Nazism is back

[CallumWK]

8 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

he gives not one but two nazi salutes

 

Fail.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute

 

 

[RuamRudy]

7 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I see a lot of doubt here.  In fact, it seems like the story is made up.  You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

It's a shame that people are allowed to post straight up propaganda lies on AN.

 

Why does it seem made up? You are clearly unsure about it's provenance yet you are bold enough to call it "straight up propaganda lies".

 

So do you know or not? 

[RuamRudy]

6 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Fail.

 

 

 

 

"Fail"? Did you intend to log onto Facebook? 

 

This is from your own link, did you even read it? 

 

The Roman salute is a gesture in which the right arm is fully extended, facing forward, with palm down and fingers touching. In some versions, the arm is raised upward at an angle; in others, it is held out parallel to the ground. In contemporary times, the former is commonly considered a symbol of fascism.

 

(highlighting in bold is mine). 

[Bkk Brian]

30 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

If he said 'free Palestine' you would brand him an anti semite before he has stepped off the podium, but he gives not one but two nazi salutes and you rush to his defence. Some things are beyond parody.

He would love Palastine free of Hamas actually but your post is just a poor diversion  attempt of the false claims of the OP

[soalbundy]

19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's not so ridiculous when you see which GERMAN party Musk is actively trying to help gain power in GERMANY.

The AfD is a result of the massive immigration to Germany, more than in the UK, people are fed up but the traditional parties aren't listening, (it's an EU problem). Take away the immigration problem and the AfD would collapse. I lived in Germany for almost 40 years and can say that the experience of the Hitler regime has left deep emotional scars of shame, even among the youth who had no part in it, unlike in Japan, the war crimes and the holocaust are taught and dissected in schools and in the media to the point that I as an Englishman said, "hey! enough is enough." Despite Musk Germany is the last place that Nazism would raise its ugly head, even patriotism is viewed with suspicion.

[BangkokReady]

15 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Why does it seem made up?

 

Because there's a video and it shows that Musk wasn't making a Nazi salute, so the author of the story has chosen a freezeframe that he obviously thinks looks the most like a Nazi salute, so that he can lie about it.

 

As I said, shameful, but, sadly, not that uncommon.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

The AfD is a result of the massive immigration to Germany, more than in the UK, people are fed up but the traditional parties aren't listening, (it's an EU problem). Take away the immigration problem and the AfD would collapse. I lived in Germany for almost 40 years and can say that the experience of the Hitler regime has left deep emotional scars of shame, even among the youth who had no part in it, unlike in Japan, the war crimes and the holocaust are taught and dissected in schools and in the media to the point that I as an Englishman said, "hey! enough is enough." Despite Musk Germany is the last place that Nazism would raise its ugly head.

Clearly the USA isn't the last place it would. 

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

It can be said without a doubt nazism is back.

 

https://www.wired.com/story/neo-nazis-love-elon-musk-nazi-like-salutes-trumps-inauguration/

 

So yes, the golden age for the USA has started if you like Nazis.

Jeez, you are so deranged by trump that all rational thinkng has left your head. Take a break from the activist loonatic toxic media you follow, go for a swin in the sea or hike to a viewpoint and breathe in some fresh air... you certainly need it, see if JT will go with you, God knows he needs some fresh air too

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Now to the context.................that shows your false claims

 

 

Desperate .com

[RuamRudy]

26 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Because there's a video and it shows that Musk wasn't making a Nazi salute, so the author of the story has chosen a freezeframe that he obviously thinks looks the most like a Nazi salute, so that he can lie about it.

 

As I said, shameful, but, sadly, not that uncommon.

What's truly shameful are all the appeasers on here, making excuses for him. 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, RuamRudy said:

What's truly shameful are all the appeasers on here, making excuses for him. 

Are theses Jews appeasers?

 

The Anti-Defamation League, an organization dedicated to fighting anti-Semitism, weighed in via X with a note of caution, asserting that Musk’s move appeared to be “an awkward gesture but not a Nazi salute.”

https://variety.com/2025/biz/news/elon-musk-controversy-hand-gesture-trump-inauguration-1236279573/

 

 

[soalbundy]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Clearly the USA isn't the last place it would. 

I don't know, Nazism arose from deep poverty, excessive restoration payments and deep national humiliation after WW1. I don't think Trump or Musk can deliver in the same way Hitler did shortly after gaining power which turned the financial well being and psyche of the nation around 180 degrees. Trump is a last gasp of a failing empire, the world has changed but Trump refuses to accept it even though reality constantly raises its head. Musk is in it for the money and prestige (as if he didn't have enough), I don't see him having any ideology, good or bad....it's all about Musk.

 

Americans are often viewed as naive with a limited view of the outside world, I think it's fair to say that the average American can't match the sophistication of European citizens and are easily led but they are a fair people and apart from the red necks they are an empathetic and tolerant people. The coming months and years will be harsh and people will voice their anger and dissatisfaction fueled by Trumps lies but although lies run halfway around the world before truth has got its boots on, truth eventually catches up.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

I don't know, Nazism arose from deep poverty, excessive restoration payments and deep national humiliation after WW1. I don't think Trump or Musk can deliver in the same way Hitler did shortly after gaining power which turned the financial well being and psyche of the nation around 180 degrees. Trump is a last gasp of a failing empire, the world has changed but Trump refuses to accept it even though reality constantly raises its head. Musk is in it for the money and prestige (as if he didn't have enough), I don't see him having any ideology, good or bad....it's all about Musk.

 

Americans are often viewed as naive with a limited view of the outside world, I think it's fair to say that the average American can't match the sophistication of European citizens and are easily led but they are a fair people and apart from the red necks they are an empathetic and tolerant people. The coming months and years will be harsh and people will voice their anger and dissatisfaction fueled by Trumps lies but although lies run halfway around the world before truth has got its boots on, truth eventually catches up.

To be clear. I don't mean literal Nazism.

I mean fascism. We're there already.

As far as Musk's bizarre gestures, I have become aware that Nazis do read that for what it looks like.

[soalbundy]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

To be clear. I don't mean literal Nazism.

I mean fascism. We're there already.

As far as Musk's bizarre gestures, I have become aware that Nazis do read that for what it looks like.

Yes fascism is possible, not just in America, when times are hard people look to strong leaders, it always ends badly but most people want simple solutions and are ready to believe lies. Nothing is forever, Germany, Japan, Italy, all rose from the ashes of such ideologies and their examples will serve to make sure it will never be as bad as that again. Certainly injustice will occur but eventually the human spirit will demand freedom from oppression.

[Hanaguma]

24 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

To be clear. I don't mean literal Nazism.

I mean fascism. We're there already.

As far as Musk's bizarre gestures, I have become aware that Nazis do read that for what it looks like.

No, you are not there already.

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Would Joe Biden share a limo ride with a fascist? Shake his hand as he assumes power? Greet him at the door of the White House by saying "welcome home"?  Your derangement is showing, and it ain't pretty. 

 

Face the simple fact that all the overheated rhetoric from the Democrats over the spectre of fascism should Trump win was all BS.  It was an election, Trump won clearly, and the Democrats are being gracious in handing over power peacefully. It is a sign of the strength of the American system.

[Jingthing]

Just now, Hanaguma said:

No, you are not there already.

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Would Joe Biden share a limo ride with a fascist? Shake his hand as he assumes power? Greet him at the door of the White House by saying "welcome home"?  Your derangement is showing, and it ain't pretty. 

 

Face the simple fact that all the overheated rhetoric from the Democrats over the spectre of fascism should Trump win was all BS.  It was an election, Trump won clearly, and the Democrats are being gracious in handing over power peacefully. It is a sign of the strength of the American system.

That's a stupid argument 

Fascists often come to power via a democratic election. 

Proves nothing that Biden participated in the peaceful transition of power.

[connda]

5 hours ago, stevenl said:

It can be said without a doubt nazism is back.

 

https://www.wired.com/story/neo-nazis-love-elon-musk-nazi-like-salutes-trumps-inauguration/

 

So yes, the golden age for the USA has started if you like Nazis.

According to the Left everyone on the right are Nazis ushering in the Fourth Reich.
According to the Right everyone on the left are Marxists ushering in a new age of Communism.

Those  who expound either view are a small minority, each whom actually are more interested in spewing hatred and inciting social discord. 

Ok Op. Nazism is back. 

Let me dust off my best The 6th Sense impression:
"I see Nazis. They're everywhere.  Most of them don't even know they are Nazis!"

 

Now enough of the nonsense.  Back to reality.  Most on the right are not Nazis (except those who claim to be Nazis), and most on the left are not Commies (except those who claim to be Commies). 

[Hanaguma]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

That's a stupid argument 

Fascists often come to power via a democratic election. 

Proves nothing that Biden participated in the peaceful transition of power.

It proves that Biden doesn't believe what you are peddling. Nobody in the heirarchy of the Democratic party believes it. It was all electioneering nonsense, and has been exposed as such. 

[connda]

2 hours ago, blaze master said:

One particular poster has raged back onto the forums after playing hide and seek. It's quite funny watching him froth.

 

It's actually rather pitiful and pathetic.

[connda]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I see a lot of doubt here.  In fact, it seems like the story is made up.  You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

It's a shame that people are allowed to post straight up propaganda lies on AN.

Nah.  I don't want to see anyone censored.  I want to know what everyone is thinking.  I in many cases will not agree, but it's good to hear the Ops.

[illisdean]

lol...rock on with your feeble desperation melt-down.

 

 

[RuamRudy]

48 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Are theses Jews appeasers?

 

The Anti-Defamation League, an organization dedicated to fighting anti-Semitism, weighed in via X with a note of caution, asserting that Musk’s move appeared to be “an awkward gesture but not a Nazi salute.”

https://variety.com/2025/biz/news/elon-musk-controversy-hand-gesture-trump-inauguration-1236279573/

 

 

 

Does musk like Jews now?

 

 

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

It proves that Biden doesn't believe what you are peddling. Nobody in the heirarchy of the Democratic party believes it. It was all electioneering nonsense, and has been exposed as such. 

Wrong.

It proves nothing of the kind 

Replace authoritarian strong man if that helps you understand. 

[JimHuaHin]

Yes, neo-Nazi USA.

 

But just wait until Trump begins his Stalinist-style purges.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Does musk like Jews now?

 

 

Who claimed he never like Jews?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nWwzR-I0iw

 

[Hanaguma]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Wrong.

It proves nothing of the kind 

Replace authoritarian strong man if that helps you understand. 

Don't worry. Soon your rage will turn to simmering grievance, and finallly to hopelessness, and last of all resigation. Just give it some time.  And four years from now when another President takes power, you can finally breathe again. 

[RuamRudy]

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Who claimed he never like Jews?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nWwzR-I0iw

 

 

Well his tweet does suggest that he believes that "Jewish communties have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them."

That is not really the thing you say about your friends.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Well his tweet does suggest that he believes that "Jewish communties have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them."

That is not really the thing you say about your friends.

Well considering two thirds of his friends are Jews and he claims to be Jewish by association I very much doubt he does not like them.

 

Elon Musk says he's 'Jewish by association'

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/elon-musk-says-jewish-association-auschwitz-visit-sees-almost-no-antis-rcna135271

[1FinickyOne]

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Now to the context.................that shows your false claims

 

 

So, they had Nazis in Rome? How far back?

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, 1FinickyOne said:

So, they had Nazis in Rome? How far back?

About as far back as your comprehension of the video if you had watched it.