Do you think Air Travel is safe these days?

[BarBoy]

It seems we are seeing more and more plane crashes resulting in fatalities these days, and with the rise of low cost airlines and Boeing out on strike every other week it was always bound to get worse. With an industry that seems to increasingly favor profit levels over safety, I personally think a big shift in attitudes is needed if the airlines want to win back the public's trust.

 

So, do you think Air Travel is still safe?

 

Statistically speaking I would say yes, of course, no questions asked, air travel is still by far the safest mode of transportation in the world. However, whenever I step on a plane these days it is always with an added layer of trepidation, and every bump is always felt with a little more anxiety than usual...

 

I don't trust budget airlines as far as I can throw them, but that wont stop me getting on a plane just yet.

[Ralf001]

yes.

[IvorBiggun2]

• Motorcycles

  Motorcyclists have the highest rate of injuries and deaths per 100 million miles traveled, more than six times higher than any other mode of transportation. 

[BarBoy]

Just now, IvorBiggun2 said:

• Motorcycles

  Motorcyclists have the highest rate of injuries and deaths per 100 million miles traveled, more than six times higher than any other mode of transportation. 

Yes.

 

I agree.

[ChumpChange]

bob, you've turned into the hub of polls and paranoia. Lighten up. Have a drink and celebrate that you've survived another year. It's New Year's FFS.

[BarBoy]

1 minute ago, ChumpChange said:

bob, you've turned into the hub of polls and paranoia. Lighten up. Have a drink and celebrate that you've survived another year. It's New Year's FFS.

Yeah, and by the looks of it 179 people have just died.

 

No HNY for them, eh?

[ChumpChange]

Just now, BarBoy said:

Yeah, and by the looks of it 179 people have just died.

 

No HNY for them, eh?

And 385,000 more people are born every day. As I said, lighten up, mate. Just be thankful that it's not your time.

[transam]

The number of Commercial flights in 2023 was 35,300,000...

The number of Commercial flight crashes in 2023 was 30...

 

So on the whole, I would say they are safe, and the safest way to travel...😋

[novacova]

50 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

So, do you think Air Travel is still safe?

What do you think?

51 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

Statistically speaking I would say yes, of course, no questions asked, air travel is still by far the safest mode of transportation in the world.

Okay!

[ChumpChange]

Just now, novacova said:

What do you think?

Okay!

bob seems to like to talk to himself and answer his own questions. A bit manic like GG in that way. 

[Chivas]

I'll be guarded in my response but after my flight on Thai back to London on 26th December I will never be flying them again

[Chris Daley]

I'm scared of the pigs.  But the flight is not a problem.

[richard_smith237]

Air-travel is as safe as rail travel...  and both are the safest form of transport - though I very much would not want to take a train from Thailand to the UK. 

 

IF you (bob) have thought about this, what are your thoughts when you get in a car when car travel is 62x more dangerous than air travel ???

 

 

Global Fatality Rate (per 100 million passenger-kilometers)

- Air Travel: ~0.05 (safe globally)

- Buses: ~0.07 (EU data) 

- Rail Travel: ~0.04 (EU data)

- Cars: ~3.1 globally (varies by region)

- Motorcycles: ~108.9 globally (varies significantly)

[RSD1]

Looks like Bob really overstepped himself on this latest drunken and fearful brain fart of his.
 

The data on commercial flight safety quickly reveals that there is no basis at all for any of his usual fear mongering.

 

Alas, another one of his rubbish topics that everybody should just abandon immediately.  

[richard_smith237]

One facet to all of this.. 

 

The survivors on the Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 were in the tail of the aircraft.

 

Test-Crashes have shown that...

Front of the Plane: Passengers in the front of the plane typically experience the highest G-forces during a crash. Studies showed that forces can range from 12 G to over 50 G, depending on the crash's severity.

 

Middle of the Plane: Forces tend to decrease slightly in the middle of the plane, with typical G-forces ranging from 6 G to 20 G.

 

Back of the Plane: Passengers in the rear often experience the lowest G-forces because of the cushioning effect of the fuselage's collapse. Forces here may range from 4 G to 12 G in controlled crash scenarios.

 

 

So... Why is Business and First Class not at the back of the Plane if it is the safer area ????

(Years ago was on a domestic flight in Kazakhstan - business was at the back of the plane).

 

Answer of course, is that the risk of an accident is so low it is considered insignificant when balanced against convenience for boarding and deplaning and cabin noise.

 

[Phillip9]

17 minutes ago, BarBoy said:

Yeah, and by the looks of it 179 people have just died.

 

No HNY for them, eh?

 

And more than 3,000 will die today (and every day) in automobile accidents world wide.  Better spend your time worrying about traffic accidents instead of plane crashes, especially in Thailand.

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, RSD1 said:

Looks like Bob really overstepped himself on this latest drunken and fearful brain fart of his.
 

The data on commercial flight safety quickly reveals that there is no basis at all for any of his usual fear mongering.

 

Alas, another one of his rubbish topics that everybody should just abandon immediately.  

 

We get it... You don't like Barboy, who I agree is very likely Bob Smith... 

 

... but, you are showing an unhealthy interest and trolling his threads more than he trolls the rest of us with his threads and polls. 

 

If you don't like the guy, just block him then you won't see his content...  Instead I have to block you because of all the rubbish you keep posting in his threads.

 

Just because the author of the thread is Barboy (bob) - its does not automatically mean the thread is trolling, wasteful or not worthy of discussion... Plenty of his threads are, but not all, and thus can be considered in individual merit.

 

 

[cdnvic]

Airline fatalities are around 10% of what they were in the 90s.

 

https://asn.flightsafety.org/statistics/period/stats.php

 

Compared to the 70s, fatalities are almost non-existent.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/aviation-fatalities-per-million-passengers

[BarBoy]

8 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

Alas, another one of his rubbish topics that everybody should just abandon immediately.

I think R2D2 has got the hots for me lads!!

[BarBoy]

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

One facet to all of this.. 

 

The survivors on the Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 were in the tail of the aircraft.

 

Test-Crashes have shown that...

Front of the Plane: Passengers in the front of the plane typically experience the highest G-forces during a crash. Studies showed that forces can range from 12 G to over 50 G, depending on the crash's severity.

 

Middle of the Plane: Forces tend to decrease slightly in the middle of the plane, with typical G-forces ranging from 6 G to 20 G.

 

Back of the Plane: Passengers in the rear often experience the lowest G-forces because of the cushioning effect of the fuselage's collapse. Forces here may range from 4 G to 12 G in controlled crash scenarios.

 

 

So... Why is Business and First Class not at the back of the Plane if it is the safer area ????

(Years ago was on a domestic flight in Kazakhstan - business was at the back of the plane).

 

Answer of course, is that the risk of an accident is so low it is considered insignificant when balanced against convenience for boarding and deplaning and cabin noise.

 

There are a few on here who claim to despise me, yet comment on each and every thread of mine.

 

Quite surreal, isn't it?

[Ben Zioner]

I don't "think". I get facts .

 

 

 

[RSD1]

39 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Instead I have to block you because of all the rubbish you keep posting in his threads.

Talk about somebody who likes to post rubbish. Most of your posts are these giant walls of blabbering, long-wind text that I never read and just scroll right by. As soon as I see your name at the top of a post I put my scroll button on auto-pilot. It's more than obvious you are obsessed with hearing yourself talk and that's why you don't get to the point quickly. Funny that you would ever be critical of anybody else's posts on AN. Actually, not surprising. It's normally the biggest self-important narcissists who can never view their own self-absorbed actions even slightly objectively.

[PJ71]

34 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Air-travel is as safe as rail travel...  and both are the safest form of transport - though I very much would not want to take a train from Thailand to the UK. 

 

IF you (bob) have thought about this, what are your thoughts when you get in a car when car travel is 62x more dangerous than air travel ???

 

 

Global Fatality Rate (per 100 million passenger-kilometers)

- Air Travel: ~0.05 (safe globally)

- Buses: ~0.07 (EU data) 

- Rail Travel: ~0.04 (EU data)

- Cars: ~3.1 globally (varies by region)

- Motorcycles: ~108.9 globally (varies significantly)

Thanks Richard.

 

Let me review this data and get back to you.

[bkk6060]

34 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

... Why is Business and First Class not at the back of the Plane if it is the safer area ????

Because it is more important for them to get off the plane first.

[richard_smith237]

Just now, bkk6060 said:

35 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

... Why is Business and First Class not at the back of the Plane if it is the safer area ????

Because it is more important for them to get off the plane first.

 

The question was rhetorical with the objective of highliting the safety of air-travel. 

 

If the risk of air-travel was not so 'insignificant' then the higher paying passengers would be placed in the safest area of the air-craft - but that measure is not taken because comfort and convenience by far outweighs the almost Infinitesimally small risk. 

[3NUMBAS]

EasyJet flies all over Europe every day ,I don’t see them as dangerous ,flights are always on time ,post Covid

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, transam said:

The number of Commercial flights in 2023 was 35,300,000...

The number of Commercial flight crashes in 2023 was 30...

 

So on the whole, I would say they are safe, and the safest way to travel...😋

 

any stats for 2024 ?

 

[GammaGlobulin]

Yes.  Safe.

Very Safe!

 

However, this definitely does not mean that air travel is good.

 

[khunJam]

2 hours ago, BarBoy said:

So, do you think Air Travel is still safe?

Not for those who are afraid of flying 

[scottiejohn]

Just now, khunJam said:

Not for those who are afraid of flying 

It is still safe to fly whether you are afraid of it or not!