recall any liberals or Democrats warning not to have it, and I've seen posters on here saying that Biden was the one responsible for it

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3 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

 

.  Both mandatory if I wanted to fly to Thailand. At this point no one was requiring the newest booster and I was leery.  I told her that and she admitted she was not going to get the latest jab.  So, both sides have professional people holding opinions. 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure that's correct, Vaccinations was not mandatory to fly to Thailand. A pre-travel test and documentation was required along with quarantine. I flew in a total of 6 times during the covid situation

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On 12/17/2024 at 10:46 AM, Red Phoenix said:

Those of us that follow independent sources already know for years the devastating effects of these Wonder-Jabs. 

It suffices to compare the trends of excess-deaths between light and heavily vaxxed countries, and it is even more tell-tale when looking at the evolution of excess-deaths in the lower-age categories, where deaths of young and middle-age people have exploded since the roll-out of these mRNA-jabs.  Of course you couldn't find these analyses on the mainstream-media or buried deep in Public Health reports, as the truth is damning for Pfizer/Moderna, the 'Public Health' authorities, the politicians that supported the roll-out, and the complicit media.  They hoped that the jab-effects would go away (like Covid did), and that we could all 'move on' but unfortunately the harm is irreversible and phenomena like the current explosion of turbo-cancers and cardio-vascular diseases are just a forebode of what is still to come...

You are blaming vaccines for increasing cancers and CVD? What a piece of work and that’s not the content

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23 hours ago, Dan O said:

Yes and they will always continue no matter how much valid information is available. Its really tragic because some of the decisions that people need to make surrounding any medical application is hard enough with valid info and if you throw is the bs it becomes unmanageable for many to make a good decision 

 

23 hours ago, Dan O said:

Agree, but conspiracy groups are still alive.

 

Agree with what's been said above, but what I truly can't understand is how people are so naive as to believe these conspiracy theories and the charlatans who promote them.

 

Measles, for example, is something that I and people of my age were vaccinated against when we were kids and now it's reared it's ugly head again, this especially as it can kill children, and RFK Jr has suggested that the measles vaccine itself may have caused the measles outbreak in Samoa which saw more than 5700 infected and 83 die (many of them young children) stoking vaccine scepticism which doesn't bode well for the future for this island nation.

 

Are the people who believe this conspiracy theory nonsense devoid of working grey matter? And if you want a perfect example, then I refer to the "Sandy Hook Massacre" lie which was spread by Alex Jones, when he said that it was a government set up and that no children were killed, which resulted in people visiting the homes of the parents of the deceased children, knocking on their doors and demanding to see the children, which of course was impossible because they were dead. Just how dim/stupid/gullible can some people get?

 

Now the whole vaccination subject is being brought to the fore again and the nut job RFK Jr will stoke up the anti-VAX rhetoric and will no doubt find a few supporters on AN who wish to believe this idiot, when the very people whom we have selected, trusted, trained, tested and provided with the knowledge and tools to study and improve medicine in order to treat humankind, are being ignored.

 

For the record I have had three Covid shots and although I did get a fairly mild case, it was over and done with in a matter of days. In addition I and probably many others on here, will have had countless vaccinations against measles, mumps, rubella, polio, yellow fever, cholera and countless tetanus jabs over the years (including one of immuno globulin before leaving to work in Africa) and have lived to tell the tale– – I'm just so thankful that there were not any anti-VAX twerps around years ago when I had my jabs.

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