Thailand as a Future Destination for Relocation

[kevozman1]

Whilst I do like Thailand and have done for years, I have to sit back and weigh things up as I have approached middle age, and I am ready to settle down.

 

It seems the obvious red light activity and full moon party degeneracy is not going anywhere but yet nationalism is just as high as ever in Thailand after decades of this crap being in their faces and I think the social engineers may try and blame tourists for any woes in the nation here on out, despite an obvious and easy move would be to crack down on degeneracy, or just embrace it. Not to mention I have seen what happens amongst the locals and yeah the tourists stuff is very docile in comparison. Thailand is definitely not Norway or Switzerland.

 

Personally I don't have to put up with this. A lot of Westerners in Thailand will be moving to other SEA countries (not the Philippines, that place is a post apocalyptic hellhole), and with regret because overall many of us like Thailand and Thai people. It's a shame.

[Hummin]

38 minutes ago, kevozman1 said:

Whilst I do like Thailand and have done for years, I have to sit back and weigh things up as I have approached middle age, and I am ready to settle down.

 

It seems the obvious red light activity and full moon party degeneracy is not going anywhere but yet nationalism is just as high as ever in Thailand after decades of this crap being in their faces and I think the social engineers may try and blame tourists for any woes in the nation here on out, despite an obvious and easy move would be to crack down on degeneracy, or just embrace it. Not to mention I have seen what happens amongst the locals and yeah the tourists stuff is very docile in comparison. Thailand is definitely not Norway or Switzerland.

 

Personally I don't have to put up with this. A lot of Westerners in Thailand will be moving to other SEA countries (not the Philippines, that place is a post apocalyptic hellhole), and with regret because overall many of us like Thailand and Thai people. It's a shame.

 

I truly think the golden age in Asia is up, especially for us who can expect to live another 30+ years. 

 

We do have a base in Thailand, but I have moved back to Norway, and my wife will follow next year, and build our next home, and both will start working. I actually miss working after being semi-retired, and the potential for both living quality and also a healthy lifestyle is much better in Norway. 

 

I actually got bored after travelling all over Thailand several times by motorbikes, car and also in my earlier days by public transport. Have tried to settle with a small farm, and that would be perfect for me, if it was not for the extreme heat last year and pollution that finally broke my wibe. 

 

We have been travelling most of the time, and will head down south next week again, but to be true I'm tired of constantly having to travel to kill my boredom, or escaping the smoke from burning fields and forests. I do not expect the pollution to change in the near future, that's why I make my move now, and not later when it is maybe too late. 

 

So for the younger ones who dream about Asia, sorry, but it is decades to late. 

[impulse]

56 minutes ago, Hummin said:

So for the younger ones who dream about Asia, sorry, but it is decades to late. 

 

I disagree.  Thailand has changed, for sure.  But so has "back home". 

 

The correct comparison isn't Thailand 2025 vs Thailand 1980.  The best comparison is Thailand 2025 vs Back Home 2025.

 

When I returned in 2019 to the USA after 20 years in Asia (10 of those in Thailand), it was not the same place I left.  I'm staying in China now for personal reasons (sick GF), but I plan to retire to Thailand.  I love it here.  (I'm in BKK for my monthly visa run). 

 

But I'd also be remiss not to check out Mexico, just because it's a 2 hour flight to see the family and get Medicare, not a 30 hour travesty from LOS.  That's the only downside to Thailand, especially with "pre-existing conditions" that make health insurance so expensive at my age.

 

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

I disagree.  Thailand has changed, for sure.  But so has "back home". 

 

The correct comparison isn't Thailand 2025 vs Thailand 1980.  The best comparison is Thailand 2025 vs Back Home 2025.

 

When I returned in 2019 to the USA after 20 years in Asia (10 of those in Thailand), it was not the same place I left.  I'm staying in China now for personal reasons (sick GF), but I plan to retire to Thailand.  I love it here.  (I'm in BKK for my monthly visa run). 

 

But I'd also be remiss not to check out Mexico, just because it's a 2 hour flight to see the family and get Medicare, not a 30 hour travesty from LOS.  That's the only downside to Thailand, especially with "pre-existing conditions" that make health insurance so expensive at my age.

 

Back home is agreeable a wide wide term, soI understand your point. 

 

Coming from a healthy environment and a country I still love and adore, my choice is colored by my personal opinion and background as well age. I feel I have many more years in me to work, and also hunt, fish, pick food, as well live a bit more sustainable life than I manage to do here in Thailand.

 

Chopp wood, make fire, and experience the dark cold winters under the stars and northern lights, is priceless 

 

Just eat cold water fish, crabs, lobsters, rain deer, year around

 

There is so much to do, compared to becoming stuck in Thailand where the political landscape will change, Asian countries will expand and everything will become more expensive, and we are the white guys who more and more Asians starts to despise. Sad but true

 

Asians are Not so different from us, when it comes to colours and who is living in the neighborhood. 

 

I believe China will be a great influence on Thailand, and what about us then? Reminding you of how the trade war will escalate, and Thailand is treated by the west as not trustworthy for our high tech weapons they obviously wants to buy.

 

I gamble on my own heritage, but still keep our home in Thailand. 

[Thingamabob]

4 hours ago, kevozman1 said:

Whilst I do like Thailand and have done for years, I have to sit back and weigh things up as I have approached middle age, and I am ready to settle down.

 

It seems the obvious red light activity and full moon party degeneracy is not going anywhere but yet nationalism is just as high as ever in Thailand after decades of this crap being in their faces and I think the social engineers may try and blame tourists for any woes in the nation here on out, despite an obvious and easy move would be to crack down on degeneracy, or just embrace it. Not to mention I have seen what happens amongst the locals and yeah the tourists stuff is very docile in comparison. Thailand is definitely not Norway or Switzerland.

 

Personally I don't have to put up with this. A lot of Westerners in Thailand will be moving to other SEA countries (not the Philippines, that place is a post apocalyptic hellhole), and with regret because overall many of us like Thailand and Thai people. It's a shame.

Been retired in Thailand  since 1993 having previously lived and worked in Europe, the Middle East, East Asia and Africa. No country is perfect, but Thailand is as good as it gets as far as I am concerned, and I've no intention to ever leave. You, however, sound somewhat puritanical so I doubt anywhere in Asia will suit you. 

 

[GypsyT]

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

Chopp wood, make fire, and experience the dark cold winters under the stars and northern lights, is priceless 

How about your Thai wife?

 

To put her through that is against Geneva Conventions;

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-against-torture-and-other-cruel-inhuman-or-degrading

Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment

 

 

 

 

[Hummin]

19 minutes ago, GypsyT said:

How about your Thai wife?

 

To put her through that is against Geneva Conventions;

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-against-torture-and-other-cruel-inhuman-or-degrading

Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment

 

 

 

 

I can promise you, she is the biggest driver to move north after we have travelled both in the winter with Hurtigruta, (cruise ferry) up to Tromsø, and drive down again + round trip with car last summer. Fresh fish, berries, mushrooms, wild meat is something she enjoy.  So far been there on tourist visa 6×3 months year around in Norway total. She love Norway and the potential.

 

Do you know how many thais there is who work at Svalbard? 

 

https://www.proquest.com/docview/197470266?sourcetype=Scholarly Journals

[GypsyT]

Thailand is good and incredible cheap compared to Spain's Canary Islands where I spent winters before returning to LOS.

Same level hotels; Gran Canary 130 Euros/140 USD night. Lousy breakfast.

Here, $ 30 a night. With  great breakfast!

 

But the weather is good for me only between Oct - March. In Canary Islands year around.

[GypsyT]

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I can promise you,she is the biggest driver to move north

Great! Go for it.

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, GypsyT said:

Great! Go for it.

We both sees it as a temporary project, so it is not for rest of my life. Things can change, and we keep a plan b and c.